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Are the accusations about how Gus runs practice true?

Posted on 9/20/16 at 6:37 am
Posted by StringedInstruments
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Posted on 9/20/16 at 6:37 am
I've read from multiple sources over the years - usually non-Auburn fans - that Gus Malzahn's practice routine is to run as many plays on offense as possible. That it's less about taking time to break down the assignments and coach up technique and more so about getting the kids ready to run tempo.

I always blew it off because it was usually shite talkers talking shite.

But now I'm wondering if there's merit in those accusations.

Does anyone here have any info on how Gus structures practice for the offense?
This post was edited on 9/20/16 at 6:38 am
Posted by Jyrdis
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Posted on 9/20/16 at 7:38 am to
I don't have any info on practices but if this is true

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and more so about getting the kids ready to run tempo.


then he sure is wasting time in practice because he's not doing it on game day.
Posted by OlGrandad
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Posted on 9/20/16 at 7:40 am to
I would be interested in a response from someone who knows the answer.
Posted by threedog79
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Posted on 9/20/16 at 7:40 am to
Practice plan: 1) run whirley bird; 2) dive up middle practice; 3) practice the bubble screen (must take forever to get ball out and throw it high); 4) practice punt.

After practice plan: tell media you liked the energy and say we must improve...you know ("earn it") moto.

Watch plan run to perfection in game.
This post was edited on 9/20/16 at 7:43 am
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
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Posted on 9/20/16 at 8:14 am to
I mean, I know we do tempo drills, where the sole purpose is to work on tempo, so it is kind of true.

That isn't all we run though. More than likely, said rumor was started after some idiot watched one of our practice videos and determined that was all we did.


ETA: He also has portions of practice where he barely lets anyone see the play they are working on and runs it over and over until it is done correctly
This post was edited on 9/20/16 at 8:16 am
Posted by AUTiger45
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Posted on 9/20/16 at 8:16 am to
never actually seen a Gus practice but I know it's true you play how you practice. the easiest assumption to make is that we spend the first 30 minutes playing up tempo patty cake followed by a 2 hour dizzy bat session to perfect our twirly bird. o-line practices their 3 step drop blocking scheme where at the snap they hop 3 steps and drop to the ground.
Posted by blzr
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Posted on 9/20/16 at 8:24 am to
No thats what position group is for
Posted by allin2010
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Posted on 9/20/16 at 9:50 am to
quote:

that Gus Malzahn's practice routine is to run as many plays on offense as possible. That it's less about taking time to break down the assignments and coach up technique and more so about getting the kids ready to run tempo.



The scrimmages that are done for the Scholarship donors do not match this description. I did see a lot more pace this year than previous years, but I saw that as a positive sign.

Gus built his reputation on running a few plays very well. The bottom line is that folks have figured him out and he is stuck with 3 average at best QBs.
Posted by awestruck
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Posted on 9/20/16 at 2:01 pm to
quote:

never actually seen a Gus practice but I know it's true you play how you practice. the easiest assumption to make is that we spend the first 30 minutes playing up tempo patty cake followed by a 2 hour dizzy bat session to perfect our twirly bird. o-line practices their 3 step drop blocking scheme where at the snap they hop 3 steps and drop to the ground.


... and then set around shooting the shite about efficient 2 minute drills.
Posted by JamalSanders
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Posted on 9/20/16 at 4:52 pm to
quote:

I've read from multiple sources over the years - usually non-Auburn fans - that Gus Malzahn's practice routine is to run as many plays on offense as possible. That it's less about taking time to break down the assignments and coach up technique and more so about getting the kids ready to run tempo.


That is because it is blatantly false. Auburn's practices are divided into 14-24 5 minute "periods." Usually they start with 2 periods of ST, then 7-10 of position group periods. The first 2-3 periods of the position group periods is where Gus will do pace, where he will have a group out there running 4-8 plays as fast as possible to simulate a drive. After position group periods there will be another 2 periods of ST. After this the team splits into offense and defense and works on packages together. The final 2-4 periods of practice the offense and defense comes together and basically scrimmages.

Usually the position group stuff is where they work on technique and the unit stuff is where they implement the game plan. Sometimes tempo is stressed more but usually it is more about getting the scripted plays correct and everyone knowing their assignments. We spend an inordinate amount of time working on assignments.

The issue that we have is that play calling has been bad. When Rhett was calling plays last year the offense was moving a lot better than when Gus was. I think the issue is that Gus is trying to stay on the edge of creative with his play calling when in reality if he just stuck with what he was doing that got him here he would be fine.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
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Posted on 9/20/16 at 7:07 pm to
Posted by GenesChin
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Posted on 9/20/16 at 7:26 pm to
When we change offensive plans mid game, you are bound to have assignment breakdowns too


Take for examplethe first 4th down with JF3 that was tackled for a loss. Chandler Cox run right past his assigned block, DHall off the edge who made the play.


That play is unlikely to be practiced much as it is for a backup QB. Shouldn't be a surprise when someone makes a blocking assignment error.
Posted by MrAUTigers
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Posted on 9/20/16 at 8:34 pm to
I have read articles where visiting coaches/gum bumpers have been very impressed with Auburn's practice routine.

ETA Auburn's O problems are all about execution, this starts with the OL, and the play calling. Hopefully both will get fixed.
This post was edited on 9/20/16 at 8:36 pm
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