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re: Carlton Davis not practicing

Posted on 12/28/17 at 8:33 pm to
Posted by bawbarn
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Posted on 12/28/17 at 8:33 pm to
I don't know. I see it both ways. If I'm one bad cut from losing out on millions, it would make me think twice.
Posted by bawbarn
Member since Jul 2012
3695 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 8:34 pm to
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We can only bring so many players correct?


I feel like we can take everyone, so I doubt he's taking someone's "spot".
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 12/28/17 at 8:46 pm to
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We can only bring so many players correct?


That's only for SEC/conf games.

Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 12/28/17 at 9:03 pm to
I'm sure most here would do the same, but we don't know that is what's happening here. Davis played his heart out for Auburn for three years. I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt on this one.

Posted by PrisonMike
Member since Jan 2015
1528 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 9:09 pm to
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LanierSpots
quote:

Sorry but I am not wired that way


Do you have any eligibility left?

I'm not sure they have a helmet big enough, but if your body is willing...
Posted by PubeCrab
Member since May 2014
830 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 11:19 pm to
Have any of you considered that he may actually have the flu?
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 12/29/17 at 1:29 am to
Ummmmm, I quoted that he was out sick, or did you miss that?

Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
61629 posts
Posted on 12/29/17 at 6:34 am to
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Have any of you considered that he may actually have the flu?


yea, it appears he is sick or slightly injured. The discussion was more based on a "what if". Which is what was thought from the beginning. If he is sick or injured, there is no question.




Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 12/29/17 at 8:05 am to
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I don't care if he sits out. If I got a round 1 grade I wouldn't play in a non playoff game.



This right here all day long.


I'm sorry guys, but the point of college is to prepare yourself for a good paying job. Blowing your knee out in a meaningless game before a million dollar job interview isn't in anyone's best interests.
Posted by TheJones
Member since Nov 2009
33332 posts
Posted on 12/29/17 at 10:35 am to
Baker Mayfield didn’t practice (illness) aswell
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 12/29/17 at 9:29 pm to
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Blowing your knee out in a meaningless game before a million dollar job interview isn't in anyone's best interests.
And yet Bo played in the 1986 Cotton Bowl, when he'd already won the Heisman and was guaranteed to be the #1 pick in the draft.

Things change, I guess.
This post was edited on 12/29/17 at 9:30 pm
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
61629 posts
Posted on 12/30/17 at 5:11 am to
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And yet Bo played in the 1986 Cotton Bowl, when he'd already won the Heisman and was guaranteed to be the #1 pick in the draft.

Things change, I guess.



A lot of problems can come from players sitting out to keep from getting hurt. Who decided who gets to sit out and who should play? What is going to happen when 10 starters from each team want to sit out?

I get the "business decision" part of it but whats next. Sitting out the last 5 games of the season because Mel Kiper puts you on top of his big board mid season?
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
10935 posts
Posted on 12/30/17 at 7:49 am to
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I don't care if he sits out. If I got a round 1 grade I wouldn't play in a non playoff game.




This right here all day long.


I'm sorry guys, but the point of college is to prepare yourself for a good paying job. Blowing your knee out in a meaningless game before a million dollar job interview isn't in anyone's best interests.
Fair enough, but shouldn't he then replay a 12-13th of what it cost to prepare him for that year? The school has made an investment as well.
Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
38012 posts
Posted on 12/30/17 at 9:04 am to
So your view is that, in base value, the school is providing more value to the athlete in their college careers rather than the athlete providing more value to the school? And that the athlete in this case should owe the school a refund?

God in heaven... have you ever seen the publically published balance sheets for major football programs and how much money they make?

Lets say you own your own business and make your own product. You’re not filthy rich, but you do well and enjoy your work, even though you’re working your arse off. Now a major corporation comes in and offers you enough money to set you and your entire family for life. Your days if constant nose to the grindstone could be over. But you’re pretty sure this corporation is likely to produce cheap mass produced crap with your products name on it and that will be a disappointment to your loyal customers.

Are you going to sell and cash in on your idea and hard work anyway?

You’re damned right you are.

Utter double standards and hypocrisy in this thread.
Posted by JamalSanders
On a boat
Member since Jul 2015
12135 posts
Posted on 12/30/17 at 9:18 am to
SAs are paid for their work. They might be underpaid, but they agree to the pay when they take the job.
Posted by Tigerman97
Member since Jun 2014
10354 posts
Posted on 12/30/17 at 9:58 am to
IMO, for games that don't matter 1st round picks sitting wouldn't bother me. If you aren't a guaranteed 1st round pick why wouldn't you being doing everything possible to move yourself up the board? After all it takes a competitors mindset to succeed at the next level...talent, no matter how talented you are will only take you so far.

I am of the opinion Carlton did something at halftime of the SECCG and is technically suspended from the bowl game. I don't know if he was coming back but at this point I assume he is gone for sure because of the suspension.

Gus' seems to try to protect these kids futures even when they screw up on the team. Didn't he let Duke come to pro day or somebody he'd booted?
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
61629 posts
Posted on 12/30/17 at 12:23 pm to
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God in heaven... have you ever seen the publically published balance sheets for major football programs and how much money they make?


So how do we determine which player is bringing in that money to the school? With this thinking, its OK for Carlton Davis to sit out because he has earned the school more money than we have paid him but Wad Christopher type players don't have that chance because they haven't? How do we determine which player should be able to sit out anytime they want?

You guys are never going to be able to justify a player sitting out a game at will. If he is healthy, he should play. He signed a scholarship to play for Auburn and he should do that as long as he is a active member of the program. If he don't want to play, he should quit the team and lose the benefits of being a part of it.

If they win the game and get a ring for it, does he get one?
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
61629 posts
Posted on 12/30/17 at 12:23 pm to
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IMO, for games that don't matter


Sorry Tigerman but all games are important

Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
10935 posts
Posted on 12/30/17 at 12:48 pm to
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Utter double standards and hypocrisy in this thread.


Nice story, sign me up

However it's not a relative tale. You've describing a single owner businessman making the sell of his life. While this is more the tale of a salaried, exempt, employee not finishing up a job/task for which he's been already paid.

Let's say you're selling fishing lures and doing pretty good. You have a guy tying a thousand lures up at his house, he's been paid, and before he's finished you sell. Now do you think this guy shouldn't be expected to finish the order? Or do you think because the size of the balance sheet changed he can now go market this product elsewhere for more money?

Mister Davis being under paid is not the issue.

As for going to college for preparation, in order to succeed. Isn't part of that learning about not taking the money and running. Isn't it about understanding the company-employee relationship. And it's about understanding a signed deal comes with certain obligations which require re-negotiating, if you decide it's in your best interest to end the deal, cut-n-run, or lay down before done.
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
61629 posts
Posted on 12/30/17 at 12:52 pm to
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Let's say you're selling fishing lures and doing pretty good.


I like where this is going


Let me know when we get to the part where you sell the company and move to the Caribbean...
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