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re: Happy trails, Gustavo

Posted on 2/3/26 at 12:08 pm to
Posted by auburn2eugene
Now back in Oneonta Alabama
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 2/3/26 at 12:08 pm to
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excel here and then do it again somewhere else.


He did excel here. He was the catalyst of the 2010 National Championship as OC. Then almost again in 2013 as HC, but that was year 1. Every season after had at least 4 losses. Every. Single. One.

And exactly where else did he excel? He took a rising UCF team that hadn’t had a losing season since Scott Frosts first year and ran them into the dirt. At first UCF thought they had gotten one over on us again by us firing and them hiring Malzahn. By the end of his tenure there, they wanted him gone more than we did. So much so he quit, and took a major demotion to become FSUs OC.

So I’m curious where else he excelled after Auburn? We must have very different definitions of the word excelled.
Posted by auburn2eugene
Now back in Oneonta Alabama
Member since Jan 2013
1318 posts
Posted on 2/3/26 at 12:15 pm to
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keep dual threat QBs active in his vision


I will never forget nor forgive Gus for recruiting Tyler Queen over Lamar Jackson.

What could have been…
Posted by jt33
Member since Aug 2017
5483 posts
Posted on 2/3/26 at 12:18 pm to
People will disagree with me and that's fine, but for my money he's the best coach in school history and only Pat Dye is on the conversation with him. Had to deal with the modern game and players, Saban at Bama, UGA having their best years ever and he was still right there fighting with them and giving them hell every year... any other coach would have gotten eaten alive.

Also think its pretty telling that so many former players from different schools have had all good things to say about him.. In a dirty business Gus was always first class.

He will probably never get the credit he fully deserves.. Modern offenses started from him and his HS days. HIs run concepts and the way he introduced the read on those players changed everything, and through the years passing concepts have been added to make it what it is currently. A lot of people give Kyle Shanahan and Sean McVay the credit, but the core of it started with Gustav Malzahn and his book.

He has a way bigger and better coaching tree than most realize too.. I didn't realize Brennan Marion got his start under Gus until yesterday.

Some of my best sports memories are because him and Kristi came to Auburn. Will forever be proud he was our coach.
Posted by jt33
Member since Aug 2017
5483 posts
Posted on 2/3/26 at 12:21 pm to
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And exactly where else did he excel? He took a rising UCF team that hadn’t had a losing season since Scott Frosts first year and ran them into the dirt. At first UCF thought they had gotten one over on us again by us firing and them hiring Malzahn. By the end of his tenure there, they wanted him gone more than we did. So much so he quit, and took a major demotion to become FSUs OC
He recruited the best classes in UCF history and put players in the NFL. He was not a failure and he didn't run them into the dirt. They rehired Scott Frost.. hows that working out?

He didn't quit or take a demotion either. He was going to retire then, but he's close with Norvell and he convinced Gus to come back and be OC with less responsibility.

At least get the facts right if you're going to talk about it.
Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
4593 posts
Posted on 2/3/26 at 12:35 pm to
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He recruited the best classes in UCF history and put players in the NFL. He was not a failure and he didn't run them into the dirt.


Sounds like you need to get the facts right. He inherited a winning program with an explosive offense, and by his 3rd and 4th season they were a losing team and getting worse. 50% of his seasons at UCF were losing seasons. That is by definition a failure, considering that he didn't inherit a losing program. It means the program declined under him, which is absolutely what happened.

Its also hilarious how his 3rd/4th seasons looked almost identical to the tail end of his Auburn tenure: UCF was a defense-driven team with an ugly offense that could only try to play the ball possession game. The games they did win were all generally slop-fests. He inherited a team that was humming to the tune of 40+ PPG scored.

And he was going to retire because he was failing, and UCF fans hated his product. He wasn't thinking of retiring because things were going too well at UCF.
This post was edited on 2/3/26 at 12:37 pm
Posted by mckibaj
Member since Nov 2010
8298 posts
Posted on 2/3/26 at 1:15 pm to
Posted by jt33
Member since Aug 2017
5483 posts
Posted on 2/3/26 at 1:22 pm to
Meta, I didn't say it was a gigantic success, that would be wrong, but to call it a failure is also wrong.
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
70479 posts
Posted on 2/3/26 at 6:31 pm to
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People will disagree with me and that's fine, but for my money he's the best coach in school history and only Pat Dye is on the conversation with him. Had to deal with the modern game and players, Saban at Bama, UGA having their best years ever and he was still right there fighting with them and giving them hell every year... any other coach would have gotten eaten alive.



I said this many many times but muh offensive linemen recruiting



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He will probably never get the credit he fully deserves..


He wont from a lot of people but I think he deserves a lot. His tenure at AU was way different than anyone elses. He faced some pretty tough things and still kept Auburn relevant. Plus, he was a great guy



Hope he enjoys his time off and I also hope the rumors of his bad health are just that. I find it hard to believe that guy is just going to sit around and do nothing. We will see where he ends up


Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
23038 posts
Posted on 2/3/26 at 6:39 pm to
I appreciate the way he was there for Rod Bramblett's children after their parents were killed.
Posted by Fearless_and_True
Steel City
Member since Oct 2017
2221 posts
Posted on 2/3/26 at 6:42 pm to
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I’m curious where else he excelled after Auburn?


I wish he could stay 1 more year @ FSU and ride off in the sunset bashing Bammer in Tuscaloosa.

Would be icing on the cake
This post was edited on 2/3/26 at 6:56 pm
Posted by Fearless_and_True
Steel City
Member since Oct 2017
2221 posts
Posted on 2/3/26 at 6:47 pm to
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UGA having their best years ever and he was still right there fighting with them and giving them hell every year... any other coach would have gotten eaten alive.




How many times did Gustov beat UGA in his HC tenure?? 2?

And that was a fluke with the UGA defenders not batting the ball down. Huge blown lead, shouldn’t even been in that position.
This post was edited on 2/3/26 at 6:55 pm
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
51759 posts
Posted on 2/3/26 at 7:24 pm to
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to deal with the modern game and players, Saban at Bama, UGA having their best years ever and he was still right there fighting with them and giving them hell every year... any other coach would have gotten eaten alive.

He might have score one offensive TD combined against the Georgia teams of 2014, 2015, and 2016.

Google those teams
This post was edited on 2/3/26 at 7:25 pm
Posted by jt33
Member since Aug 2017
5483 posts
Posted on 2/3/26 at 8:17 pm to
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I said this many many times but muh offensive linemen recruiting
Trey Hill, Broderick Jones, and Amaris Mims will forever get a giant middle finger from me for the stuff they pulled.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
51759 posts
Posted on 2/3/26 at 8:22 pm to
You mean pick Georgia?

And go NFL...

What are you talking about
Posted by Fearless and True
N Carolina
Member since Aug 2022
1704 posts
Posted on 2/4/26 at 6:19 am to
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4 or 5 five loss seasons

We are looking up at that kind of record since Gus left.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
51759 posts
Posted on 2/4/26 at 6:24 am to
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We are looking up at that kind of record since Gus left.

And we fired those coaches. That only proves his replacement was off the mark. That doesn't mean 8-5 is satisfactory.
Posted by jvilletiger25
jacksonville, fl
Member since Jan 2014
20854 posts
Posted on 2/4/26 at 7:10 am to
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And we fired those coaches. That only proves his replacement was off the mark. That doesn't mean 8-5 is satisfactory.


Exactly. GusShortBus was mediocre and revisionists want people to forget his abysmal record against our biggest rivals. He is a good dude, and I wish him well in retirement however.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
29789 posts
Posted on 2/4/26 at 7:20 am to
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And exactly where else did he excel?


FSU had the top rated O in the ACC this past season.

Gus was a hell of a coach. His program had grown stale here, but he did some amazing things while at Auburn. I will forever be grateful for the enjoyment he brought Auburn fans on many a Saturday..........and one glorious Monday night.
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