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re: Bo Nix: Worst Freshman QB in CFB
Posted on 1/16/20 at 1:27 pm to BuckFama334
Posted on 1/16/20 at 1:27 pm to BuckFama334
I'm sick of these depressing offensive statistics, the truth hurts. Don't expect Chad Morris to be the savior either, we all know hard headed Gus will not relinquish control of the offense. Cheers to another 4-5 loss campaign in 2020. 
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Posted on 1/16/20 at 1:27 pm to jangalang
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OP does suggest that Al.com said Nix was the worst freshman QB in CFB. That’s not the case. You inferred that.
What he said
Posted on 1/16/20 at 1:37 pm to jangalang
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101. BO NIX – AUBURN
Preseason Rank: 96; Week 6 Rank: 88; Week 12 Rank: 96
The SEC Freshman of the Year was certainly not in the running to win such an award from us at PFF, as Nix continually didn’t grade well all season long, finishing with 18 turnover-worthy passes (T-28th) to just 17 big-time throws (T-47th). His highlight-reel plays were something, but he was far too often inaccurate with the ball, throwing an uncatchable, inaccurate pass on 26.5% of his throws. He finished as just the 105th-ranked quarterback in passing grade while his 63.0% completion percentage from a clean pocket ranked just 128th. He did some things well, however, as he was rather sharp on throws across the middle of the field, seeing an 81.5 passing grade and completing 93-of-133 passes for 1,036 yards and eight scores on throws targeted between the numbers last season.
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he was rather sharp on throws across the middle of the field, seeing an 81.5 passing grade and completing 93-of-133 passes for 1,036 yards and eight scores on throws targeted between the numbers
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he was rather sharp on throws across the middle of the field
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middle of the field
SOMEBODY PLEASE TELL GUS.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 1:37 pm to jangalang
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I’m in the middle with Nix. I don’t think he is the best thing ever. Don’t think we will for sure win a championship with him unlike Gus, but he had a good enough TF season to scoff at whoever when they want to call Nix trash.
I think I am a little bit higher than middle ground w/ Bo.
He was able to beat Alabama. :)
IMHO:
He has the arm.
He has es-capability in the pocket
He has the moxie to never seem to give up on a play.
He seems to have the cerebral part of being a QB.
He seemed to lead, even though I am sure as a FR his head was blowing up at times from complex defenses and Gus in his ear.
What I don't know for sure yet:
Can he read defenses.
Can he consistently make the deep throws
Can he improve his accuracy
More importantly: Can M&M provide Bo with the best QB development and a better passing scheme to make him more successful?
Posted on 1/16/20 at 2:07 pm to AuSteeler
Any idea how these numbers compare to stidham's numbers?
Posted on 1/16/20 at 2:12 pm to BuckFama334
all I’ll say is he has work to do. Also I’ll say because of his last name he can do no wrong and has all this cache built up.
His accuracy was an issue. Combine that with the offensive line and plays calls spells disaster.
His accuracy was an issue. Combine that with the offensive line and plays calls spells disaster.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 2:13 pm to BuckFama334
BuckFama334: Worst "Auburn" poster on TD.com
Posted on 1/16/20 at 2:15 pm to Fear The Thumb
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I'm sick of these depressing offensive statistics,
I doubt that seriously. You seem to love them
Posted on 1/16/20 at 2:22 pm to Ccslimm
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Also I’ll say because of his last name he can do no wrong and has all this cache built up.
Huh? Why does everyone seem to think Patrick Nix is holding a gun over the University?
He's a high school football coach who happened to play here. Our very lucrative football program is certainly not bending to him and you'd be nuts to think otherwise.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 2:33 pm to auburnnyc94
I think the point is that Auburn fans are an insular and sometimes cultish bunch. Gus Malzahn is not an Auburn dude and gets like 7 million dollars a year to do a pretty mediocre job. Nonetheless, we have plenty of fans who treat him as untouchable and think he's the epitome of what it means to be an Auburn person. It's less obvious on here because most of us are younger. The older generations of Auburn fans treat coaches like gods when in reality they're mercenaries.
A lot of the same people will be very reluctant to get too critical of Nix because of his last name. IMO, Nix did fine and last year should be beneficial going forward. I like him and think he has the makings of a good QB. I see him more as a multi year starter with 2nd all-SEC team upside, rather than a Heisman candidate, but it's all guesswork.
A lot of the same people will be very reluctant to get too critical of Nix because of his last name. IMO, Nix did fine and last year should be beneficial going forward. I like him and think he has the makings of a good QB. I see him more as a multi year starter with 2nd all-SEC team upside, rather than a Heisman candidate, but it's all guesswork.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 2:34 pm to BuckFama334
Scheme and lack of development of Nix by the offensive guru. How many routes or variation of do you see in the passing scheme? Very limited. Compare Auburns receiver production to Alabama's, LSU's, Clemson's or any other team that has an offensive pulse. Has this offense truly utilized the talent of the receivers or does it limit them? Legitimate question. Plus for the last two years we haven't even had a dominate running game (no thousand yard rushers). Who should be held accountable for the offensive line woes? I pray that Bicknell can help here if he is allowed to.
Name one high school quarterback that Malzahn has developed while at Auburn. Long line of failures. What is the reason for that? Compared to the others in the past Nix did better, but that may have been based on talent and ability alone on his part.
Against good - superior competition can you name one game this year that Auburn won that was the result of the offense being the definitive reason for winning it?
How many games have we lost over the past few years that the offense was the definitive reason for losing it? Thank God for the defense.
These are the facts like it or not.
Name one high school quarterback that Malzahn has developed while at Auburn. Long line of failures. What is the reason for that? Compared to the others in the past Nix did better, but that may have been based on talent and ability alone on his part.
Against good - superior competition can you name one game this year that Auburn won that was the result of the offense being the definitive reason for winning it?
How many games have we lost over the past few years that the offense was the definitive reason for losing it? Thank God for the defense.
These are the facts like it or not.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 2:38 pm to BuckFama334
Now adjust for the hardest regular season schedule in all of college football
Posted on 1/16/20 at 2:48 pm to AuburnTigers
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Now adjust for the hardest regular season schedule in all of college football
Yes that certainly should be accounted for, but didn't the defense play against that same competion? And they were pretty dang good.
This isn't a knock against Nix, I think he did fairly well for a true freshman. But I ask this in reference to the entire offense or offensive scheme.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 3:05 pm to BuckFama334
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He was towards the bottom or last in nearly every statistical category. Did you read the article?
Every QB isn’t listed in every category. Categories have anywhere from 10-14 players. Meaning when he is 6th in a category, he appears to be in the bottom half but is actually in the top half. Logic n shite
ETA: There are 23 QBs listed and some of them are redshirt freshmen. So he was actually in the top half in basically every category.
This post was edited on 1/16/20 at 3:11 pm
Posted on 1/16/20 at 3:21 pm to AuSteeler
Bo Nix finished a whole season unlike Tua Turndaballova, that in itself deserves plenty of praise In my opinion.
to be honest outside the horrible florida game, which was his first true road game ever, he performed well and didn't have any other bad games.
We can argue all day about how great he is but the kid beat Bama his 1st year as an 18 year old and made plays when we needed it. His future is very bright...
to be honest outside the horrible florida game, which was his first true road game ever, he performed well and didn't have any other bad games.
We can argue all day about how great he is but the kid beat Bama his 1st year as an 18 year old and made plays when we needed it. His future is very bright...
Posted on 1/16/20 at 3:25 pm to AU86
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Name one high school quarterback that Malzahn has developed while at Auburn. Long line of failures. What is the reason for that? Compared to the others in the past Nix did better, but that may have been based on talent and ability alone on his part.
Well, in his defense, Nick Marshall was a DB.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 4:19 pm to BuckFama334
He played against much better competition and we don't throw the ball nearly as much as some of those other teams I saw in that article. His completion percentage was the only stay that could really be a concern with as little as we throw and our elementary passing game. Also, our running game, the bread and butter to set up PA shots, never got going. Like at all. So those numbers are skewed. A lot imo.
His freshman numbers were nearly identical to Burrow's Junior season and it was considered a decent season. I'm not saying he will go from '18 Burrow to this year's Burrow, but he can definitely improve.
The offensive system Gus runs doesn't put the QB in advantageous situations with two short runs to set up 3rd and long a lot of times either. The ceiling on Bo Nix is very high but the staff has to put him in better situations. He had two really bad games you would expect from TF QBs in hostile environments in Gainesville Baton Rouge. He also didn't play well in the bowl game. Bo is the future of AU for the next 2-3 years and he has the potential to be an all time AU QB. We will be alright.
His freshman numbers were nearly identical to Burrow's Junior season and it was considered a decent season. I'm not saying he will go from '18 Burrow to this year's Burrow, but he can definitely improve.
The offensive system Gus runs doesn't put the QB in advantageous situations with two short runs to set up 3rd and long a lot of times either. The ceiling on Bo Nix is very high but the staff has to put him in better situations. He had two really bad games you would expect from TF QBs in hostile environments in Gainesville Baton Rouge. He also didn't play well in the bowl game. Bo is the future of AU for the next 2-3 years and he has the potential to be an all time AU QB. We will be alright.
This post was edited on 1/16/20 at 4:27 pm
Posted on 1/16/20 at 5:05 pm to Aubie Spr96
Nick Marshall did not come to Auburn out of high school either.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 5:18 pm to Niner
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he was rather sharp on throws across the middle of the field
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middle of the field
SOMEBODY PLEASE TELL GUS.
Perfect...
The problem was that the % of plays Gus called for the middle of the middle was so low, that Bo's other tougher throws made his accuracy suspect and documented.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 5:25 pm to Pettifogger
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A lot of the same people will be very reluctant to get too critical of Nix because of his last name. IMO, Nix did fine and last year should be beneficial going forward. I like him and think he has the makings of a good QB. I see him more as a multi year starter with 2nd all-SEC team upside, rather than a Heisman candidate, but it's all guesswork.
The fact is we don't know how Bo will turn out?
Look at Joe Burrow.
Wallowed around at OHio St, somehow never showing enough to be the starter.
Transfers to LSU.
In his first year had a good year, but not great.
In his 2nd year w/ a new offensive passing coordinator he sets a 1,000 passing records, wins the Heisman, and will be the first player taken in the NFL draft.
And when he was a FR, SO, and JR, I don't recall hearing anything great about his ability to lead a team to a NC.
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