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re: lol Gus Malzahn fanboys
Posted on 10/26/19 at 7:36 pm to LanierSpots
Posted on 10/26/19 at 7:36 pm to LanierSpots
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You are making no argument other than "fire the coach" bla bla. If you cant make a coherent argument, just sit back and watch
How about, know what we know, you give us a reason for keeping that shite-stain of a coach? What does he have to do to get fired? Motorcycle wreck with a side piece on the back? Hell, Chiz got fired 3 years after winning the natty! Gus doesn't even have that to hang his hat on, and we are regressing! Next year will make this year look like we beat the Patriots in the SB!
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Posted on 10/26/19 at 7:38 pm to PearlJam
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I don't think it is easy to find players that can run an offense that way. Cam was a generational talent and Nick Marshall was the best zone read QB ever. Those guys are rare.
Didn't we pass on Lamar Jackson to recruit White?
Posted on 10/26/19 at 7:38 pm to PearlJam
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I don't think it is easy to find players that can run an offense that way. Cam was a generational talent and Nick Marshall was the best zone read QB ever. Those guys are rare.
But its almost like he totally got away from it. I think it was partially ego and some was outside noise crying for a balanced attack. I personally could care less about a balanced attack. That offense was unstoppable and I dont believe for a second we coud not have built on that for years and years
Posted on 10/26/19 at 7:39 pm to AUveritas
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I honestly think it's his ego. He didn't like being pigeonholed as someone who had to have a running QB and set out to prove his offensive genius.
I totally agree. I think his ego got the best of him along with others putting pressure on him for a balanced attack
Posted on 10/26/19 at 7:41 pm to LanierSpots
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That offense was unstoppable and I dont believe for a second we coud not have built on that for years and years
I agree, but to be fair people defend the zone read differently now. If you have the athletes up front you simply blow it up at the point of attack. It's one reason we began to struggle in short yardage as early as 2014.
Posted on 10/26/19 at 7:41 pm to LanierSpots
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But its almost like he totally got away from it. I think it was partially ego and some was outside noise crying for a balanced attack. I personally could care less about a balanced attack. That offense was unstoppable and I dont believe for a second we coud not have built on that for years and years
I'm not trying to be a jackass.
I think this is acceptance.
Would you agree it's time to move on before he sets us back 10+ years?
Posted on 10/26/19 at 7:44 pm to MrLarson
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Would you agree it's time to move on
Sure. If that is what is felt its needed. But in my opinion, burning it down and starting over is not the right call. Its not the same as Chizik. But that has been talked about to death.
if Auburn feels its time to move on, then that is the right thing to do. For me, not now. This is a pretty solid team with a big issue at QB that wont get fixed this year. And in all that, we could still be a 10 win season at the end of the year.
But if its time to burn it to the ground, then lets do it
Posted on 10/26/19 at 7:48 pm to LanierSpots
Don't want to burn it to the ground.
But did he lose the team tonight?
It seemed he had a pregame plan for Gatewood to come in then pulled him back. That's some locker room shite that will will fester the rest of the year.
Can he recover from that with his players?
But did he lose the team tonight?
It seemed he had a pregame plan for Gatewood to come in then pulled him back. That's some locker room shite that will will fester the rest of the year.
Can he recover from that with his players?
Posted on 10/26/19 at 7:55 pm to MrLarson
Hard to start an argument about Gus losing the lockeroom when the lockeroom was reciting his talking points word for word.
Say what you want about Gus but the players would go to war for him. I don’t think that’s ever going to be an issue.
Say what you want about Gus but the players would go to war for him. I don’t think that’s ever going to be an issue.
Posted on 10/26/19 at 8:03 pm to LanierSpots
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But in my opinion, burning it down and starting over is not the right cal
Why does it have to be burning it down and starting over if we move on? Lsu/uga both recently moved on and didn't burn anything down
Posted on 10/26/19 at 8:03 pm to TheJones
Serious question for the folks not ready to pull the trigger on Gus...
What would it take for you to want to move on from him? Is it gonna take a complete 2012 collapse? Or are you okay with 8-4 or 9-3 until he gets ready to retire in 15 years?
In life, football, business, or whatever sometimes you have to take risks to improve your situation. Sticking with Gus is conceding championships in favor of being pretty good. If we make a move and the next coach is a complete flop like Chad Morris, so be it. Because that same move could get us our Dabo or Saban. We have to roll the dice, it's time to move on...
What would it take for you to want to move on from him? Is it gonna take a complete 2012 collapse? Or are you okay with 8-4 or 9-3 until he gets ready to retire in 15 years?
In life, football, business, or whatever sometimes you have to take risks to improve your situation. Sticking with Gus is conceding championships in favor of being pretty good. If we make a move and the next coach is a complete flop like Chad Morris, so be it. Because that same move could get us our Dabo or Saban. We have to roll the dice, it's time to move on...
Posted on 10/26/19 at 8:03 pm to TheJones
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Say what you want about Gus but the players would go to war for him. I don’t think that’s ever going to be an issue.
After tonight or "according to "reports""
You must have missed player reactions on the sidelines after Gus snatched Gatewood back.
Posted on 10/26/19 at 8:09 pm to autodd03
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Why does it have to be burning it down and starting over if we move on? Lsu/uga both recently moved on and didn't burn anything down
Both changed the entire coaching staff. So you are ready to get rid of Steele and our assistants to get rid of Gus? Im just asking a question. Honesty not being a dick.
You are ready to fire him now or at the end of the season based on a 3 point loss with a true freshman QB on the road to what is being called the best team in the country. . Lets get rid of him and try to find someone new who can win against these #1 teams.
Is that what we are doing at Auburn?
Posted on 10/26/19 at 8:10 pm to MrLarson
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after Gus snatched Gatewood back.
I would love to know what happened there. Someone obviously called for the Gatewood package and Gus pulled him back as he was going out. Then we run the QB lead play that would be Joey's bread and butter.
Something is fricky on that.
This post was edited on 10/26/19 at 8:12 pm
Posted on 10/26/19 at 8:11 pm to MrLarson
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After tonight or "according to "reports""
That is BS and you know it. Gus has ran a very clean program since he got here and has had a great locker room.
And I know I will be hit for it but I totally agree with not bringing Gatewood in even tough I have wanted him to play all season. You should never mess with the flow of the offense by bringing in a second QB. Pick one and play him. There is rarely a good 2 qb system
Posted on 10/26/19 at 8:12 pm to BuckFama334
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Serious question for the folks not ready to pull the trigger on Gus...
Gus would have been fired by now if he had Chizik’s buyout. $27million, like $35 last season, is the kind of money that limits your next coaching contract. We had a tough time fundraising for a FOF. The well isn’t as deep as we think it is.
If Auburn knows it can fork over that cash and get a top tier coach then I’d obviously be more than happy to see the school part ways. I don’t think this season or this loss changed my view any. We’re where I thought we’d be.
Posted on 10/26/19 at 8:14 pm to LanierSpots
There have been plenty of Auburn alums have success in coaching at other schools. Keeping Cadillac, T-Will, Kodi isn't more important than winning games for me. I'm okay with having a coaching staff full of guys who aren't "Auburn Men" if they fricking win championships.
Posted on 10/26/19 at 8:15 pm to LanierSpots
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I honestly think it's his ego. He didn't like being pigeonholed as someone who had to have a running QB and set out to prove his offensive genius.
I honestly don’t think it is is ego. I think in 2013, his first year, he had to figure out how to make it work with the pieces that were there. So he went with a zone read offense. It was simple and freaking effective. Now that he has all these new toys like Schwartz, Shivers, Nix, etc. he gets too cute and has too many options (in his mind) now.
It’s almost like in fishing when you only have like one or two go to lures, you get to know those really well and how to make the best use of them. Then when you get some money and go out and get all the new gear, you suck because now there are just too many options. That’s what I think has happened.
Posted on 10/26/19 at 8:18 pm to BuckFama334
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I'm okay with having a coaching staff full of guys who aren't "Auburn Men" if they fricking win championships.
I could care less about the "Auburn man" guys. I have never even used that statement once in my almost 50K posts
Im talking about Steele and the guys who support him. And our recruiting staff
Typically, you lose everyone
Posted on 10/26/19 at 8:20 pm to ridlejs
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I honestly don’t think it is is ego. I think in 2013, his first year, he had to figure out how to make it work with the pieces that were there. So he went with a zone read offense. It was simple and freaking effective. Now that he has all these new toys like Schwartz, Shivers, Nix, etc. he gets too cute and has too many options (in his mind) now.
That is certainly possible but a lot of the plays that worked for us in 2013-2014 worked for us in 2010. They were Gus plays.
I honestly think it was more pressure coming from within to make a more balanced offense.
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