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re: Rumor Steele gone if Gus stays
Posted on 11/19/19 at 7:48 pm to Pettifogger
Posted on 11/19/19 at 7:48 pm to Pettifogger
lol, I think he is a decent coach, I was just having some fun with the record, and RB's question.
Posted on 11/19/19 at 7:57 pm to NewbombII
Any truth to this idiot’s rumor?
Posted on 11/19/19 at 8:20 pm to TheJones
Can we start Grumors like Tennessee?? I think Gruden would be a great fit
Posted on 11/19/19 at 8:39 pm to The Nino
Spider 2 Y banana is nothing compared to the whirly bird.
Posted on 11/19/19 at 8:59 pm to The Nino
I'd take Mike Norvell in a heartbeat if we can retain Steele as DC
Posted on 11/19/19 at 9:06 pm to thirdlawson
Same. I did hear he comes with some baggage. Any idea what that might be? I think Justin Hokanson mentioned it.
Posted on 11/19/19 at 9:14 pm to Pettifogger
Iowa State has been to bowl game 8 times in the last 20 years (1999-2018). Matt Campbell is responsible for 2 of them. While he is winning at a shite program, he hasn't won the conference or done anything of significance.
Matt Campbell doesn't excite me very much...
Matt Campbell doesn't excite me very much...
Posted on 11/19/19 at 9:15 pm to bawbarn
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Same. I did hear he comes with some baggage. Any idea what that might be? I think Justin Hokanson mentioned it.
I couldn't give less of a frick.
Posted on 11/19/19 at 9:20 pm to Pettifogger
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Campbell very likely has that program at its 50 year high and has done it while beating a couple ranked teams a season
I think they have 7 eight win seasons in 50 years and Campbell already has 2 of those with a good chance to add another.
Also has a decent chance to get 9 wins, something Iowa State has only done once in like 120 years and that was 19 years ago.
He would be a solid, low-risk hire imo. Obviously some recruiting networks would need strengthening via savvy staff hires.
Would rank him right after Cristobal on my “to call” list.
Posted on 11/19/19 at 10:17 pm to atlau
Delete for being a dumbass
This post was edited on 11/19/19 at 10:18 pm
Posted on 11/20/19 at 6:03 am to TheJones
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Luke warm on Campbell
For not having regional ties? Also, is he not worth the buyout, or do you think he is, but further down your list?
Coaches like him obviously don’t have the talent and resources that Gus has to work with right now. He is young enough and smart enough to let us blossom for years to come.
This post was edited on 11/20/19 at 6:08 am
Posted on 11/20/19 at 6:38 am to SamGinn Cam
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Greg Roman
This is really the only name that gets me excited. I’m not even sure if that’s realistic or not?
Posted on 11/20/19 at 8:10 am to Aubie Spr96
From Marcello:
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3 things I think
Malzahn’s future
Will Gus Malzahn be Auburn’s coach in 2020? I don’t know and neither do you. The only person with complete control over that decision is the man himself. If Malzahn beats Alabama, why should Auburn fire him? Why should the athletics department pay him $27 million to leave a program the he has led to multiple wins against Alabama and has a chance to reach 10 wins against Jeff Sagarin’s toughest schedule in the country?
The only way Malzahn is not the coach next season with a win against Alabama is if he high-tails it for Arkansas and, well, I wouldn’t blame him he headed “home.” The writing seems to be on the wall at Auburn, where power brokers are constantly looking for a way to get rid of the man. I’m not here to argue whether that’s the right or wrong decision. Here’s what I do know: high emotions lead to fiscally irresponsible decisions. Look no further than the seven-year, $49 million deal then-president Steven Leath rewarded Gus Malzahn in 2017. Victories against then-No. 1 Alabama and Georgia seemed fantastic at the time. Then Auburn lost to Georgia in the rematch in the SEC title game, and Alabama and Georgia still got what it wanted and met in the national championship game. By the time January rolled on the calendar and Auburn lost to UCF in the Peach Bowl, Auburn fans were already upset with the new contract.
Argue all you want about the salary, which will rise above $7 million per year The issue for Auburn — and at most programs in college football — is the buyout. Why on Earth is a school guaranteeing 75 percent of a seven-year contract? Why schools do not believe they have leveraging power in negotiations — particularly top-15 programs like Auburn — is beyond my understanding. Maybe it’s time athletics directors and presidents hire negotiators to handle these deals instead of bending to the will of coaches for fear they’ll leave for another program.
Wanna leave for Arkansas? Go for it. You’re not gonna win a championship there. Auburn will win that staring contest every time, no matter the buyout.
What I’m saying is this: if a coach wants to leave, they’ll leave. But if a school wants to fire a coach, it’s like pulling teeth. And that’s the schools’ fault for doing whatever agents want in negotiations. Say all you want about the market, but I don’t believe the market is the same for top-15 programs capable of contending for national championships. They should hold the power, not the agents.
So, where does that leave Auburn, which will owe Malzahn $27 million if administrators fire him? No one knows, even the rich folks who want him gone last year, yesterday and today.
Who’s in charge? I’m not so sure. I don’t believe athletics director Allen Greene has the final say. Should this thing reach a fever pitch like it almost did last year, my feeling is interim president Jay Gogue, who likes to stay out of the way of athletics, may have to intervene and be a calming presence in the rough waters. Leadership is needed in times like this and, well, I’m not seeing it. All I hear is complaining, rumblings in rooms filled with cigar smoke, dreams written on napkins and a fan base obsessed with more Jimmy Sexton ghost stories.
What happens? I believe Malzahn will ultimately decide his own fate. I don’t believe he wants to leave Auburn, and if he’s fired after beating Alabama, the school would look awfully silly — and would pay quite the price with its image. Firing him after an eight-win season and rewarding him $27 million without an elite replacement in your back pocket would be ridiculed, too.
It’s all a gamble, sure, but the decisions are pretty simple when less people are involved.
There will come a time when the two sides grow tired of this internal battle. Malzahn might be smart to jet today if he can, but he’s so obsessed with winning a championship, it would take a soul-searching moment and sudden re-adjustment of his career goals for him to leave Auburn for another program, even if the pressure is on and no one at Auburn likes him. After all, why voluntarily leave a place you’ve proven you can win a title, especially when the school owes you $27 million?
Also, I'm not so sure Arkansas wants him as badly as some believe.
Malzahn has the power. Not the athletics department.
You can thank Steven Leath and Jimmy Sexton for that — for better or worse.
So, talk all you want. Until someone devises the perfect plan (raise money for the buyout and find the perfect replacement), Novembers at Auburn will continue to sound like emotional friends trash-talking at a fantasy football draft.
Posted on 11/20/19 at 8:16 am to jangalang
That's depressing.
I have assumed Gus isn't going anywhere, but realizing it everyday with the drip of half info is making that realization worse. I don't really have any faith in beating bama. Which is insane because we should absolutely beat a Tualess bama.
I have assumed Gus isn't going anywhere, but realizing it everyday with the drip of half info is making that realization worse. I don't really have any faith in beating bama. Which is insane because we should absolutely beat a Tualess bama.
Posted on 11/20/19 at 8:16 am to jangalang
I agree AU needs to stop buyouts. We overpay. Provide results or leave. I disagree with his statement on Bama. Reporters and outsiders dont really understand what AU people want. It isnt the Bama game. It is losing to a terrible UT program. Dropping winnable games vs LSU. Not showing up for the UGA game, which is just as big as the IB to AU alumni. Everyone forgets about the embarrassing JSU game. Gus doesnt win bowl games. That's why people want him gone.
ETA:
Everyone wanted an "outsider" when we hired Leath. Look at what he did by not understanding our culture.
ETA:
Everyone wanted an "outsider" when we hired Leath. Look at what he did by not understanding our culture.
This post was edited on 11/20/19 at 8:18 am
Posted on 11/20/19 at 10:48 am to BuckFama334
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Iowa State has been to bowl game 8 times in the last 20 years (1999-2018). Matt Campbell is responsible for 2 of them. While he is winning at a shite program, he hasn't won the conference or done anything of significance.
Matt Campbell doesn't excite me very much...
I don't know who else would then. Excites me a lot more than Mike Norvell, for example.
He's excelled at 2 schools at differing levels, has knocked off several major teams in the Big 12 during decent seasons for them (first win against Oklahoma in 27 years, at Norman and with Oklahoma ranked #3). He's beaten ranked teams every season at Iowa State, including 2 top 5 wins in 2017 and a top 10 win last season, as well as beating Norvell's Memphis, FWIW.
Since 2017 (second year) he's lost one game by more than 10 points (by 14 @ #13 Texas). His losses since 2017 are all decent teams and frequently by less than a TD.
He's going to get a major job, whether it is us or elsewhere.
Posted on 11/20/19 at 10:51 am to thirdlawson
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Same. I did hear he comes with some baggage. Any idea what that might be? I think Justin Hokanson mentioned it.
I couldn't give less of a frick.
Gambling has always been the whispering I've heard on Norvell, but never from anyone who seems particularly credible and it's never been stated with any sort of authority.
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