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Posted on 1/15/23 at 11:02 pm to RandySavage
Posted on 1/15/23 at 11:02 pm to RandySavage
I’m all for not hammering but what’s the difference of talking about Robby’s play and saying how horrible our offensive line is and how they are not a SEC caliber line? You have done plenty of that over the last few years and they all go and play their asses off too.
You didn’t hold back your thoughts on their horrible play. Kind of a moving moral line you have, or at least appear to have.
Wow, AuburnTigers beat me to it.
He’s right Randy and he doesn’t need to link it. We have all seen it.
You didn’t hold back your thoughts on their horrible play. Kind of a moving moral line you have, or at least appear to have.
Wow, AuburnTigers beat me to it.
He’s right Randy and he doesn’t need to link it. We have all seen it.
This post was edited on 1/15/23 at 11:04 pm
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Posted on 1/15/23 at 11:09 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
Fair point, to me there is a difference in pointing out the collective and repeatedly calling out individuals by name. Maybe not a huge one, but everyone has their line.
Posted on 1/15/23 at 11:11 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
quote:exactly. I dont get why people are excusing Robby's bad play. I get that he had a below average to average OL last year but damn man, we all saw him miss easy throws, miss screen passes, throw ints, fumble the ball when not even hit, drop snaps, bail out of a clean pocket, act emotionally unstable ect...His only saving grace is his athleticism and speed...both of which are elite.
He’s right Randy and he doesn’t need to link it. We have all seen it.
Posted on 1/16/23 at 7:19 am to RandySavage
If we dont get a portal QB for the spring, rolling out of spring the coaches will get a good look at the QB room and Geriner will be the undisputed number one, and hopefully we can pick up a one and done in the portal for the fall. Geriner will get playing time in 23 and be the starter by 24.
Might want to bookmark this
Might want to bookmark this
Posted on 1/16/23 at 8:09 am to RandySavage
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Fair point, to me there is a difference in pointing out the collective and repeatedly calling out individuals by name. Maybe not a huge one, but everyone has their line.
Robbie gave some incredible effort late in the season. I will not try and cover it up. His effort was amazing against Bama and some of the late games.
But he is just in the wrong position. He just does not have the tools to be a D1 quarterback at this level. Mental and physical tools. Im not shitting on him, just calling it what it is.
We need someone else. Preferably someone in the portal who has some experience and the tools needed. There has been too much work put in to fill in the holes left by our previous 2 coaches not to fill in one of the most important positions
Posted on 1/16/23 at 8:45 am to LanierSpots
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Mental and physical tools.
He does have the physical tools though. I think that’s probably where the difference between both sides of the argument is.
He’s clearly capable as a runner and he also does have the arm strength. His problem is mentally and fundamentals. I think that’s where people see Freeze as fixing him with those issues even though I think it’s a lot harder than people are making it out to be.
You can’t just say well he fixed Malik so he’ll fix Ashford. Doesn’t work like that.
Posted on 1/16/23 at 8:53 am to Weagle25
Have to agree with all of that.
Posted on 1/16/23 at 9:19 am to Weagle25
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You can’t just say well he fixed Malik so he’ll fix Ashford. Doesn’t work like that.
As one of the biggest Malik fans, did he really "Fix" Malik? Or did he just give him some opportunity to excel in a setting that was more fitting for his skill level?
Malik is a fantastic kid and as some of you knew, I was a huge fan in High School. But even know, he is still some what the same guy he was at Roswell high school. He is a very smart and teachable guy and he is very athletic. He did well at Liberty and I dont think any of us know how good or bad he would have been at Auburn if he had won the job or been given the opportunity to be "The Guy".
I just dont think Malik was ever the best guy on the roster to be the guy at Auburn. He was not under utilized. Freeze put him in a better position than he was at Auburn. Some of that was great coaching, some of that was just playing against different competition
I was really hoping he would rally is success at Liberty in the NFL but was always worried he was not the passer that he would need to be in order to make a good NFL QB. I think that is what we have seen so far
I totally get that his athletic ability can help him. I love that kind of QB. And I am more concerned with him being a head case than his passing mechanics.
Posted on 1/16/23 at 9:31 am to LanierSpots
Malik Willis never got the opportunity to fail at Auburn, so comparing Ashford to him and stating that Freeze "fixed" Willis makes no sense. What exactly did he fix? Willis completed 11 of the 14 pass attempts he got to actually make in an Auburn uniform. Willis never completed less than 60% of his passess in any of his 4 NCAA seasons.
It seems to me that Freeze correctly found a pretty good QB from a P5 school who wasn't going to get to play because he was stuck behind a 5-star legacy recruit, and that said QB ended up thriving against lower-tier competition at Liberty.
The main differentiator that can't be overlooked is that Willis was never a 49% passer.
Malik Willis isn't the only athletic dual-threat QB with physical tools who donned an AU jersey in recent years. Why not compare Ashford to Kodi Burns, John Franklin III, or Kiehl Frazier lol? I guess those ones don't paint the picture that Ashford can somehow easily be coached into being a good SEC starter.
It seems to me that Freeze correctly found a pretty good QB from a P5 school who wasn't going to get to play because he was stuck behind a 5-star legacy recruit, and that said QB ended up thriving against lower-tier competition at Liberty.
The main differentiator that can't be overlooked is that Willis was never a 49% passer.
Malik Willis isn't the only athletic dual-threat QB with physical tools who donned an AU jersey in recent years. Why not compare Ashford to Kodi Burns, John Franklin III, or Kiehl Frazier lol? I guess those ones don't paint the picture that Ashford can somehow easily be coached into being a good SEC starter.
Posted on 1/16/23 at 9:49 am to LanierSpots
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I just dont think Malik was ever the best guy on the roster to be the guy at Auburn. He was not under utilized. Freeze put him in a better position than he was at Auburn. Some of that was great coaching, some of that was just playing against different competition
I mean I completely agree with you there. But I’m just saying even if the narrative of Freeze fixed Malik is true like others are saying, I don’t think you can just assume the same will happen with Ashford. It’s a lot more difficult than that. Especially when you’re playing elevated competition.
Posted on 1/16/23 at 10:12 am to Weagle25
Hoping we land a transfer QB so Robbie can slide into the role that best fits his skillset, 3rd team QB
Posted on 1/16/23 at 11:43 am to metafour
quote:Not to mention that Kiehl Frazier looked very good in the UA All-American game... I specifically remember that happening ha.
Malik Willis isn't the only athletic dual-threat QB with physical tools who donned an AU jersey in recent years. Why not compare Ashford to Kodi Burns, John Franklin III, or Kiehl Frazier lol? I guess those ones don't paint the picture that Ashford can somehow easily be coached into being a good SEC starter.
The thing is nobody dislikes Robby. I'd love for him to develop into the next Nick Marshall. He plays hard and laid it on the line when our other QBs quit or got injured. It's more of a Kodi Burns situation where we all like him and if he develops into a winning QB awesome, but we can't bank on that for the next year or two.
This post was edited on 1/16/23 at 11:44 am
Posted on 1/16/23 at 11:44 am to trinidadtiger
quote:Speaking straight to my soul with this one lol. I think I was the biggest Geriner fan on here when he was in HS and I'm not slowing down now. I think there's a very real possibility that he's the starter next year.
2023 Recruiting Thread: Transfer LB Austin Keys commits!
If we dont get a portal QB for the spring, rolling out of spring the coaches will get a good look at the QB room and Geriner will be the undisputed number one, and hopefully we can pick up a one and done in the portal for the fall. Geriner will get playing time in 23 and be the starter by 24.
Might want to bookmark this
Posted on 1/16/23 at 1:39 pm to jt33
Christian Burnette 23 RB/LB from Faith Academy committed as a preferred walk-on.
Posted on 1/16/23 at 4:20 pm to aubiecat
jt33, Its the 16th and no news on the portal so it looks like we roll with Ashford and Geriner through spring which will give the coaches a very thorough look at both. I think it will be abundantly clear the future for Geriner, in a good way.
Now after spring if a Bryce Young or Justin Fields is warming a bench, its a no brainer. But if its a bunch of Calzadas, do I take one and waste the first half of the season hoping he "gets it" or just roll with Geriner?
Thats the big question.
Posted on 1/16/23 at 4:20 pm to jt33
NGL I'm thinking (and hoping) we get a portal QB in the spring - don't think we're done trying on the trail just yet
Posted on 1/16/23 at 4:58 pm to HonorThyWarEagle
Isn’t spring registration open until the 18th? The way this staff has been recruiting, I’m still expecting a QB to be announced before the window closes 
In Brother Hugh I trust
In Brother Hugh I trust
This post was edited on 1/16/23 at 4:59 pm
Posted on 1/16/23 at 5:06 pm to robbykidd
If Hugh doesnt sign a Qb in the portal then we are in trouble
Posted on 1/16/23 at 5:24 pm to AuburnTigers
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If Hugh doesnt sign a Qb in the portal then we are in trouble
He will have more folks to look at post spring practice at places. People will see how they stack and decide to move. Some will be graduating and moving. We probably don't get one before the 18th. My opinion
Posted on 1/16/23 at 5:45 pm to 88TIger
quote:Yea there are several good QBs left in there... Guessing we passed on Spencer Sanders or we are playing NIL chicken with him...
He will have more folks to look at post spring practice at places. People will see how they stack and decide to move. Some will be graduating and moving. We probably don't get one before the 18th. My opinion
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