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re: Ken Williamson, Auburn v Georgia ref permanently suspended
Posted on 10/23/25 at 9:57 am to mckibaj
Posted on 10/23/25 at 9:57 am to mckibaj
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I think it was a fumble. But also think the play should have never happened because the play before was a TD.
First play was a TD, UGA was clearly offsides, and I do think he crossed the goal line with the ball in his posession. However, I don't think there was clearly enough to overrule the call on the field. Them calling it a fumble when they didn't know where the ball was is probably the most ridiculous part of that whole sequence.
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Gotta hold on to that ball regardless.
100%
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roughing the passer was a bad call too.
I bitched about this one nonstop. Probably the most egregious call of that entire final drive. Williams already had a hand on the QB and was falling down when he threw the ball, it was clear as day continuation. That call was 100% done to give them a 1st down as it wasn't thrown until after the pass went incomplete and would have been 4th down.
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Posted on 10/23/25 at 10:34 am to GoCrazyAuburn
What about the crew that did the Oklahoma officiating? Beyond the apology was there a punishment or suspension? Clearly they didn’t know the rules
Posted on 10/23/25 at 10:36 am to GoCrazyAuburn
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and I do think he crossed the goal line with the ball in his posession
Ball doesn’t have to cross the line.
It is a TD when it breaks the plane, hence nose of the ball touches the beginning of the ‘white line’
Posted on 10/23/25 at 10:38 am to FlyDownTheField
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Georgia was clearly the favorite and exactly when it seemed Auburn was going to run away with it, things got fishy quick.
From the 2-minute warning, 'til halftime was some of the most blatant example I've ever seen of officials dictating the game.
It was beyond bad.
Posted on 10/23/25 at 10:40 am to Fearless_and_True
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Ball doesn’t have to cross the line.
It is a TD when it breaks the plane, hence nose of the ball touches the beginning of the ‘white line’
Yes, saying the exact same thing.
. If any part of the ball crosses the goal line, it is a touchdown.This post was edited on 10/23/25 at 10:41 am
Posted on 10/23/25 at 10:41 am to Fearless_and_True
Posted on 10/23/25 at 10:42 am to GoCrazyAuburn
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Yes, saying the exact same thing. .
My apologies, I need coffee
Posted on 10/23/25 at 10:50 am to FlyDownTheField
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I was hoping he'd get himself ejected just for moral team support. We'd probably have won without him too
Same.
I wanted so bad for him to go Will Muschamp mode and crawl their arse out past numbers. Either do that or dont even mention it at all.
Posted on 10/23/25 at 11:07 am to GoCrazyAuburn
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I bitched about this one nonstop. Probably the most egregious call of that entire final drive.
Yeah I was holding it together until that one.
Posted on 10/23/25 at 11:11 am to AUarch79
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What about the crew that did the Oklahoma officiating? Beyond the apology was there a punishment or suspension?
I heard from a fairly reliable source that OK crew was suspended the following week after the AU/OK game.
Posted on 10/23/25 at 12:38 pm to IAmNERD
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From the 2-minute warning, 'til halftime was some of the most blatant example I've ever seen of officials dictating the game.
It was beyond bad.
From the stands it felt like it was all intentional from that point to halfime, and blatantly so, then it followed over after halftime to sometimes worse degrees. It felt like Georgia's drive before halftime was basically just all ref freebies.
This post was edited on 10/23/25 at 12:40 pm
Posted on 10/23/25 at 12:55 pm to TemperdTiger
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For now this is still the only publication that is reporting this suspension, so there might be some hesitation to know if this is fully true
Pat McAfee show just discussing the fallout from it with Herbstreit. Brings a little more validity and they used same source on the intro
Posted on 10/23/25 at 1:39 pm to jangalang
Who screws up 82% of the time and then expects to stay employed?
Jeez.
Jeez.
Posted on 10/23/25 at 1:43 pm to EagleEye99
After the OK game, the SEC really needs to put out an official statement concerning the refs in the GA game. Just when you think it couldn't be any worse, Ken Williamson and crew says "Hold my beer". I would also like to know how replay got the TD/Fumble call so wrong. Replay was supposed to fix calls erroneously made on the field.
The SEC has taken a huge credibility hit with those two games alone. Every objective person has some doubt on why the DSOR was officiated the way it was. It wasn't just one or two bad calls, it was an avalance of bad officiating with a ton of blatant no-calls that benefited one team.
With the news just out today with the NBA gambling scandal, the last thing the SEC wants is for the Feds to start asking questions.
The SEC has taken a huge credibility hit with those two games alone. Every objective person has some doubt on why the DSOR was officiated the way it was. It wasn't just one or two bad calls, it was an avalance of bad officiating with a ton of blatant no-calls that benefited one team.
With the news just out today with the NBA gambling scandal, the last thing the SEC wants is for the Feds to start asking questions.
Posted on 10/23/25 at 1:51 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
I thought the refs vehemently sucked the entire game. BUT...the touchdown dispute was not so straight forward.
I don't believe there was enough conclusive evidence to overturn the call on the field, but the initial call itself puts the referees in an impossible position. The runner clearly crosses the goal line with his body. The only question is: Did the ball cross with him?
If the officials didn't actually see the ball break the plane, they're forced into a no-win decision:
- Call it a touchdown: You're assuming the ball crossed based on the runner's position-despite no clear visual confirmation.
- Call it a fumble: You're ruling the ball came loose before the goal line, again, without definitive proof.
Either way, you're making a judgment call on something you didn't see. That’s not refereeing; that’s guessing under pressure.
This is why the "indisputable visual evidence" standard for replay exists. Without a clear angle showing the ball’s exact position, the call on the field, whatever it was, should stand. The refs were stuck between two uncertain outcomes, and replay didn’t give them a lifeline.
I don't believe there was enough conclusive evidence to overturn the call on the field, but the initial call itself puts the referees in an impossible position. The runner clearly crosses the goal line with his body. The only question is: Did the ball cross with him?
If the officials didn't actually see the ball break the plane, they're forced into a no-win decision:
- Call it a touchdown: You're assuming the ball crossed based on the runner's position-despite no clear visual confirmation.
- Call it a fumble: You're ruling the ball came loose before the goal line, again, without definitive proof.
Either way, you're making a judgment call on something you didn't see. That’s not refereeing; that’s guessing under pressure.
This is why the "indisputable visual evidence" standard for replay exists. Without a clear angle showing the ball’s exact position, the call on the field, whatever it was, should stand. The refs were stuck between two uncertain outcomes, and replay didn’t give them a lifeline.
Posted on 10/23/25 at 2:10 pm to dehsloot
At minimum, there were 4 UGA lineman lined up in neutral zone. Should have been a free play regardless and penalty resulting in half the distance to goal/replay the down. That much is very damn clear
Posted on 10/23/25 at 3:23 pm to greygoose
How are CFB officials assigned anyway?
I had assumed that, generally, entire crews would work together each Saturday and crews were assigned games as a whole. Makes some sense as they would learn to work together more efficiently. "Floaters" available when someone calls in sick.
While that approach might be more efficient, it seems like it would be easier for nefarious elements to compromise an entire crew if they always work together as a cohesive unit versus individual officials if assignments are passed out individually each week. That is, individuals may end up working together two or more times over the course of a season but randomly. Seems like that would help protect the integrity of the game.
Not saying the officials at UGA/AU were compromised, maybe just made some really bad calls, but it's not an outrageous question to ask either.
I had assumed that, generally, entire crews would work together each Saturday and crews were assigned games as a whole. Makes some sense as they would learn to work together more efficiently. "Floaters" available when someone calls in sick.
While that approach might be more efficient, it seems like it would be easier for nefarious elements to compromise an entire crew if they always work together as a cohesive unit versus individual officials if assignments are passed out individually each week. That is, individuals may end up working together two or more times over the course of a season but randomly. Seems like that would help protect the integrity of the game.
Not saying the officials at UGA/AU were compromised, maybe just made some really bad calls, but it's not an outrageous question to ask either.
Posted on 10/23/25 at 6:08 pm to Broadside Bob
ESPN has reported this also
Posted on 10/23/25 at 6:45 pm to Broadside Bob
quote:Humans make mistakes. But when you witness a constant barrage of mistakes AND the element implemented to correct, also fails, you have to start wondering if something bigger is at hand.
Not saying the officials at UGA/AU were compromised, maybe just made some really bad calls, but it's not an outrageous question to ask either.
Ever heard of a whole crew of SEC refs getting fired? Me either! Imagine if the SEC knows something that we don't, and that came out. The ramifications would be so massive, it would make this NBA gambling news look like a jaywalking offense.
There is so much money involved now in major collegiate athletics, it's not hard to fathom that nefarious actions could be at work to protect that massive income.
Posted on 10/23/25 at 7:15 pm to AUarch79
They had the notice on that rule. You get it by email at the beginning of the week.
For the White Hat and Umpire to tell the Oklahoma Staff the play was legal, got them suspended for the season.
For the White Hat and Umpire to tell the Oklahoma Staff the play was legal, got them suspended for the season.
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