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Posted on 6/29/21 at 4:44 pm to makersmark1
Posted on 6/29/21 at 4:44 pm to makersmark1
quote:If the university offers it and gives the player a cut once the cost of the jersey is covered. The problem that will happen if the player in say a commercial is wearing the university gear etc...then it also like the university is recommending that product etc...that becomes the problem...if it is just the player without university gear swag whatever...then fine but if using the university then the university should get a cut of that deal...goes both ways...
Or even offer autographed merchandise including game worn jerseys from key players.
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Posted on 6/29/21 at 5:20 pm to CorchJay
I'm not smart enough to consider all the ramifications that are in store, but I'm fairly certain that it won't work like everyone wants. This, coupled with the transfer rule, will certainly make college sports completely different in a few years. My guess is the rich will get richer. Larger alumni bases with more $ will win. Maybe I'm wrong, wouldn't be the first time.
Posted on 6/29/21 at 6:04 pm to slacker130
I guess we will see how it all works out since it’s well on its way.
To further the question a little more. What happens at the high schools next? You think attendance doesn’t increase when a star player is playing on a team. ESPN carries games now and has been for a few years now. What if schools like IMG start signing contracts to be on ESPN 2-3 times a year. Those players get paid to?
At the end of the day the question is and always should be is … Are we a football factory or an institution of higher learning?
To further the question a little more. What happens at the high schools next? You think attendance doesn’t increase when a star player is playing on a team. ESPN carries games now and has been for a few years now. What if schools like IMG start signing contracts to be on ESPN 2-3 times a year. Those players get paid to?
At the end of the day the question is and always should be is … Are we a football factory or an institution of higher learning?
Posted on 6/29/21 at 6:24 pm to CorchJay
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At the end of the day the question is and always should be is … Are we a football factory or an institution of higher learning?
These don't have to be mutually exclusive.
Posted on 6/29/21 at 6:27 pm to slacker130
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I'm not smart enough to consider all the ramifications that are in store, but I'm fairly certain that it won't work like everyone wants.
This is probably the best answer. More than likely, a lot of good will come out of it, and a lot of bad, too. Just gotta hope the good outweighs the bad. Greedy people always find a way to exploit the system and take advantage of others. Let's hope the powers that be find a way to minimize their impact.
Posted on 6/29/21 at 8:14 pm to CorchJay
quote:Suni Lee might be the highest paid player at AU next year if she medals...she could have national media adverts...I think she might be our first test...
Are we a gymnastics factory or an institution of higher learning?
Posted on 6/29/21 at 8:54 pm to TheJones
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If someone can make money of their own name, image, and likeness, then as far as I’m concerned, I hope they do well.
Agreed, but that won’t be good enough. Those players and sports that don’t get as much or none will then create a fight for fairness. All the athletes will want similar whether it’s due to their own marketing or “equity” funds to pay everybody “equally”.
It will be a shite show eventually.
Posted on 6/29/21 at 11:17 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
Rocky that is definitely gonna be a huge issue. I’m all for capitalism but wait for the whataboutmeism that will happen in the non revenue generating sports. Title IX will definitely come into effect.
And we are playing dumb if we think athletes don’t get benefits outside of normal scholarship students. Especially post grad. Stan White has sold insurance for years and radio color guy. Tyrone Prothro worked at Bryant Bank for years didnt he at Bama. Trust me the network and connections for “former” athletes go a long way. Q. Riggins went to Montgomery for a do nothing job for years in state government. Think he is still working in state government in some capacity.
And we are playing dumb if we think athletes don’t get benefits outside of normal scholarship students. Especially post grad. Stan White has sold insurance for years and radio color guy. Tyrone Prothro worked at Bryant Bank for years didnt he at Bama. Trust me the network and connections for “former” athletes go a long way. Q. Riggins went to Montgomery for a do nothing job for years in state government. Think he is still working in state government in some capacity.
Posted on 6/30/21 at 6:48 am to TheJones
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I would like to see Auburn Athletics require kids making more than x amount to complete a personal finance course that covers taxation, compound interest, etc.
That course should be mandatory for every student.
Posted on 6/30/21 at 10:10 am to metafour
quote:That's true for even the non-scholarship players; at least it was back in the Bowden era. I had a couple of friends who walked on the '94 team as incoming freshmen. They came in early, went through all of the summer drills, were there for fan day, etc. They were never going to be more than practice squad players, but they wanted to give it a shot.
These kids are literally pushed into the easiest courses imaginable so they can focus as much time on their sport, and that's fine because most of the athletes we recruit at this level aren't here for school anyway.
Both were enrolled in pre-engineering courses and were told point blank you can either be a part of the football team or you can study engineering, not both. You are expected to dedicate the majority of your time outside of class to football, and you can't do that and pass engineering courses.
Posted on 6/30/21 at 10:57 am to PJinAtl
quote:Sean Carder, who was a walk-on WR who ended up being a holder for Scott Etheridge during the '93 season, was a senior pre-vet at the time (graduated from AU CVM in '97). Pretty sure he didn't have to choose between football and his studies, but then again he probably didn't even play on the practice squad, since all he did was play ST (he also recovered the onside kick at Vandy that season).
Both were enrolled in pre-engineering courses and were told point blank you can either be a part of the football team or you can study engineering, not both. You are expected to dedicate the majority of your time outside of class to football, and you can't do that and pass engineering courses.
Then again, Jason Miska was a walkon LB from Connecticut on that '93 team who not only attended classes, but supposedly worked at Subway part-time during the season to help pay for his tuition. Can't imagine that happening now
This post was edited on 6/30/21 at 11:03 am
Posted on 6/30/21 at 11:03 am to BigBlueAU
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I would like to see Auburn Athletics require kids making more than x amount to complete a personal finance course that covers taxation, compound interest, etc.
That course should be mandatory for every student.
agree, I saw that Clemson has a program, PAW Journey, that helps student athletes prepare for real world work. Teaches them budgeting, finance, networking, ect. They just had a video put out showing some seniors getting golf lessons to fit in better in the business world.
Posted on 6/30/21 at 11:09 am to PJinAtl
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most of the athletes we recruit at this level aren't here for school anyway....
That's true for even the non-scholarship players; at least it was back in the Bowden era.
None of that is an accurate picture of "most of the athletes we recruit" now or in the 90s. You fellas might to check out some graduation rates. And while the football schedule and some classes for certain majors are in conflict at times, we had engineering graduates even in the 90s.
Pedro Cherry says hi!
Posted on 6/30/21 at 11:32 am to BigBlueAU
People that think football players are to busy for school have no clue what their daily schedules are like. They have plenty of time for school. The problem is most athletes think they are going to the NFL and don’t give a crap about school. They practice football, study a little film, and play video games for hours each day. Rinse and repeat
Posted on 6/30/21 at 4:30 pm to CorchJay
Dennis Dodd
@dennisdoddcbs
Part of an NIL Q&A distributed to ADs and compliance I never thought I'd read:
Q: Can individuals enter into NIL agreements with boosters?
A: Yes ... (if it is in accordance with state law and/or school policy)
Posted on 6/30/21 at 7:29 pm to jangalang
So we set up deals where the schools “buy” stuff from the boosters. Then that booster just so happens that to sponsor all our athletes right?
Posted on 6/30/21 at 8:36 pm to Weagle25
Maybe. Sounds like it could be the Wild West at the moment.
Posted on 6/30/21 at 9:29 pm to Weagle25
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So we set up deals where the schools “buy” stuff from the boosters. Then that booster just so happens that to sponsor all our athletes right?
I mean you can just encourage the boosters to sponsor athletes instead of donating $1m this year
Bobby Lowder existed in the wrong era
This post was edited on 6/30/21 at 9:30 pm
Posted on 7/1/21 at 3:25 am to CorchJay
quote:Hey coach don't ruin his narrative... because he sounded so spot on, off the top rope, accurately cool.
People that think football players are to busy for school have no clue what their daily schedules are like. They have plenty of time for school. The problem is most athletes think they are going to the NFL and don’t give a crap about school. They practice football, study a little film, and play video games for hours each day. Rinse and repeat
According to the latest pre-covid study I found... overall there was a football Student-Athlete graduation success rate of 78.8 in 2018 ... a higher rate than their male non-athletic peers in the student body within D1 schools. ( from)... Why we can guess but this study noted that for poor graduation rates there is loss of scholarships at stake. And we all know these kids receive the best mentoring and tutoring that money can buy ... to the point they almost don't need to take the acutal tests for themselves
and are monitored well beyond the normal college student for failure. It's also painfully obvious that most of these kids know less than 2% make it to the NFL ( link). But I've never been in his shoe's so maybe he's smarter than the guys who study this stuff.
Posted on 7/1/21 at 7:56 am to CorchJay
How much will they really make once that money, their scholarship amount, and all their benefits get taxed? I can't imagine the dollar signs the kids see will be what they are imagining.
They want the free shite (tuition, room, food) to stay free but make money off their likeness. IRS won't see it that way
They want the free shite (tuition, room, food) to stay free but make money off their likeness. IRS won't see it that way
This post was edited on 7/1/21 at 7:58 am
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