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re: Insider Notes From BM: It's Happening
Posted on 10/18/18 at 7:55 am to AUtigR24
Posted on 10/18/18 at 7:55 am to AUtigR24
If they are going to make a move this year, I think it is because they know who the next head coach will be. I don't think they dish out all the $$$ and then go into the unknown of a coaching search.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 8:12 am to wareaglepete
Lolololol. This is AUburn. Of course they will.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 8:35 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
Every few years? It’s gus’s 6th season here....6th!
Posted on 10/18/18 at 8:38 am to PrisonMike
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The fact that Venables hasn’t already taken a head coaching position concerns me
It is because he is waiting for his alma mater Kansas St to open up.
That or waiting for Dabo Swinney to take the Bama job so he steps into a great Clemson situation
This post was edited on 10/18/18 at 8:40 am
Posted on 10/18/18 at 8:39 am to Ccslimm
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Every few years? It’s gus’s 6th season here....6th!
I agree I hope we drop the notion that Auburn hires and fires people quickly. Gus got 6 years. Before Chizik we had only 3 coaches from 1981-2008. That's pretty good.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 8:55 am to GenesChin
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It is because he is waiting for his alma mater Kansas St to open up.
That would be such a big hire for them. Would be great for that program.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 9:02 am to bawbarn
People keep hinting there is something wrong with Venables but it's not really discussed in detail. Best I can tell the allegation is that he's somewhat of a dullard.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 9:12 am to Pettifogger
People have mentioned on the Bunker that Venables might have domestic abuse allegations skeletons in his closet. I have no way of knowing if that’s true. Just passing along what I’ve seen over there.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 9:28 am to N97883
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still in for Kiffin
His skeletons are what concern me. We would hire the guy then something bad would come out
Posted on 10/18/18 at 9:43 am to ThaiTiger24
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Lolololol. This is AUburn. Of course they will.
Rhett Lashlee come on down! You're the next contestant on the Price is Right.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 9:45 am to HailToTheChiz
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His skeletons are what concern me. We would hire the guy then something bad would come out
I've said this before, but Having Kiffin as the coach is kinda like dating a super crazy hot chick. It's going to incredible for a while and you'd probably have more fun than you have ever had. When it goes sideways, you're going to feel like you just got your arse kicked and you'll have the scars to prove it. You'll still think about her, though.
I think I'd take the chance and enjoy the ride. Let future me pay the price, present me can party.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 9:46 am to N97883
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Im still in for Kiffin
give me one piece of legit evidence why he would be a great HC.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 10:14 am to AU_251
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give me one piece of legit evidence why he would be a great HC.
Thats fair....
But a lot of the stuff against him can be chalked up to youthful immaturity and being put in situations that he wasn't ready to handle. I think he's kept his nose clean for 4 solid years now. He's more 'proven' than some other coordinators that make the jump to HC....
I'd be happy to see what a 43 year old Kiffin with the RIGHT CONTRACT.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 10:21 am to AU_251
give me one piece of evidence that Bill Clark, Neal Brown, Bret Venables, Mel Tucker or any up and comer will be a a great HC.
No up and coming HC will be a guaranteed success. but its a risk one has to take
wish as folks may, wish as folks might Peterson, Kelly. Petrino. Franklin. Stoops. etc aren't walking through that door
No up and coming HC will be a guaranteed success. but its a risk one has to take
wish as folks may, wish as folks might Peterson, Kelly. Petrino. Franklin. Stoops. etc aren't walking through that door
This post was edited on 10/18/18 at 10:22 am
Posted on 10/18/18 at 10:23 am to AUjim
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But a lot of the stuff against him can be chalked up to youthful immaturity and being put in situations that he wasn't ready to handle. I think he's kept his nose clean for 4 solid years now. He's more 'proven' than some other coordinators that make the jump to HC.... I'd be happy to see what a 43 year old Kiffin with the RIGHT CONTRACT
All of this. Especially the RIGHT CONTRACT. Make it heavily performance based.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 10:31 am to slacker130
If Kiffin didn't antagonize Bama would anyone be touting him as an option?
A good season at a far lesser school and a short great stint as a coordinator at a loaded program is just really, really thin.
Particularly when it's accompanied by at least some evidence that he wasn't a great program manager when in comparably large gigs.
A good season at a far lesser school and a short great stint as a coordinator at a loaded program is just really, really thin.
Particularly when it's accompanied by at least some evidence that he wasn't a great program manager when in comparably large gigs.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 10:34 am to Pettifogger
I don't think he is an option because I want him. He wouldn't be my first choice. However, I do believe if we actually fire Gus, he will get a look by the suits.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 10:38 am to AU_251
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give me one piece of legit evidence why he would be a great HC.
Son Of Monte Kiffin he has grown up in it. Ever heard of the Tampa 2?
Responsible for some of the best offenses college football has ever seen while at USC
He's worked with Pete Carrol, Nick Saban, Norm Chow, Jeff Tedford, Tom Cable, Clay Helton, Steve Sark
He done exceptionally well as HC at USC. Keep in mind they were on probation, and had a ton of players leave out. The NCAA granted immediate transfers following the Pete Carrol debacle so USC played with 70 scholarship players instead of 85 and some of those 70 were redshirts.
In his 2nd year at USC he went 10-2. One of the losses was in triple OT to Andrew Lucks Stanford Team.
He won 8 games in his first year despite all the star players transferring
Overall 25-12 at USC in a time when the Pac-12 was actually good while on probation.
Check out some of USCs scores from that time frame. You'll see a lot of 49-10, 42-17, 50-3, 38-14
Who does that remind you of? Why do you think Saban hired Kiffin. Saban knew the game was changing and knew he could lead the charge with an explosive offense. He used Kiffin to lay the groundwork then got rid of him when he had the blueprint.
He won 10 games at FAU last year despite them being a doormat for the last 10 years. They'll probably win 8 or 9 games this year.
I see a lot of people saying we need a more conservative approach but IMO Kiffin is the safest hire out there right now. You are guaranteed good recruiting, a great staff, good offense, and winning.
The risky hires are the coordinators and lower conference / division coaches I see some people throwing around. You don't know if those guys can recruit or what kind of staff you'll get.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 10:39 am to AUCE05
Same question re: the suits, though.
I'd like to say they're more sensible than we're giving them credit for and there is no way they'd chase a coach just because he's the anti-Saban, but...
I'd like to say they're more sensible than we're giving them credit for and there is no way they'd chase a coach just because he's the anti-Saban, but...
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