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re: Freeze presser 9/30
Posted on 9/30/24 at 3:58 pm to StringedInstruments
Posted on 9/30/24 at 3:58 pm to StringedInstruments
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They have to. It's one thing to rebuild. In a rebuild, you see slow progression towards a goal. A vision is laid out, and you see the pieces fall together over time.
Rebuilds don’t all go the same way.
Drinkwitz at Mizzou:
5-5
6-7
6-7
11-2
We’re in year 2. I’m as frustrated as anybody but you can’t fire Freeze this year. We’ll be in the gutter for the foreseeable future if we do.
This post was edited on 9/30/24 at 4:00 pm
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Posted on 9/30/24 at 4:09 pm to FlyDownTheField
Top 15 talent by what metric?
We have plenty of outstanding freshmen, but they are a bunch of 18 year olds.
I assure you our Senior-Junior-Sophomores do not equal anywhere close to top 15 talent or depth.
We have plenty of outstanding freshmen, but they are a bunch of 18 year olds.
I assure you our Senior-Junior-Sophomores do not equal anywhere close to top 15 talent or depth.
Posted on 9/30/24 at 4:19 pm to Weagle25
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We’re in year 2. I’m as frustrated as anybody but you can’t fire Freeze this year. We’ll be in the gutter for the foreseeable future if we do.
Bingo. It sucks we are where we are, but we have to ride it out. With average QB play this year, everyone would be saying we are on track. Unfortunately, we are getting very poor QB play when it comes to turnovers (and some blame can be put on others in regards to this). The rest of the team has made very good strides. Lots of growth still needed but the interceptions have really just fricked everything.
This post was edited on 9/30/24 at 4:48 pm
Posted on 9/30/24 at 4:46 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
Agree. I just can't help to think there's got to be a way to help the qb. I've watched several videos with coaches explaining the rpo and they all say the same thing. It can be run with a average offensive line and a decent qb. They just have to have the ability to read the defense. I keep asking about helmet coms and having them look to the sideline for adjustments. There should be a guy with a neon sign or signal flares helping the qb an receiver get on the same sheet of music if there's a check off. There's got to be a way to signal the play/adjustments to the correct personnel from the sidelines
Posted on 9/30/24 at 6:05 pm to Blueline379
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he put this loss on the coaching.
So, he forgot how to coach? As did his assistants?
Weak.
Sounds like he's heard from folks that blaming players is bad for recruiting and NIL branding.
Either way, I'd think that an experienced coach with his resume would have caught on by now.
Posted on 9/30/24 at 6:09 pm to Blueline379
The most mind boggling thing to me this year is we have helmet comms and still are putrid on offense. I mean the QB does not even have to turn around and interpret the bs signs of a tiger humping an eagle or whatever… you can have a coach in your ear telling you the play to run and an alternate if the defense shifts after the comms are cut off. How fricking hard can that make things? I was hoping for a two step progression this year, we first look competent and then look competitive. We are just plain incompetent right now, players coaches, water girls everyone…
This post was edited on 9/30/24 at 6:10 pm
Posted on 9/30/24 at 6:24 pm to BrounHaller
The read on that INT was so bad. Setting aside if the play should have even been called in the first place, just looking how the defense was aligned, he went to the wrong receiver. The safety was playing up tight, right where the slant would be going. Even if the LB hadn’t dropped, he’d have been throwing into double coverage. Just an awful read. There were two 1v1’s to the left. Ball should have gone that way from the rip. Now, I still think we should have run the ball or done a draw or something, but the play had a first down available and we didn’t execute.
Posted on 9/30/24 at 6:57 pm to jvilletiger25
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This team lost its entire senior class with the exception of Hunter, and Freeze had to supplement with non P4 players. I don’t know how anyone can say this team is where it needs to be talent and experience wise right now. Saturday, the main ones making plays besides KLS and Hunter were almost all freshmen or sophomores.
This is nonsense.
What non P4 transfers did we supplement with? Blidi came from Indiana, Mausi Jr. came from Duke (which was winning games under Elko, a great defensive coach), Thompson came from Texas, Raikes came from A&M, Percy Lewis came from MSU, Lambert-Smith obviously came from Penn State. Yes Robert Lewis came from Georgia State or Southern, but he is more experienced than Jay Fair who he replaced. All of these transfers are Seniors who are "experienced".
It was not "just KLS and Hunter" who made plays from the upper-classmen. McCleod's 4th down sack on their QB should have led to the game being put away. Luke Deal scored a TD. The OL, which fields 4 Seniors, was blocking well for 95% of the game - basically up until the very end when we blew the lead. Fairweather had 71 yards receiving. Asante and Keys both made multiple stops in a game where our defense dominated all but 2 plays. The last is the most obvious: Senior QB Peyton Thorne was torching their strong defense up until the point where Freeze refused to just start running the football and ending the game.
No, this team does not have the talent to stack up with Georgia or Bama or Texas. Nobody is talking about that. We are talking about these first 5 games, and we have been legitimately more talented than every team we have lost to. Yes, even Oklahoma due to their injuries. Oklahoma started a true freshman QB (a 3-star) and basically their 2nd and 3rd string WR's. They had multiple other starters out as well. We were clearly more talented, as evidenced by the fact that we dominated for 90% of the game and the team stats were completely lopsided. Neither Arkansas nor Cal had more talent than us - this is proven by the fact that we were -5 in turnovers against Cal and ONLY lost by 7, and were -3 against Arkansas and only lost by 10. Cal is literally the only team that shite-tier FSU has beaten, and we lost to them at home. In actuality, we beat both of those two teams on the road last year with "less talent" than we have this year. We lost because we blew those games, just like we blew the Oklahoma game.
And that is the problem: we are 2-3 with 3 blown games that we should have won. Save me the talent BS excuse. Arkansas beat us with a transfer QB who couldn't hold onto the job at Boise State. Through 5 games Taylen Green has 5 passing TD's, 5 INT's, and is completing 54% of his passes. This is basically Robby Ashford.
Posted on 9/30/24 at 7:16 pm to metafour
Winning solves all. Just start winning the games we are supposed to. That’s not to much to ask.
You hang on somehow this past weekend and no one gives a shite what Freeze says in the pressers.
You hang on somehow this past weekend and no one gives a shite what Freeze says in the pressers.
Posted on 9/30/24 at 7:19 pm to CorchJay
Yep. Winning cures all wounds.
Posted on 9/30/24 at 7:21 pm to metafour
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What non P4 transfers did we supplement with?
Rivaldo - FIU
Wade - Tulsa
Muskrat - Tulsa
Crawford - Arkansas State
And most the P4 guys are ones that couldn’t start at their previous school.
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Luke Deal scored a TD.
Only his 2nd ever in 6 years. He also sucked bad on perimeter blocking.
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We are talking about these first 5 games, and we have been legitimately more talented than every team we have lost to. Yes, even Oklahoma due to their injuries.
More talented but definitely more younger than all of them. And yeah, Oklahoma had injuries on offense, but their defense was not.
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Arkansas beat us with a transfer QB who couldn't hold onto the job at Boise State.
And we have a QB that couldn’t hold onto the job at MSU.
Posted on 9/30/24 at 7:27 pm to jvilletiger25
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And we have a QB that couldn’t hold onto the job at MSU.
Untrue
Posted on 9/30/24 at 7:29 pm to CorchJay
You’ve stated that bull shite lie forever.
If so post a source that he was or lost the job.
If so post a source that he was or lost the job.
Posted on 9/30/24 at 7:36 pm to BrounHaller
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we have helmet comms
My ideal convo late in that game:
Freeze: “Peyton let’s run the ball.”
Posted on 9/30/24 at 7:38 pm to makersmark1
Posted on 9/30/24 at 7:42 pm to JTW0036
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The last time we had a top 10 recruiting class was 2020 and damn near everyone from that class transferred out...
27 guys are left……. 27
Posted on 9/30/24 at 7:47 pm to Fearless_and_True
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27 guys are left……. 27
I count 3 from 2020still at Auburn.
Jeremiah Wright
Brandon Frazier
Zykevious Walker
Hunter is the only one remaining from the '21 class. That's 4 dudes out of 45 guys from 2 years of recruiting still on the team. 27 signed in '20 and 18 in '21.
This post was edited on 9/30/24 at 7:50 pm
Posted on 9/30/24 at 7:48 pm to jvilletiger25
Dear god. Rivaldo was one of the top ranked TE's in his transfer class. Wade is a legitimate starter that we had to claw and fight against USC (WEST) for. We had to spend real NIL money to get Wade.
Who gives a shite about Muskrat? He isn't a starter. Neither is Crawford.
You made the claim that nobody else "made plays". Luke Deal accounted for 6 points - the same amount as Malcolm Simmons.
Offensively, only Cam Coleman plays significant snaps from the freshmen. Simmons actually only played 8 snaps. The QB, OL, RB, WR's, and TE's are majority all Seniors. We are not "inexperienced".
On defense Riddick, Kam Harris, and Jalyn Crawford played snaps and played well, but you are high as shite if you think that those are the only guys who "made plays" against Oklahoma in a game where we shut their offense down. Even career disappointment Zeke Walker had multiple tackles including a TFL.
I don't give a shite if Jerrin Thompson can't start on Top 3 ranked Texas. We are talking about losing to Cal at home. Again, which of Cal, Arkansas, or Oklahoma (with their absurd amount of players out due to injury) were "more talented" than us? We slapped Arkansas 48-10 on the road last season, with a worse team than we have this year.
By the way, take a look at Top 10 ranked Missouri's transfer class from last season. They brought in players from: Appy State, Georgia State, Murray State, New Mexico State, Southern University, SMU, and South Alabama. That is 7 transfers from non-P4 schools, all in ONE class. Lane at Ole Miss took guys from FAU, Southern Miss, South Alabama, North Texas, Jacksonville State, Georgia State, Southern Illinois, Utah State, and UTSA. That is 9 non P4 transfers.
This idea that non P4 transfers don't count for anything as if everyone else is only landing transfers from NFL teams is pure bullshite. You can go down the list - Kentucky had 3 non-P4 transfers last class. Tennessee had 4.
Who gives a shite about Muskrat? He isn't a starter. Neither is Crawford.
You made the claim that nobody else "made plays". Luke Deal accounted for 6 points - the same amount as Malcolm Simmons.
Offensively, only Cam Coleman plays significant snaps from the freshmen. Simmons actually only played 8 snaps. The QB, OL, RB, WR's, and TE's are majority all Seniors. We are not "inexperienced".
On defense Riddick, Kam Harris, and Jalyn Crawford played snaps and played well, but you are high as shite if you think that those are the only guys who "made plays" against Oklahoma in a game where we shut their offense down. Even career disappointment Zeke Walker had multiple tackles including a TFL.
I don't give a shite if Jerrin Thompson can't start on Top 3 ranked Texas. We are talking about losing to Cal at home. Again, which of Cal, Arkansas, or Oklahoma (with their absurd amount of players out due to injury) were "more talented" than us? We slapped Arkansas 48-10 on the road last season, with a worse team than we have this year.
By the way, take a look at Top 10 ranked Missouri's transfer class from last season. They brought in players from: Appy State, Georgia State, Murray State, New Mexico State, Southern University, SMU, and South Alabama. That is 7 transfers from non-P4 schools, all in ONE class. Lane at Ole Miss took guys from FAU, Southern Miss, South Alabama, North Texas, Jacksonville State, Georgia State, Southern Illinois, Utah State, and UTSA. That is 9 non P4 transfers.
This idea that non P4 transfers don't count for anything as if everyone else is only landing transfers from NFL teams is pure bullshite. You can go down the list - Kentucky had 3 non-P4 transfers last class. Tennessee had 4.
This post was edited on 9/30/24 at 7:51 pm
Posted on 9/30/24 at 7:55 pm to IAmNERD
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I count 3 from 2020still at Auburn. Jeremiah Wright Brandon Frazier Zykevious Walker Hunter is the only one remaining from the '21 class. That's 4 dudes out of 45 guys from 2 years of recruiting still on the team. 27 signed in '20 and 18 in '21.
I read the stat wrong..
28 left since CHF was hired of the 85 roster! He’s building us back from the depths of Lucifer
Posted on 9/30/24 at 8:18 pm to metafour
quote:so either we're more talented or we out coached them. Pick your sunshine negas.
We were clearly more talented, as evidenced by the fact that we dominated for 90% of the game and the team stats were completely
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