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re: Buccees Mascot Coaching Edition (Former Jet Tracking)
Posted on 9/18/22 at 12:41 am to Rhymenoceros
Posted on 9/18/22 at 12:41 am to Rhymenoceros
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We need an up and comer with a track record, but we HAVE to have someone with huge recruiting pull on staff
I'm big on Jeff Lebby, Kane Wommack, and Jamey Chadwell, but other than Lebbby, I'm not sure about their recruiting ability
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Posted on 9/18/22 at 5:21 am to Lee County Tiger
Saban
Smart
Urban
Stoops
Who the F knows
Smart
Urban
Stoops
Who the F knows
Posted on 9/18/22 at 7:21 am to LanierSpots
I would be interested in your thoughts on Dell McGee? He is the secret to the Dawgs success. Been with Kirby for some time as Kirby studied under Nick and would surround himself with good coaches. Out of box thinking but...
Posted on 9/18/22 at 7:27 am to BigTastey
Make Fickell say no
Posted on 9/18/22 at 7:29 am to BigTastey
Man you guys have been busy. I crashed out early like a old man should and you all stayed up hiring coaches. 
I honestly have no idea about Dell as a head coach. Auburn is a hard place which is a big part of the problem. Now there are many variables that make it a hard place so I just have no idea who we should hire or how to go about it
I would think the first thing would be to get a good AD. That seems to be more important right now. Someone who can somehow convince a new candidate that they have control of the Auburn frickery. Unfortunately, that is a very difficult task.
I honestly have no idea about Dell as a head coach. Auburn is a hard place which is a big part of the problem. Now there are many variables that make it a hard place so I just have no idea who we should hire or how to go about it
I would think the first thing would be to get a good AD. That seems to be more important right now. Someone who can somehow convince a new candidate that they have control of the Auburn frickery. Unfortunately, that is a very difficult task.
Posted on 9/18/22 at 7:45 am to LanierSpots
I'd be fine with Muschamp to be honest but I think our BOT is scared of him
Posted on 9/18/22 at 7:46 am to AUtigR24
At this point I don't know who the hell we get but it's going to be an and coming coordinator
Posted on 9/18/22 at 7:49 am to AUtigR24
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I'd be fine with Muschamp to be honest but I think our BOT is scared of him
I think we know what Muschamp is. I think this is a very important hire; Somehow Auburn needs someone to convince a new candidate of some support and stability within. Not sure how they will be able to do that unless they have a grand slam AD hire
There are less good coaches than there are opportunities every year. Money is not as big of a issue anymore so coaches are not going to want to come to a simmering flame
Posted on 9/18/22 at 7:50 am to HailToTheChiz
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it's going to be an and coming coordinator
With the mess we are in I don't know that you can take another gamble. That's why I mentioned Aranda Mullen Muschamp. Someone that could get us back on track with 8 win seasons and if they don't work out we can rehire down the road after our reputation is back.
We're looking at 4-5 wins no qb on the roster no Oline talent no recruits I don't know that an "up and comer" is the right play right now.
Posted on 9/18/22 at 7:51 am to AUtigR24
I don't necessarily agree with the coordinator route either but I'm just not sure who would be a target
Posted on 9/18/22 at 7:52 am to Lee County Tiger
I'm team Rhett Lashlee
He's less stubborn Gus with a passing offense. He's also social, high energy and a good recruiter
Not sure he has the highest ceiling but I think he can win consistently and keep the team talented
He's less stubborn Gus with a passing offense. He's also social, high energy and a good recruiter
Not sure he has the highest ceiling but I think he can win consistently and keep the team talented
This post was edited on 9/18/22 at 7:54 am
Posted on 9/18/22 at 8:10 am to GenesChin
I’m not sure the right combo of a guy that can run the program the way he wants and has to play within the “Auburn rules”. I think every coach we’ve had since Tuberville anyway has clashed with the boosters. All of those guys have been successful at times, so it can be done.
Posted on 9/18/22 at 8:19 am to Smoke7024
First lets hire a top AD. But before we fire and make another public stink by whiffing on candidates, I would prefer that we have replacement lined up. Aranda is my top choice. He can put together a strong staff and knows the SE. And yes I supported CBH but yesterday’s loss and performance on both sides of the ball was unacceptable.
Posted on 9/18/22 at 8:31 am to HailToTheChiz
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I don't necessarily agree with the coordinator route either but I'm just not sure who would be a target
Jeff Grimes
Posted on 9/18/22 at 8:45 am to AUarch79
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And yes I supported CBH but yesterday’s loss and performance on both sides of the ball was unacceptable.
If you truly support him, one loss should not make you want to fire him. Every coach lays eggs.
My feeling is, most of the people here who "supported" Harsin, did not. He was never a good fit for the program and it was so easy to see from the beginning.
Not talking abou your specifically AUarch79. Posters as a whole just did not want to seem doubters when it truely was a bad hire at a bad time..
Posted on 9/18/22 at 8:49 am to LanierSpots
quote:That was, ultimately, my point.
There are less good coaches than there are opportunities every year. Money is not as big of a issue anymore so coaches are not going to want to come to a simmering flame
Take Napier for example. He was the hot name for a while. He waited for the right job to open up, and I'm sure he declined quite a few, while he waited.
Realistically, we have to admit that the Auburn job has been severely tarnished over the years, and that will greatly reduce the pool of coaches willing and worthy of the job. I think there is a ton of upside with someone like Freeze, but if you pass on him you are relegated to old coaches who've been fired from a few jobs, or some huge risk up and comer from FCS or a coordinator that has never been a HC.
We could get Freeze, Les Miles, Mullen, etc or an OC or DC that few have ever heard of. That is exactly what happened with the last hire. I'd be willing to bet large amounts of money that Harsin was way down the list of calls during the search.
It is what it is.
Posted on 9/18/22 at 8:54 am to GenesChin
Rhett Lashlee… that thinking is a triple dip of stupid….
Posted on 9/18/22 at 9:03 am to greygoose
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Take Napier for example. He was the hot name for a while. He waited for the right job to open up, and I'm sure he declined quite a few, while he waited.
Realistically, we have to admit that the Auburn job has been severely tarnished over the years, and that will greatly reduce the pool of coaches willing and worthy of the job. I think there is a ton of upside with someone like Freeze, but if you pass on him you are relegated to old coaches who've been fired from a few jobs, or some huge risk up and comer from FCS or a coordinator that has never been a HC.
We could get Freeze, Les Miles, Mullen, etc or an OC or DC that few have ever heard of. That is exactly what happened with the last hire. I'd be willing to bet large amounts of money that Harsin was way down the list of calls during the search.
It is what it is.
You are literally repeating my words from 2 years ago. You are preaching to the choir. My point with the Malzahn fire was not that he didnt deserve to be fired, but that a plan needed to be in place as Auburn was not exactly a top tier landing place for good coaches. And of course it was argued to death here because I liked Gus.
"You have to be careful what you ask for" Before you pay 20 million to remove a coach that has had some difficulties but is not really terrible, you need a plan. Not just a whack a mole
As for Harsin, I do not think he deserves to be fired for what he has done. I think he deserves to be fired for what the future looks like. Losing to Penn St is not ground enough to fire him. But the outlook is really really bad. People here convinced themselves, with fingers crossed, that he was going to save us from UGA and Bama. He isnt and neither is anyone else right now
When Texas and OU join the SEC, we will be pushed back even farther. It will take a while. There will need to be some structural changes in the way Auburn does things to make it possible to build a top tier program. Like it or not.
There are more attractive programs out there and who in their right mind would not pursue them over Auburn
Posted on 9/18/22 at 9:45 am to LanierSpots
quote:99.9% of the people only see/blame the HC. The predicament we are in, is all on the BOT. All started with the Leith hire.
You are literally repeating my words from 2 years ago. You are preaching to the choir. My point with the Malzahn fire was not that he didnt deserve to be fired, but that a plan needed to be in place as Auburn was not exactly a top tier landing place for good coaches. And of course it was argued to death here because I liked Gus. "You have to be careful what you ask for"
Before you pay 20 million to remove a coach that has had some difficulties but is not really terrible, you need a plan. Not just a whack a mole
As for Harsin, I do not think he deserves to be fired for what he has done. I think he deserves to be fired for what the future looks like. Losing to Penn St is not ground enough to fire him. But the outlook is really really bad. People here convinced themselves, with fingers crossed, that he was going to save us from UGA and Bama. He isnt and neither is anyone else right now
When Texas and OU join the SEC, we will be pushed back even farther. It will take a while. There will need to be some structural changes in the way Auburn does things to make it possible to build a top tier program. Like it or not.
There are more attractive programs out there and who in their right mind would not pursue them over Auburn
This is going to be very hard to fix with who we have, ultimately running the program.
Posted on 9/18/22 at 9:45 am to LanierSpots
Look at LSU. 1st week they were embarrassed and didn’t look like a well coached team. 2 weeks late, a complete 180, that’s because Kelly is a good coach and holds his coaches accountable. And they have a crap QB also
Similar situations but they seemed to execute the hiring process much better
Similar situations but they seemed to execute the hiring process much better
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