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re: If You Had to Pick Between Durkin & Sumrall
Posted on 11/11/25 at 1:50 pm to NewYrkTiger
Posted on 11/11/25 at 1:50 pm to NewYrkTiger
Yeah I really dont care either way. Flip the roster, hire DJ and keep the roster. There's several candidates at there this go around with upside. Whichever way they prefer to win is cool with me.
Posted on 11/11/25 at 1:54 pm to makersmark1
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He may interview 5 people for each of 3 candidates, or 3 people for each of 5 candidates.
Do what now
I didn't hear anything about him interviewing 15. But he very well could call 15 and gauge interest. He's got alot of time, nothing wrong with him being thorough.
Posted on 11/11/25 at 3:25 pm to The_SwAUggford
quote:Irons Puppet bat signal: [ENGAGE] disengaged
Already talked to 7 or 8. Plans to talk to 15 and the hire may drag on until after the playoffs.
Posted on 11/11/25 at 3:25 pm to The_SwAUggford
quote:Irons Puppet bat signal: [ENGAGED] disengaged
Already talked to 7 or 8. Plans to talk to 15 and the hire may drag on until after the playoffs.
Posted on 11/11/25 at 3:33 pm to The_SwAUggford
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Word is Cohen has been very busy. Already talked to 7 or 8. Plans to talk to 15 and the hire may drag on until after the playoffs.
There’s no way it goes that long. I fully expect a decision to be made by Monday/Tuesday after the iron bowl.
Posted on 11/11/25 at 5:46 pm to The_SwAUggford
Flipping the roster would land us in the exact same position in 2028. I guarantee you. We flip the roster and lose even worse next season causing nearly EVERYONE in the fanbase to keep the negative train pumping. That makes it almost Impossible to recruit and build so we'd be spinning our wheels in mud. Naming Durkin coach or even better keeping him as coordinator would keep 80% of the defense (in my opinion). At that point the head coach could at least just focus on getting Coleman, Cobb, and a few recruits to stay. We'd essentially start with the possibility of going 8-4 like we were supposed to THIS year.
Posted on 11/11/25 at 6:01 pm to smuphy72
That's the goal I'm sure. And the person I heard that from could be full of shite. They said Brohm is off the list so I hope they're full of shite. 
Posted on 11/11/25 at 6:04 pm to Johnnycrane
That's why we're calling it "flipping" the roster. Not "gutting" the roster. Some talented dudes will stay, the new coach will bring some talented guys, and we'll get talented guys in the portal. It's a new dawn baby boy.
By the end of your post you even seemed to somewhat agree
By the end of your post you even seemed to somewhat agree
Posted on 11/11/25 at 6:21 pm to DyeHardDylan
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The offense had a great game Saturday night, and the defense shite the bed.
I suspect that Durkin had way too much on his plate last week to give the D the detailed attention he usually does. That may not be ideal for a HC. DJ has some energy though!
Sumrall has some strong defensive chops too. I wonder if they would fit well together?
Posted on 11/11/25 at 6:26 pm to Johnnycrane
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Flipping the roster would land us in the exact same position in 2028. I guarantee you. We flip the roster and lose even worse next season causing nearly EVERYONE in the fanbase to keep the negative train pumping.
This is complete bullshite, and Texas A&M just proved this. When Elko came in they had a mass exodus of almost all of Jimbo's famed super-class recruits (those ~two famous classes where they went crazy with the money they were throwing around). The vast majority of those top players transferred out: Walter Nolan to Ole Miss, Evan Stewart to Oregon, LT Overton to Bama, etc. Despite that, they are undefeated just two years later...because Elko replaced them all through the Portal with his own guys.
The correct coach can lose supposed "talent" and simply replace them through correct evaluation. The thing that most Auburn fans forget is that our current roster is very highly compensated. Why does everyone think that we have had so few departures through all of these lame losing seasons under Freeze? Its because our guys are paid a lot. If they were to hypothetically leave, it would open up a TON of NIL funds to immediately throw at talent from other teams.
A&M pulled Craver from MSU, and Concepcion from NC State. They have a kid with 10.5 sacks this season who Elko pulled from Bowling Green (Cashius Howell). Their leading tackler this season (Marcus Ratcliffe) came from San Diego State.
Fear-mongering over losing players is stupid. At the end of the day, money is the best recruiter. I don't give a shite how much they like DJ Durkin: if you pay any of these kids enough money and sell them on the new vision, you will have a good chance to retain the players you want. If they don't want to stay, then the next guy is waiting in the Portal.
Posted on 11/11/25 at 7:33 pm to Hussss
I would like a fresh start. Plus I would like a HC that has not been fired
Posted on 11/11/25 at 7:55 pm to metafour
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Fear-mongering over losing players is stupid. At the end of the day, money is the best recruiter. I don't give a shite how much they like DJ Durkin: if you pay any of these kids enough money and sell them on the new vision, you will have a good chance to retain the players you want. If they don't want to stay, then the next guy is waiting in the Portal.
The whole post is spot on.
Posted on 11/11/25 at 7:55 pm to Hussss
Durkin here. Sumrall has done well at Troy and Tulane but that doesn't mean he can replicate his success in a highly competitive conference with a very tough schedule. I'm not sure about his staff, which he would probably want to bring with him. Can he recruit the talent level needed for the SEC? He seems like a risky hire to me.
Posted on 11/11/25 at 8:00 pm to LRB1967
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Durkin here. Sumrall has done well at Troy and Tulane but that doesn't mean he can replicate his success in a highly competitive conference with a very tough schedule. I'm not sure about his staff, which he would probably want to bring with him. Can he recruit the talent level needed for the SEC? He seems like a risky hire to me.
I see you said all the negative for Sumrall what are your positives for Durkin? Just asking. I know he is liked by his players & recruits like him. What else makes you think he will be successful?
Posted on 11/11/25 at 8:17 pm to 88TIger
The defense has been good under Durkin, players like him, he can recruit, and has made some good decisions like putting Nix in charge of play calling. There seemed to be more cohesion and a better game plan for the Vanderbilt game than in previous games this season which shows that Durkin can figure out what isn't working and take steps to fix it. Our last 2 coaches didn't seem to be able to do that
Posted on 11/11/25 at 9:02 pm to metafour
A&M wasn't coming off of 5 straight losing seasons. I am not saying we can't keep ANYONE without Durkin, just that these players would explore more options and it would be a harder situation without him. I believe that a new staff would need more time so we'd be talking 2027-28 before we get this level of talent again. Why the F would we wait 3 years when we can bring back what works? A defense that only gave up more than 24 once all season because Pavia went Super Saiyan. These players can get a MOUNTAIN of cash anywhere, but they've stayed thus far because of the bond built with a coach they respect. Mike Elko showed that it was possible, something that I (never freaking denied) BUT is it probable considering the time the BRAND NEW Staff would have before windows open and close, and signing days are finished? Guess we would have to hope. I think the chances of US doing it wouldn't be great unless you bring in some amazing coach(who isn't available right now) OR YOU KEEP A COACH THE PLAYERS WOULD ALREADY BLEED FOR. Durkin isn't my number 1 choice, but I'll take him over some guy From Tulane who would be in over his head just based on fan expectations and negative press. Btw who the hell do we "Simply" replace Cam Coleman with? When we ditch Durkin how likely do you think it'll be that we keep Atkins being that he's was the one coach who believed in him? Since EVERYONE has money, I'm saying it'll be easier to keep the guys we actually want and need due to the relationships are already built here.
This post was edited on 11/11/25 at 9:04 pm
Posted on 11/11/25 at 9:22 pm to Johnnycrane
Some people (fans, admin, coaches etc) still think this is the old way of CFB. It’s not the old way, it’s way closer to the NFL. If you keep recruiting and paying kids because of their ‘stars’ and ‘hype’ you’ll end up like the Cowboys. If you go after talent that fits what you need on and off the field, you will win. Prioritize QBs that are leaders and coaches that can out scheme and teach/develop the competition. It is the way….
Posted on 11/11/25 at 9:33 pm to LRB1967
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has made some good decisions like putting Nix in charge of play calling. There seemed to be more cohesion and a better game plan for the Vanderbilt game than in previous games this season which shows that Durkin can figure out what isn't working and take steps to fix it. Our last 2 coaches didn't seem to be able to do that
got it. Based off of a sample size of one. I expect and Coordinator to be a good recruiter or at least have a couple on his side of the ball.
I disagree with his
quote:as he has a tendency to play soft thus the many 3rd down losses to the opponent. I haven't seen him adjust that much. Of course that could be because the offense didn't hold up.
take steps to fix it
Posted on 11/11/25 at 9:48 pm to AUX3
There is zero evidence to suggest that anything other than amassing pure talent is by far and away the key driver to winning a national championship.
With the on the field / off the field fit stuff - Quinshon Judkins says hi.
Don't let an Indiana playoff appearance as 1 of 12 teams with a weak schedule fool you.
With the on the field / off the field fit stuff - Quinshon Judkins says hi.
Don't let an Indiana playoff appearance as 1 of 12 teams with a weak schedule fool you.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 2:00 pm to Hussss
Can I vote for both? Hire Sumrall while keeping Durkin.
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