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Posted on 10/5/25 at 9:55 am to jvilletiger25
Posted on 10/5/25 at 9:55 am to jvilletiger25
I'll say this. All of these modern offense coaches look terrible. You got Miami playing defense and running an old run first offense with a big OL, and they have a shot.
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Posted on 10/5/25 at 11:46 am to AUCE05
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I'll say this. All of these modern offense coaches look terrible. You got Miami playing defense and running an old run first offense with a big OL, and they have a shot.
Miami does not run an "old run first offense". They run a modified Air Raid offense with a higher emphasis on power spread running. Their OC (Shannon Dawson) is from the Dana Holgorsen coaching tree, having been with him at both West Virginia and Houston.
Posted on 10/5/25 at 12:01 pm to AU86
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I agree. If you take a long look at Bucky's record at Ole Miss it is not that impressive.
He was an 8-10 win coach at Ole Miss who was seemingly improving every year before the off-field implosion in his final year.. The logic of the hire was that he would be able to at least return Auburn to that standard, if not gain another win or so with more resources (higher staff payroll, more money for recruiting).
Again, that was the "logic". Keep in mind that he won 10 games at both Arkansas State and Liberty as well, with 8 wins being his normal "baseline" over his career (and now he seemingly can't win more than 6, even with elite talent). To pretend that he didn't have a track record is revisionist history. He was more "proven" than most of the coaches that Auburn has hired in its history. Tuberville was a ~6 win coach at Ole Miss and never won more than 8 games in 4 seasons there.
There should have been more scrutiny placed on the fact that apart from one season, his Liberty teams lost a lot of bad games (ending on a 3 game losing streak under him), which was the pattern at Ole Miss too. There should have also been more scrutiny placed on the fact that his offense is now outdated and clearly hasn't evolved at all from ~10 years ago when he was at Ole Miss.
And that's why the whole "hire a proven coach" idea is very often fools gold, except for the very elite minority. It is very difficult for most head coaches to stay current with the changes in the meta of college football - especially if they are an offensive guy who runs a "system", and success at this level requires extreme hunger/focus, which also typically wanes over the years due to the grueling nature of the job. Add these two factors together, and it means that a lot of the time you are just catching the "proven coach" on the down-turn right before the wheels quickly come off.
Posted on 10/5/25 at 9:10 pm to metafour
I have 0.00% confidence that the PTB will hire the right coach. They will still make excuses, they will still think
They are the smartest men in the room regarding football coaches. And they will hire another failure. I think we are really the new Vandy/Kentucky/Miss St for the next 20 years. It sickens me.
They are the smartest men in the room regarding football coaches. And they will hire another failure. I think we are really the new Vandy/Kentucky/Miss St for the next 20 years. It sickens me.
Posted on 10/6/25 at 8:06 am to wareaglepete
Tell Tuberville when he loses the election, we have a job for him.
Rumors about Urban. No way in hell. Don’t want a coach that sits with his offensive line and cries with them.
Rumors about Urban. No way in hell. Don’t want a coach that sits with his offensive line and cries with them.
Posted on 10/6/25 at 8:24 am to bluedragon
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Tell Tuberville when he loses the election, we have a job for him.
Tubs doesn't even have to campaign. Just his name on the ballot will get him elected as the Guv.
Posted on 10/6/25 at 3:38 pm to wareaglepete
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I have 0.00% confidence that the PTB will hire the right coach.
Freeze looks like he is depressed on the sideline. He has no fire in his belly.
Posted on 10/6/25 at 4:38 pm to metafour
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To pretend that he didn't have a track record is revisionist history.
His record at Ole Miss is 6-18.
Revisionist history would be counting the 33 VACATED wins.
You can pretend he was some superstar coach, but it's only Auburn fans trying to convince other Auburn fans he was something special. No other school wanted him or thought he was the messiah. He'd probably still be rotting at Liberty if not for some morons with a checkbook & 2 upsets over bama.
His record at Auburn, without anything vacated, is 14-16.
Can we get a revisionist future?
Posted on 10/6/25 at 4:43 pm to wareaglepete
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I have 0.00% confidence that the PTB will hire the right coach.
Sadly, this is the case. But they're not far off from many of the AU fans here or on Twitter. Dabo, Muschamp, Mullen, Durkin, Gus, or any former Auburn player...it's the AU short list.
Posted on 10/6/25 at 5:55 pm to slacker130
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His record at Ole Miss is 6-18.
Revisionist history would be counting the 33 VACATED wins.
You can pretend he was some superstar coach, but it's only Auburn fans trying to convince other Auburn fans he was something special. No other school wanted him or thought he was the messiah. He'd probably still be rotting at Liberty if not for some morons with a checkbook & 2 upsets over bama.
1) The vacated wins were still games that were won. No, I don't care that he bought players. They vacated wins for something that everyone else in the SEC was doing as well (and what is now legal). What, we had no paid players on our rosters during those years LOL? After it became obvious that he could no longer be employed, the SEC decided to conveniently make an example of their program.
2) You seem emotional. I never proclaimed that he was a "coaching superstar", nor did I make the claim that anyone else wanted him when we hired him - please stick to the discussion. I claimed that he had a track-record of results, which he absolutely did. I then explained what the logic of the hire was for those that believed that this would work for Auburn. Notice how I never interjected myself into the discussion or claimed that this was MY belief.
Pretending that he didn't win 8, 9, and then 10 games at Ole Miss after inheriting a program that won just 2 games the season before he got there is next level dumb. Those wins happened, dumbass. It is revisionist history to pretend that they didn't.
Posted on 10/6/25 at 6:38 pm to metafour
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Those wins happened, dumbass. It is revisionist history to pretend that they didn't.
I just stated facts, those wins were vacated. If you would like to count those wins, go ahead, print the shirts. I certainly do not want a string of Auburn success vacated. The stains left seem to tarnish a program far longer than the vacated wins were celebrated. Hell, the Eric Ramsey shite is still haunting AU.
I didn't mean to imply that you thought he was a "superstar coach," guess I was going for the collective you. However, your post sure sounds like you were pitching him as a homerun hire.
If you think was a 8-10 win guy throughout his career, seems like you should be happy he's at Auburn. Sounds like we got us a winner.
I do agree with your premise about catching a proven coach, unless I read it wrong, which could have happened, had some beers @ lunch and just kept going. The "proven head coach" seems like fool's errand & it's rarely a success story. Seems like the most recent recipe for success is hiring a coordinator experiencing success, under a proven HC and system & hope you chose wisely.
Posted on 10/6/25 at 6:39 pm to slacker130
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Muschamp
At least Muschamp would be vocal and profane.
Posted on 10/6/25 at 11:15 pm to AUCE05
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You got Miami playing defense and running an old run first offense with a big OL, and they have a shot.
Maybe you should look up their OC Shannon Dawson. He first learned the Air Raid under Hal Mume @ SE Lousiana in 2004...I guess if you are less than 25...you could consider Hal's Air Raid as old...
Posted on 10/6/25 at 11:50 pm to 88TIger
Just throwing another name out there.. Brian Hartline. And yes I should be sleeping
Posted on 10/7/25 at 11:17 am to jt33
Chizick he’s not doing anything.
Posted on 10/10/25 at 8:15 pm to bluedragon
Would like to have Eric Morris as our OC/QB coach. he has coached & recruited some good ones. I don't think he will drop from HC to OC.
He needs a better DC though...
They are getting their butt kicked tonight by USF...
He needs a better DC though...
They are getting their butt kicked tonight by USF...
This post was edited on 10/10/25 at 9:44 pm
Posted on 10/11/25 at 11:42 am to 88TIger
Brent Key is showing promise. He has brought toughness and to that team, especially along the LoS.
Posted on 10/11/25 at 12:58 pm to 88TIger
quote:Golesh seems destined for bigger things
They are getting their butt kicked tonight by USF...
Posted on 10/11/25 at 2:39 pm to cadillacattack
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Brent Key is showing promise. He has brought toughness and to that team, especially along the LoS.
I'd like to see how he looks when Haynes King leaves.
Posted on 10/11/25 at 5:54 pm to AUveritas
Deion is about to hand Matt Campbell an L
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