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Posted by CorchJay
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Posted on 1/9/22 at 11:26 pm to
Bro we are going NFL-lite. Most starters on NFL teams make more then the coaches
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 1/9/22 at 11:33 pm to
5 million dollar contracts will probably draw a new line between the haves and have nots. And I’m not sure Auburn would end up in the haves category despite being a top 15 program, top ten revenue program because this is still boosters led.
Posted by kung fu kenny
Birmingham
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 1/9/22 at 11:37 pm to
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Because the academic studies the university gets paid for those as well and the junior “scientists” don’t get their cut like sports ballers do either.


They don’t, but do they bring in as much revenue and profit as some athletes do? I’m genuinely asking, I don’t know how to measure that.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
50668 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 12:00 am to
If anything Saban’s salary brought academic invigoration to Bama thanks to popular sports ->out of state students-> money-> top professors/ better equipment ->scholar students. Their testing requirements are similar now.

But his role is permanent. What’s a handsomely paid 4 year OL gonna do? He would be serving the boosters. It would take a long standing racket to maintain that kind of lure and top academia would be best served heading to an institution where they felt more appreciated by then. Really an opposite effect of Saban.
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
21079 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 12:06 am to
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They don’t, but do they bring in as much revenue and profit as some athletes do?


No they don’t. But also the records for studies are kept pretty quiet like AU works with NASA on studies.

I always use the example of UF and Gatorade. Yes the professor was the lead point in that but “students” worked in the development of the product. Did they get paid for their work? Do they still receive royalties? I don’t know the answer specifically but I would assume no. They take that work and put it on their resumes and use it to make money in the future at jobs.
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
21079 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 12:12 am to
Also have to point out the revenue that the football and basketball teams pull in. They already break close to even supporting title IX sports. I think I have mentioned before I can’t remember the exact numbers for the 2013 MNC game against FSU. I think the payout was 30 million. The trip for the team, band, cheerleaders, coaches, drs, support staff, university members cost more then the pay out of the game. We went negative that year on athletics budget because making it to that game. That’s absolutely crazy to think about. Can’t remember if we got the hard 30 million or it was put in the conference pot and split with the other schools but I do remember we lost money going to the game
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
21079 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 12:21 am to
Sorry to keep going on this but you don’t think large fisheries, poultry giants, forestry and other specialty fields don’t fund studies at AU. Of course they do and the companies then take that information and grow bigger more sustainable products. Those kids don’t get paid. They get experience just as college athletes gets experience for what they want to do , go pro, or they have a fall back plan on a great education if if they don’t make it in their preferred field.

These numbers we have already heard OL the expected baseline is going to be $50k per year per player. In the state of Alabama the average teacher makes $56k a year and many have Masters plus experience to be at that level. They start our around 40ish
Posted by GruntAu
Member since Jul 2017
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Posted on 1/10/22 at 4:35 am to
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These numbers we have already heard OL the expected baseline is going to be $50k per year per player. In the state of Alabama the average teacher makes $56k a year and many have Masters plus experience to be at that level. They start our around 40ish


It’s called capitalism, thousands of people can teach, Auburn can’t find 5 sec caliber O lineman. The market sets itself
Posted by Placekicker
Florida
Member since Jan 2016
12414 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 5:16 am to
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Bro we are going NFL-lite. Most starters on NFL teams make more then the coaches


Here is where the market will implode, I think. In the NFL, The players that do make more than coaches are proven talent, at the college level at minimum. How many five star recruit busts have we had? Plus, how many of them were spoiled prima Donna’s who were worshipped in their hometown? Ok, so now you’ve just given one of these privileged, unproven at the college level talents more money than his Coordinator. How long before his coach tells him to do something, and that player says - man, I make more than you! ? How long before the “I put fans in the stands” argument comes up? This is heading to where we don’t want it to go.
This post was edited on 1/10/22 at 5:17 am
Posted by 88TIger
Member since Nov 2012
3402 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 5:43 am to
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Those kids don’t get paid. They get experience just as college athletes gets experience for what they want to do ,
I can tell you this, if the students gets a patent out of creating something that has to do with the research that they are doing even in undergrad they keep that and can make money off of it.
Also earlier you mentioned that we were short on money post the 2013 run. FSU was also short on that as well. That was reported here in FL when I was living up there.
Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
Member since Sep 2014
23353 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 7:53 am to
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5 million dollar contracts will probably draw a new line between the haves and have nots. And I’m not sure Auburn would end up in the haves category despite being a top 15 program, top ten revenue program because this is still boosters led.




This may well alter college football in a way that makes it unwatchable to me. I cheer for all AU sports. I like to think of college athletes as students, especially since such a relatively low number ever get to go pro once they graduate.

Finally, having 5-10 brand new 18 year old millionaires on a campus is a recipe for disaster.

I hope they just go ahead and create some other NFL feeder league.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
53800 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 7:54 am to
They could do a G League type league.
Posted by PJinAtl
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2007
14054 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 8:37 am to
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Can’t remember if we got the hard 30 million or it was put in the conference pot and split with the other schools
I think it went into the pot.

If I remember correctly, the bowl money goes to the conference, and then is split into 16 equal shares. The school that went to the bowl game gets two shares. The conference office gets a share, and the other 13 teams get a share. So if the 2013 BCS CG paid out 30, Auburn got 3.75.
Posted by AUtigerNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since Apr 2011
17221 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 8:42 am to
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having 5-10 brand new 18 year old millionaires on a campus is a recipe for disaster


Yeah this is an issue. Now the players will be playing for money and lack any principle or passion for the school. It would not be like it was where you bleed for the school you play for. Lack of passion can create locker room issues and leads to losses. So it will be a critical time for coaches and leaders moving through the new landscape. It just doesn’t seem as exciting anymore now that these big contracts are involved.
Posted by TemperdTiger
Montgomery, AL
Member since Oct 2013
2384 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 8:48 am to
Look I understand these players make tons of money for their university's athletic department, but paying one player millions on a team of 90 something is getting a bit ridiculous. Especially when the coaches aren't always getting that.
Posted by Placekicker
Florida
Member since Jan 2016
12414 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 8:56 am to
And, what’s going to stop them from hopping schools every year, going to the highest bidder??
Posted by AA7
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2009
28447 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 9:07 am to
You get one free transfer, after that you have to sit a year like it was before.
Posted by wareaglepete
Union of Soviet Auburn Republics
Member since Dec 2012
17613 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 9:16 am to
This is outstanding NIL speculation and discussion from everyone, but has anyone heard anything new on Caleb Williams? I think we hear something early this week.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
44981 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 9:37 am to
Is that only if you accept a scholarship? Meaning if you pay your way, you can play?
Posted by Poker Dough
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2018
9758 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 9:45 am to
Never thought about that, if they paid their own way they can jump around every year and not sit a year couldn't they?
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