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re: Portal Extravaganza: Round 2! I’ve been twittered. The search for scout team QB continues.

Posted on 12/4/24 at 5:30 am to
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 12/4/24 at 5:30 am to
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running a RPO system


Why are we married to “RPO system”?

Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
51966 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 6:36 am to
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Haynes King heading to the portal


Get him
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
45188 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 6:37 am to
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Get him

Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
45188 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 6:41 am to
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Why are we married to “RPO system”?

Defreeze loves putting the defense and the quarterback in conflict simultaneously creating big plays and turnovers.
This post was edited on 12/4/24 at 7:56 am
Posted by cadillacattack
the ATL
Member since May 2020
7601 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 7:07 am to
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We better or Gus will still be responsible for the OLine downfall. For some reason, Auburn is toxic for high school linemen and has been for a while. Not sure anyone has a real answer why


Doesn’t matter “why” for Freeze … he either addresses this root problem, or he will deservedly be sent packing at the end of the 2025 season… there’s no more runway to get this pig airborn.
Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
47316 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 7:54 am to
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No one has even mentioned Conner Weigman? Yall absolutely don’t know QBs

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Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
45188 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 7:56 am to
Corch loves him some Weigman and I dont know why.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 12/4/24 at 7:56 am to
Haynes King or bust
Posted by The Nino
Member since Jan 2010
21713 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 8:00 am to
I’m also on the King bandwagon


…which means it’ll never happen
Posted by jt33
Member since Aug 2017
4729 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 9:56 am to
Haynes is ok, but I don't know if hes a good enough passer for what we are looking for.

Corch tbh I don't get why you like the wig man so much. He's just ok to me.
Posted by auyushu
Surprise, AZ
Member since Jan 2011
9187 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 10:03 am to
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Corch tbh I don't get why you like the wig man so much. He's just ok to me.


Yeah, he was super mediocre when he started at A&M, and would be a terrible fit in a RPO heavy scheme. Don't see the appeal at all for what Freeze likes to do.
Posted by jvilletiger25
jacksonville, fl
Member since Jan 2014
19193 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 1:22 pm to
No pocket passers for me dawg. Freeze needs a true dual threat to make teams pay for bringing the house the entire game.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
37379 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 1:47 pm to
Agreed. In today’s game, I think you have to have a mobile QB. Doesn’t have to be a Nick Marshall type, but you have to be mobile enough to scramble when plays breakdown and keep the backside of defenses honest.
Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
3891 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 1:58 pm to
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No pocket passers for me dawg. Freeze needs a true dual threat to make teams pay for bringing the house the entire game.



So no Cam Ward for you then? What is a "pocket passer"? There are very few actual statuesque QB's left.

Guys like Ward, the Rourke kid at Indiana, and many of the highest rated QB's in the country this season are guys who look to stay in the pocket.
Posted by Hussss
Helena, AL
Member since Oct 2016
7482 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 2:04 pm to
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dawg. Freeze needs a true dual threat to make teams pay for bringing the house the entire game.


Hell, Freeze COULD HAVE made em PAY with screen passes, draw plays and Wheel Routes to Jarquez but he wasn’t smart enough to realize he had the best back in the league besides Dylan Sampson @ TN

FRICKKKK FREEZE
This post was edited on 12/4/24 at 2:07 pm
Posted by jvilletiger25
jacksonville, fl
Member since Jan 2014
19193 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 2:16 pm to
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So no Cam Ward for you then?

Ward is not a pocket passer.

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What is a "pocket passer"?

Someone that can’t be dangerous when they take off. Nobody was afraid of PT running and getting maybe 30 yards during the game.

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many of the highest rated QB's in the country this season are guys who look to stay in the pocket.

Many dual threat QBs get the luxury to stay in the pocket, because defenses try to contain them and not bring pressure. Durkin was afraid to pressure multiple QBs this season.
Posted by AA7
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2009
27970 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 2:20 pm to
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Someone that can’t be dangerous when they take off. Nobody was afraid of PT running and getting maybe 30 yards during the game.

Cam Ward averaged 16 yards a game this year and averaged less than 11 yards a game for his career

ETA: Ward has great pocket presence and some elusiveness but rarely looks to actually run the ball
This post was edited on 12/4/24 at 2:23 pm
Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
3891 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 2:28 pm to
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Ward is not a pocket passer.



Dear god are you clueless.

Go and check Cam Ward's career stats . .

He had a whopping 58 carries for 196 yards this season (3.4 YPC).

In his two seasons at WSU he was averaging 0.5 and 1.2 YPC.

Over his entire career he has 461 rushing yards and a 1.2 YPC. That is ~92 yards per season.

This is a guy that only as a last resort looks to leave the pocket. He does NOT look to run down the field.

Payton ****ing Thorne had more rush yards LAST SEASON (515) than Ward has in his ENTIRE CAREER. Thorne has 1,068 rushing yards in his career. More than 2x as many was Ward. His career YPC is 2.6. Again, more than 2x Ward's career YPC.
Posted by jvilletiger25
jacksonville, fl
Member since Jan 2014
19193 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 2:35 pm to
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Go and check Cam Ward's career stats

Go and check some of his scramble highlights, retard. I guess you think Pat Mahomes is a pocket passer too.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
37379 posts
Posted on 12/4/24 at 2:50 pm to
I don’t know if some of y’all are being purposefully obtuse or just taking the term pocket passer way too literally.

Jville is clearly using the term as it is normally used in the recruiting world to describe a QB that has no real running/scrambling threat (Miller Moss). Cam Ward is clearly a dual threat QB. The fact that he scrambled to pass, like a Bryce Young or Kyler Murray, doesn’t make him any less kf a dual threat.
This post was edited on 12/4/24 at 2:55 pm
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