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Posted on 10/21/20 at 7:47 am to
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
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Posted on 10/21/20 at 7:47 am to
Stoops would be awesome but he has a son playing at Oklahoma. He’s probably enjoying being a football fan/dad. But he would be awesome.

Posted by jvilletiger25
jacksonville, fl
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 10/21/20 at 7:56 am to
The rumor was Stoops agreed to take the job last year, if Gus was canned. But then he beat bama again.
Posted by AubieinNC2009
Mountain NC
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 10/21/20 at 8:13 am to
not sure I get the love for Stoops, yes he was a good coach a few years ago, but that was at OK. He was good in a weak conference and never seemed great after his first few years. Stoops was named "Big Game Bob" because he always lost the big games and I dont know if he would do any better going up against Bama, LSU, and UGA.

Not saying I wouldnt be happy if he came just not sure he is worth "back up the money truck" for.
Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
3599 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 9:00 am to
2-3 in the XFL Bob Stoops is the dream hire?
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
10929 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 10:27 am to
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Bob Stoops is the dream hire?
See him kinda like a David Cutcliffe hire would be. Ya know what they got, it's largely good, and mostly behind them. Throw in Bobby Petrino as well he's had his day and unfortunately mismanaged a promising career. . . (and probably done in the Bible Belt) . . . he needs to try again further north or west.

As for pie in the sky: Anthony Lynn

As a NFL coach that's probably on the hot seat and coupled with the dollars involved he might give college a try... if nothing more than later getting back into NFL head coaching. And he sounds/carries himself like a coach that could recruit well in the SEC. Which is our biggest dilemma in competing with other 'state teams'. We're not getting the pick of the litter to build a perfect system. Because it's not just his X's and O's, it's also signing the Jimmy's and Joe's who don't fit.
Posted by BuckFama334
Central Alabama
Member since Aug 2018
1826 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 10:33 am to
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As for pie in the sky: Anthony Lynn


.500 NFL HC that has never coached a down of college football.

He seems like a super guy and his recovery story from being ran over by a drunk driver is awesome.

I just do not see him being a realistic candidate in any way imaginable.
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
10929 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 10:49 am to
true dat

However being coach of the Chargers it's easy to be in deficit wins. And I think walking into a living room he might make a way better impression than ole what's his name. Plus his built-in NFL credibility would be a big plus for the top tier we're after.

eta: of course he still has a job!!!
This post was edited on 10/21/20 at 10:51 am
Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
3599 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 11:09 am to
Guys like that who have never stepped foot on the sideline of an NCAA program in any capacity are more or less bound to the NFL at this point.
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 10/21/20 at 11:19 am to
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2-3 in the XFL Bob Stoops is the dream hire?




I remember when everyone on this board laughed and made fun of Bob Stoops. Big Game Bob and so forth.

Now we want him.

Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
17287 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 11:26 am to
IMHO we would be better off hiring a coordinator with no HC experience than throwing the bankroll at a "proven" HC - particularly one like Stoops whose best days are behind him.

Stoops was a solid DC for a number of years when OU hired him to breathe some life into their program. I'd rather have a guy like that than the 2020 version.

The truth is, barring a complete meltdown this year (still a possibility), we will still be bitching about Gustav this time next fall. Might as well rename the thread to 2021.
This post was edited on 10/21/20 at 11:42 am
Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
46186 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 11:31 am to
Cristobal or Venables.

Only two names I’ve heard that I want.

Stoops would’ve been a home run hire a few years ago but I think the time has passed on that.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79152 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 11:37 am to
I think of Stoops and Clark the same way, to some extent.

I don't think on paper either is the right hire, but both have potentially high ceilings and would get strong fan support once the hire was made. I'm interested to see what Clark could do, and I'm interested to see what Stoops still has.

But I think there are better all around choices.

Venables is hard because going this long without becoming an HC raises red flags. Sort of like Gary Patterson not moving beyond TCU. But at some point that narrative becomes self-fulfilling, and there's always the chance that schools are passing to their detriment.
Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 10/21/20 at 12:07 pm to
quote:

Venables is hard because going this long without becoming an HC raises red flags. Sort of like Gary Patterson not moving beyond TCU. But at some point that narrative becomes self-fulfilling, and there's always the chance that schools are passing to their detriment.

I don’t even know what this means.

Patterson would’ve been a home run hire and we had a strong portion of the fanbase that were strangely against him.
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 10/21/20 at 12:12 pm to
Uh, pretty self explanatory -

Patterson - Looked at by a ton of bigger schools and hasn't been hired

Venables - Looked at by a ton of schools and hasn't been hired

They wear those reputations now, rightly or wrongly. It's like a player sliding in the draft. Some probably have a good reason for passing, some are probably spooked by other programs passing.
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 10/21/20 at 12:22 pm to
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Venables - Looked at by a ton of schools and hasn't been hired
I may be mistaken, but I don't think he's even interviewed for any HC gigs yet.

Yahoo article from this September I posted earlier ITT indicated that he didn't think he was ready to be an HC at the time, but is ready to seriously consider opportunities now.

He's like Dave Aranda IMHO - just a solid guy all around who's waited til he was ready to be an HC. I'm guessing a P5 program willing to take a chance will hire him, if not this year due to COVID, by the end of 2021 at the latest.

Personally, I'd be thrilled if it was AU that got him. Not too many guys out there I could say that about.
Posted by PrisonMike
Member since Jan 2015
1528 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 12:25 pm to
Stoops is a choker and we don’t want someone who has taken a break.

Venables has had a shot at high profile HC jobs for a few years but hasn’t taken them. Don’t care about the reason. He’s not alpha enough. We need an alpha.
Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
46186 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 12:35 pm to
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Patterson - Looked at by a ton of bigger schools and hasn't been hired

Pretty well known he was the one passing on other schools.


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Venables - Looked at by a ton of schools and hasn't been hired

Passes on small schools. Doesn’t want to take a job until it’s a big one (the Kirby Smart method). The catch is a lot of big schools are hesitant to hire you without HC experience at a smaller school.

There’s absolutely no reputation that these guys are getting passed up
This post was edited on 10/21/20 at 12:36 pm
Posted by nineteeneighty
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2020
219 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 12:36 pm to
I know he lost to Louisiana, but I like Matt Campbell at Iowa state. They play well in all phases and are currently 1st in the big 12.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79152 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 12:42 pm to
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Pretty well known he was the one passing on other schools.



We passed on him. So did Nebraska and Tennessee. I've never heard that Patterson wouldn't be ripe for the picking. Granted, I don't know of any schools who've given him a long look lately, and that plays back into being passed over multiple times.

quote:

There’s absolutely no reputation that these guys are getting passed up



Venables has been an elite candidate for years, and hasn't gotten an offer from a big school. The reputation is absolutely there. A simply google search shows articles asking the question from 4-5 years ago. Maybe he's turned down reasonably big schools, but I don't think so and there is no evidence they've shown interest that has been rebuffed.

As mentioned, Patterson has an even more established record of being passed on. It's no secret.
Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
3599 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 12:43 pm to
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I may be mistaken, but I don't think he's even interviewed for any HC gigs yet.

Yahoo article from this September I posted earlier ITT indicated that he didn't think he was ready to be an HC at the time, but is ready to seriously consider opportunities now.


He may say that publicly, but he is one guy who is strongly rumored to have some background stuff with him that has made him a non-candidate for certain job opening that have come up.

The comparison to Aranda doesn't work. Aranda came to Wisconsin as DC in 2013; in 2016 he took the LSU DC job, and in 2020 the HC job at Baylor. That is pretty normal progression for a successful coordinator-turned-HC. With Venables, you have to realize that this guy became the DC at Oklahoma in 2004 and has been DC at two top programs (Oklahoma and Clemson) for 16 years now. He has been a top recruiter that entire time as well, won titles, won the Broyles award, etc, etc. I don't buy that its taking this guy nearly 20 years to decide that he's ready to be a HC. He is either being absurdly picky, or there is semblance to some truth with regards to the rumors that circulate around him. Or, as mentioned previously, there is the possibility that programs are just following others to their own detriment (ie: a few programs pass under a certain pretense, and then that spooks future schools from giving him a serious look).
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