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Posted on 8/9/20 at 9:40 am to LanierSpots
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5 - Gus needs to be fired
Posted on 8/9/20 at 12:58 pm to lowspark12
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Is this a bad thing?
It’s a mixed bag. The production value of CFB is great right now.
But, personally, I’d love to see it scaled back dramatically. The corruption that goes on to maintain the status quo makes a mockery out of the idea of the “student athlete” and in many instances (think UNC basketball scandal) hurts the reputation of the institution on the academic side.
I’ve been a personal advocate for the NFL to create some sort of minor league type system in the hopes that some of this corruption would disappear with the talent going to a different avenue. It seems the NBA is actively on their way to solving the one and done problem in NCAAB, and I think it’s ultimately for the best for all parties if football has some analogous institution.
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Posted on 8/9/20 at 5:57 pm to Ross
For argument's sake, let's say the season does go forward. With some schools and whole conferences cancelling or delaying their seasons until spring, players sitting, doubtless we will see some players and coaches having to miss chunks of season due to being ill (or at least testing positive), it seems like any conference or national championships will be followed with an arse load of proverbial asterisks. Will the season's results be any more meaningful than say, UCF's 2017 natty?
For the record, I hope we have a season (or at least wish we could), but given the risks we face, the factors working against it, and that the results will be, IMHO anyway, worthless, I think it's time to call it.
I look at what was standing in the virus's way, and I don't see anything before a vaccine or herd immunity. I was hoping summer was, but it didn't seem to slow it substantially (or, scary thought, maybe it did). With that in mind, I will not be surprised if it's at least fall 2021 before we see a return of intercollegiate athletics. I hate it, but it may be a real possibility.
To the virus deniers who say it's no worse than the flu, how do you explain the maxed out ICU capacity earlier this year? Also, I know the CFB power brokers are trying to press on because there's a lot of money involved, but a lot of people are losing a lot of money on things more important than athletics.
For the record, I hope we have a season (or at least wish we could), but given the risks we face, the factors working against it, and that the results will be, IMHO anyway, worthless, I think it's time to call it.
I look at what was standing in the virus's way, and I don't see anything before a vaccine or herd immunity. I was hoping summer was, but it didn't seem to slow it substantially (or, scary thought, maybe it did). With that in mind, I will not be surprised if it's at least fall 2021 before we see a return of intercollegiate athletics. I hate it, but it may be a real possibility.
To the virus deniers who say it's no worse than the flu, how do you explain the maxed out ICU capacity earlier this year? Also, I know the CFB power brokers are trying to press on because there's a lot of money involved, but a lot of people are losing a lot of money on things more important than athletics.
This post was edited on 8/9/20 at 6:15 pm
Posted on 8/9/20 at 6:50 pm to jvilletiger25
Jville... with Lanier now agreeing that double bubble needs to go there is no doubt that the end times are here!
Posted on 8/9/20 at 7:01 pm to Broadside Bob
2020 season will not be happening.
Start looking to next season.
Start looking to next season.
Posted on 8/10/20 at 6:32 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
By the end of this week, we’ll know one of three things: There will be no college football this fall or the SEC, Big 12 and ACC will be holdouts or the SEC will stand alone.
Spring ball will not happen.
Spring ball will not happen.
Posted on 8/10/20 at 6:42 am to allin2010
It’s over for this year gents. Just think there’s too much liability and no one wants to risk it. Hopefully after November this all goes away.
Posted on 8/10/20 at 6:52 am to Rhino5
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It’s over for this year gents. Just think there’s too much liability and no one wants to risk it. Hopefully after November this all goes away.
The mess that this will create is going to take a while to sort out. There is probably a list of things that is 10 pages long. Eligibility, scholarships, Incoming freshmen, Scholarship numbers per team, etc. That will take a while to sort out and will be debated, like everything else, to the last detail.
Like I said in a different post. This is a time where college athletics needs a real life governing body. The NCAA should hire someone to come in and sort this mess out. And give them full control until things are settled.
Posted on 8/10/20 at 7:08 am to LanierSpots
Yep. College athletics bubble (especially football) is going to pop and the facilities arms race is going to end. It’ll come back eventually, but we’re talking billions of dollars of inter-state commerce being eliminated.
Also, it sucks the record books will be be impacted as well. I believe Nix had a chance to become AU’s all time leading passer.
But with the current political environment of major entities under attack, no one is taking a chance on being held liable on anything and it’s hard to blame them.
Also, it sucks the record books will be be impacted as well. I believe Nix had a chance to become AU’s all time leading passer.
But with the current political environment of major entities under attack, no one is taking a chance on being held liable on anything and it’s hard to blame them.
Posted on 8/10/20 at 7:53 am to Rhino5
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the facilities arms race is going to end.
So there will be one good thing to come from this
Posted on 8/10/20 at 8:03 am to Rhino5
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Yep. College athletics bubble (especially football) is going to pop and the facilities arms race is going to end. It’ll come back eventually, but we’re talking billions of dollars of inter-state commerce being eliminated.
I think the college bubble in general is in real danger of popping and COVID has expedited the demise.
Posted on 8/10/20 at 8:42 am to Ross
It’s not just Covid. It is the actions of people that will add to that.
The “look at me” people out there exploiting movements along with the idea that college players should be paid will add to the chaos.
Plays getting paid to play college athletics was never a good idea and we all are about to see why.
The “look at me” people out there exploiting movements along with the idea that college players should be paid will add to the chaos.
Plays getting paid to play college athletics was never a good idea and we all are about to see why.
Posted on 8/10/20 at 8:49 am to LanierSpots
I have been a proponent of reducing college football. As much as I live Auburn, I dont like the professional sports aspect of it. On the flip side, the NFL needs to move some teams south. There is no reason for Buffalo to have a team. If Bham had a team, it would help relieve some of the arms race between the two schools.
Posted on 8/10/20 at 8:57 am to Ross
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I think the college bubble in general is in real danger of popping and COVID has expedited the demise.
This downtime for college players gave those organizations and 'I can make a lot of money off of college players' agent-types were probably able to get key conference players to band together, organize, and develop a 'players association' plan to force the conferences to give even more up than revenue.
Possibly another reason conferences would like to deem 2020 a lost cause for college sports...and give them time now to develop a plan to counter these #WEAREUNITED and #WEWANTTOPLAY groups working to organize college players.
Posted on 8/10/20 at 9:02 am to AuSteeler
I do have a question.
Lets say the BIG10 and the PAC12 decide to cancel fall sports, but the SEC and ACC go ahead and play college football in the fall...
What does the NCAA do with this scenario? Is it just going to be the revenues coming into these conferences since they will be the only college game around in Sep-January?
Once the SEC plays their schedule, is that it? No championship games?
Splits college games between fall(SEC/ACC), spring(Big10, PAC12)?
WHat a mess...
Lets say the BIG10 and the PAC12 decide to cancel fall sports, but the SEC and ACC go ahead and play college football in the fall...
What does the NCAA do with this scenario? Is it just going to be the revenues coming into these conferences since they will be the only college game around in Sep-January?
Once the SEC plays their schedule, is that it? No championship games?
Splits college games between fall(SEC/ACC), spring(Big10, PAC12)?
WHat a mess...
Posted on 8/10/20 at 9:22 am to AuSteeler
No one knows what to do.
Posted on 8/10/20 at 10:07 am to Rhino5
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no one is taking a chance on being held liable on anything and it’s hard to blame them.
Exhibit A:
University of Houston defensive lineman Sedrick Williams will not play in the 2020 season because of heart complications related to COVID-19.
In a post on Facebook, Williams said:
"I’ve had my mind made up for a min now , but hearing this story made it even easier ... As a result of the virus I’ve had complications with my heart and I really don’t know the outcome or what’s in store for me in the future , I just know that my life is more precious to me than football could ever be ... I’VE DECIDED TO OPT OUT OF THE 2020 FOOTBALL SEASON due to these complications ... I won’t take this year for granted , IM COMING BACK BIGGER , FASTER , & STRONGER than EVER ...
If you support my decision , thank you . If you don’t support my decision , thank you ."
It sounds like he's going to attempt to continue playing after this year, but if this is some sort of serious heart condition and he can't play, or something worse happens to him, is the school at fault, assuming he contracted the virus at a football related activity?
If so and he voluntarily came back to practice but was assured it was a safe environment, there will be some serious legal battles going on.
If he has long term heart conditions, is the school on the hook for the medical bills that would eventually come from that?
Lots of unanswered questions that these schools do not want to have to face.
Posted on 8/10/20 at 11:29 am to kage
Rob Pate tweeted this yesterday.
Not saying it’s necessarily true and even if it is, would be hard to prove. But he does raise an interesting point...
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Looks like perhaps university presidents used college football programs to give the appearance campus life would have a semblance of normalcy—let families move kids in and make sure fall tuition cleared—then pull the plug on football. Covid was less controlled when practice began
Not saying it’s necessarily true and even if it is, would be hard to prove. But he does raise an interesting point...
Posted on 8/10/20 at 11:35 am to atlau
I have no doubts the SEC/Big12/ACC have every intention to play.
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