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Steele and the defense letting down in big games

Posted on 11/17/19 at 7:55 am
Posted by makersmark1
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 7:55 am
Gave up 23 to LSU, 24 to Florida, 21 to UGA.

Even an offensive genius making over 6 million a year cannot be expected to overcome such poor defensive performances.

If Steele does not buckle up that D, Gus may not get an extension in spite of ringing up multiple TDs in big games.
Posted by Ross
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 7:56 am to


Upvote.


On a serious note how realistic is it to keep our defensive staff in tact once Gus is kicked to the curb?
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 7:57 am to
Gus should give Steele the proverbial pink slip for well, making him look bad.
Posted by makersmark1
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 7:59 am to
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On a serious note how realistic is it to keep our defensive staff in tact once Gus is kicked to the curb


It will be up to the new coach.

As it should be.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
11433 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 8:05 am to
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It will be up to the new coach.

As it should be.


It's rare that a new coach keeps a staff in place. If and when Gus is fired, we are probably losing the good coaches that we have on defense. Leith and Jacobs put us in a very bad predicament with Gus' contract extension.

Hopefully, a new HC will keep the key components of the defense staff. Steele, Garner, and TWill. I fear that Steele will end up back across the state.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
18311 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 8:08 am to
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how realistic


It’s rare and unrealistic.

New head coaches want the entire program to be built around their vision and leadership. Retaining anyone from the old staff will keep the previous program lingering around. It’s a risk because the new staff will at first be mostly disliked by the players recruited by Gus.

A few eye rolls or even the slightest bad comments from anyone on Steele’s crew could sow dissension in the locker room toward the new coach. Further, the new coach may have a strategy that doesn’t align with how Steele coaches defense.

Coaches don’t want to risk any of that when they only have 3-4 years to prove themselves.
Posted by plazadweller
South Georgia
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 8:12 am to
Aren’t they technically still employed by the AD? That goes without saying the incoming coach would want to choose his own staff, but if what’s in place is working why touch it. What LSU basically did is just get rid of Les Miles while trying to keep the same components in place. Les was the problem because he never let the offense open up. He was still stuck in the 3 yards & cloud of dust mentality.
Posted by autodd03
Clown world
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 8:33 am to
We should just promote steele and ride it out
Posted by plazadweller
South Georgia
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 8:36 am to
Kevin probably doesn’t want the responsibility.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 8:38 am to
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We should just promote steele and ride it out


I'm not entirely against that idea. Him and Garner are the most experienced coaches on this staff. He knows the players and what he has to work with next year. If he works out, a la Dabo or Coach O, great. If not, we are still in a better situation than we are now with Gus in charge.
Posted by autodd03
Clown world
Member since Dec 2013
2532 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 8:41 am to
Let's face it. We aren't in a position to buyout gus and then pay the money it will take to bring in the next guy too.
Posted by Smoke7024
Member since Jun 2010
22643 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 8:42 am to
I wish Gus would just hire a real OC and turn everything over to that person. I don’t think he’s terrible at running the overall program. Players stay out of trouble. Team is pretty disciplined. We don’t have any distractions other than a piss poor offense.
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 8:50 am to
Already tried that with Lindsay.
Posted by Smoke7024
Member since Jun 2010
22643 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 8:56 am to
No, not someone to run his offense or concepts of it. A completely new guy that isn’t tied to him at all. Similar to what LSU did.

Because like it or not, Gus isn’t getting canned anytime soon.
This post was edited on 11/17/19 at 8:57 am
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
10923 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 9:01 am to
So shite doesn't still run down hill?
This post was edited on 11/17/19 at 9:02 am
Posted by Smoke7024
Member since Jun 2010
22643 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 9:05 am to
If you think we’ll actually fire Gus then fine. I don’t believe it’s going to happen and think that may be the the way to make the best out of the situation that Leath put us in.
Posted by Tigerman97
Member since Jun 2014
10354 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 9:06 am to
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On a serious note how realistic is it to keep our defensive staff in tact once Gus is kicked to the curb?



IMO it will take an old boy network hire which doesn't seem like the best decision. I could see a coach with ties to Steele wanting to keep him around, but I can't see making it a condition on hiring the new coach. IMO we'd be better off letting Steele run the team the rest of this season and give TWILL a chance to run the D.
Posted by AUveritas
Member since Aug 2013
2917 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 9:18 am to
He's 9-36 as a HC. We'd be better off sticking with Gus.
Posted by AUtigR24
Happy Hour
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 9:33 am to
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Already tried that with Lindsay.


He didn't turn shite over to LIndsey. Lindsey has killed it at every stop. He didn't suddenly get stupid at Auburn.
Posted by Smoke7024
Member since Jun 2010
22643 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 9:36 am to
Exactly, that was Gus’ offense. No one needs to kid themselves and act like ever turned anything over to an OC completely.
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