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Can we fire a 7-3 Gus?
Posted on 11/29/20 at 4:50 pm
Posted on 11/29/20 at 4:50 pm
The Slumpbusters of Texas A3M come to town at the perfect time. Then we close with a pitiful Moo St team who has lost 18 scholarship players to the transfer portal since the beginning of the season. We should win both those games. So what do we do?
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Posted on 11/29/20 at 4:51 pm to CaptainBrannigan
What was UGAs record when they fired Mark R?
or LSU's when they fired Les Miles
or LSU's when they fired Les Miles
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Posted on 11/29/20 at 4:52 pm to CaptainBrannigan
If we want to be the next Tennessee, sure. Why would a coach worth his salt want to come to a place that fires a coach after 7-3 in an all-SEC schedule?
Posted on 11/29/20 at 4:54 pm to CaptainBrannigan
You know it will happen. Will probably blow MSU out.
ETA
Those 7 Gus fanboys will rush in here. Lanier will be waving his Trooper Taylor towel. Our one idiot will talk about back door in into the CFB playoff.
ETA
Those 7 Gus fanboys will rush in here. Lanier will be waving his Trooper Taylor towel. Our one idiot will talk about back door in into the CFB playoff.
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Posted on 11/29/20 at 4:55 pm to AUCE05
Bigger question will we fire a 6-4 coach. 5-5 and he is gone.
Posted on 11/29/20 at 4:57 pm to AUTubaHerd
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Why would a coach worth his salt want to come to a place that fires a coach after 7-3 in an all-SEC schedule?
You dont think all but 4 coaches in America want to be the 5th highest paid coach?
Posted on 11/29/20 at 4:59 pm to AUTubaHerd
quote:This is what cowardice sounds like. Too scared to make a change for fear of the unexpected
If we want to be the next Tennessee, sure. Why would a coach worth his salt want to come to a place that fires a coach after 7-3 in an all-SEC schedule?
Posted on 11/29/20 at 5:00 pm to CaptainBrannigan
These threads are for nothing, unfortunately.
90% chance he's fine even at 5-5. He's 100% safe at 6-4 and 1/3 of the fanbase will want him extended if he beats A&M.
90% chance he's fine even at 5-5. He's 100% safe at 6-4 and 1/3 of the fanbase will want him extended if he beats A&M.
Posted on 11/29/20 at 5:04 pm to CaptainBrannigan
Gus isn’t getting fired this year no matter what.
Posted on 11/29/20 at 5:17 pm to ChexMix
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This is what cowardice sounds like. Too scared to make a change for fear of the unexpected
I’m sure that’s what Tennessee said before firing Fulmer and then being unable to hire a quality coach for over a decade. If you could just line up some dollars and hire a championship coach, everyone would. We really need to up our bagman game.
Posted on 11/29/20 at 5:29 pm to AUTubaHerd
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I’m sure that’s what Tennessee said before firing Fulmer and then being unable to hire a quality coach for over a decade. If you could just line up some dollars and hire a championship coach, everyone would. We really need to up our bagman game.
In fairness, UT hired an attorney to coach football in Derek Dooley (coming off a 4-8 season at La Tech), noted high-character individual Lane Kiffin, a cringey gimmick clown in Butch Jones (who nonetheless won 9 games twice), tried to hire a good-but-sociopathic Greg Schiano before settling on a trashball in Jeremy Pruitt.
We have the benefit of hindsight for all of these, but all of these hires had glaring flaws from the outset. It's been a complete and utter shitshow, 90% of their own making.
So I think the question is less about the difficulty in replacing Gus Malzahn, and more about whether decision makers at Auburn are capable of accomplishing this straightforward task with the tiniest bit of competence it would take to exceed Tennessee. Admittedly, that may be a bigger ask than we'd all like it to be, based on our current leadership.
Posted on 11/29/20 at 7:02 pm to Pettifogger
Keep in mind that two of those wins came on the back of blown, game-changing call from the officials, and you could argue that a third (UT) turned on luck with a 6 point swing in two missed field goals and a 14 point swing on the 100 yard pick 6...they sure outplayed us. While a win is a win and your record is your record, I don't think it's unfair to consider the above in evaluating job performance.
So, if we do finish 7-3, you could argue that that should be 5-5 and easily could have been 4-6, and that's if we win the last two. A&M and MSU are both losable.
For the record, I do like Gus, but it's becoming clearer to even the most ardent Gus fans that he's at his ceiling.
So, if we do finish 7-3, you could argue that that should be 5-5 and easily could have been 4-6, and that's if we win the last two. A&M and MSU are both losable.
For the record, I do like Gus, but it's becoming clearer to even the most ardent Gus fans that he's at his ceiling.
Posted on 11/29/20 at 8:15 pm to Pettifogger
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1/3 of the fanbase will want him extended
Only way Gus should get an extension is if he wins a Championship and that's not happening
Posted on 11/29/20 at 8:17 pm to AUTubaHerd
quote:Fear of becoming Tennessee
I’m sure that’s what Tennessee said before firing Fulmer and then being unable to hire a quality coach for over a decade. If you could just line up some dollars and hire a championship coach, everyone would. We really need to up our bagman game.
Posted on 11/29/20 at 8:28 pm to CaptainBrannigan
I don’t have $30 million.
I also would NEVER had fallen for the Sexton Shuffle.
Hopefully, we can have more sensible, results based contracts going forward after Gus either saves his job or is fired.
We crippled ourselves with the 49 million dollar contract. Most pay should be performance based bonuses.
I also would NEVER had fallen for the Sexton Shuffle.
Hopefully, we can have more sensible, results based contracts going forward after Gus either saves his job or is fired.
We crippled ourselves with the 49 million dollar contract. Most pay should be performance based bonuses.
Posted on 11/29/20 at 9:09 pm to makersmark1
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I also would NEVER had fallen for the Sexton Shuffle.
I didn’t have any problem signing Gus back up after 2017, but not for what we paid him. If Arky really wanted him that bad, then we shoulda told him to kick rocks and gotten someone else. Outside of Saban, I’m not sure why these coaching contracts have gotten to where they are.
Posted on 11/30/20 at 1:33 am to CaptainBrannigan
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Can we fire
If South Carolina and Vandy can grab their sacks and fire coaches this season, so can Auburn. I don't know why the default is we have to have a reason to fire the head coach. It's not a lifetime SCOTUS appointment.
The default should be the head coach busting a hump every week, giving the fans a reason to keep him. Win the games, win the championships, win the game management, win the optics, win the interviews, win the post-game press conferences, win the recruiting...win it all. Or get fired. Non-producers go somewhere else.
Posted on 11/30/20 at 5:11 am to CaptainBrannigan
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Can we fire a 7-3 Gus?
Captain lets pretend that your thoughts come true. Auburn ends up 7-3 at the end of this crazy season.
That would mean that Auburn beats Texas AM who is the #5 team in the country. They lose to the #1 team in the country and UGA who was top 5 when we played them. They loss to a shitty South Carolina team that was inexcusable.
If you are the decider, are you basing your firing of Malzahn on the fact that he lost to a shitty South Carolina team alone or the fact that he could not beat the #1 team and the #5 team in the country. Both on the road.
What would be your reasoning to pay the 30mil based on that end of season?
Posted on 11/30/20 at 5:13 am to PrisonMike
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The default should be the head coach busting a hump every week, giving the fans a reason to keep him. Win the games, win the championships, win the game management, win the optics, win the interviews, win the post-game press conferences, win the recruiting...win it all. Or get fired. Non-producers go somewhere else.
I do finally agree with something you say. This is the correct optics and it should be what is expected. How do we get there? I use the same philosophy in my own work everyday.
Posted on 11/30/20 at 6:52 am to allin2010
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Bigger question will we fire a 6-4 coach. 5-5 and he is gone.
This right here.
I think the days of Gus are numbered... but I still hope he manages to take a giant shite on Texas A&M's dreams...
And then we get blown out by Miss State :(
Still, the "jet" should be making trips right now.
This post was edited on 11/30/20 at 6:54 am
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