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re: 2022 Recruiting Thread

Posted on 1/29/22 at 7:23 am to
Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 1/29/22 at 7:23 am to
I think people have to sit back and understand that we’re not a destination school in the Southeast right now and it’s going to take years to build the program up to respectable levels. Malzahn left us in shambles and we’ve got to give Harsin at least 3 seasons to gauge where things are heading. This isn’t going to be an easy fix and we likely aren’t looking at being competitive in the SEC for the foreseeable future.
This post was edited on 1/29/22 at 7:24 am
Posted by alpinetiger
Salt Lake City
Member since Apr 2017
5864 posts
Posted on 1/29/22 at 7:42 am to
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Pyburn got an offer from UF and he’s visiting this weekend. He is allegedly a UF fan.
Pyburn hopes to recieve an offer on his UF visit. He hasn't recieved one yet. That was a quote directly from Pyburn. Also, both his parents are UF graduates. If UF offers that's alot to overcome.

I hope people don't lose sight that the '23 class is where I think we'll find out whether Harsin and staff will be around for longer than a 4-5 year recruiting cycle. If UF doesn't offer Pyburn I think we'll get him otherwise we don't. Reading about Citizen and Frank Wilson the past week, I think he signs with LSU. I have no idea on Farmer.

If we go 1/3 or 0/3, I think we'll finish around #20. I thought we'd be #15-ish not that the difference matters much. Maybe I'll be suprised and we'll go 3/3. Nevertheless, I think '23 is the year that will serve as the barometer.
Posted by AuSteeler
montgomery. AL
Member since Jan 2015
2989 posts
Posted on 1/29/22 at 9:35 am to
I feel the same pretty much on your finishes.

Actually I think we do go 0-3. I never felt confident in any of them.

But this recruiting year has just been so erratic on all fronts, and we are not used to that.

I don't compare it to Gus' first year, bc he had a history already w us in recruiting for 3 years prior as an OC, so he didn't start from scractch when he came, therefore his recruiting was solid except for those weak areas he left us bc his offense started to sputter and his techniques didn't attract those recruits that looked at NFL type skills.

So, i agree 2023 has to be a banner year, and if he's still replacing staff, it is not going to go well. And now we have to play the game of whether his current recruiting staff can land quality players to get us going towards a strong program.
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
12329 posts
Posted on 1/29/22 at 10:12 am to
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I don't compare it to Gus' first year, bc
Me either because...Gus didn't have all the recruiting changes (in fact no one has) with extra signing days, NIL, covid years, and the numbers of grad transfers (both in house and out) thrown in. There was more stability to work with.

Had been hoping these would of been of more benefit; however it's beginning to look the other way with the rich getting richer and the rest struggling for status quo. Where even their dead wood is jumping ship and allowing them to skim off more of the cream.
Posted by ALrabbitKilla
Member since Jan 2021
241 posts
Posted on 1/29/22 at 10:42 am to
Exactly what Saban warned everybody about before this every got started
Posted by aubiecat
Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
5094 posts
Posted on 1/29/22 at 11:07 am to
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Exactly what Saban warned everybody about before this every got started

Saban was just worried about other schools being able to do legally what bama has been doing since they've had a football program.
Posted by AuSteeler
montgomery. AL
Member since Jan 2015
2989 posts
Posted on 1/29/22 at 11:14 am to
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Me either because...Gus didn't have all the recruiting changes (in fact no one has) with extra signing days, NIL, covid years, and the numbers of grad transfers (both in house and out) thrown in. There was more stability to work with.

Had been hoping these would of been of more benefit; however it's beginning to look the other way with the rich getting richer and the rest struggling for status quo. Where even their dead wood is jumping ship and allowing them to skim off more of the cream.




Yeah. Its weird how all these options are being fruitful or a coaching change like ours.

It's not like we aren't a pretty successful football power right now. We go toe to toe w Alabama and have made our mark.

But its got to be bringing in that outsider from so far, with no connections down here that are going to make this transitition a slow one on the recruiting front.

But Harsin better feel like he is going to get that top 10 class for 2023, if he wants to win in in th trenches with the big boys of the SEC.

His plan has just been like the Stock market for now...
Posted by WarEaGAL
Member since Sep 2012
2146 posts
Posted on 1/29/22 at 1:15 pm to
Ooops let the time get away from me, glad it hasn't started!
Posted by WarEaGAL
Member since Sep 2012
2146 posts
Posted on 1/29/22 at 1:15 pm to
My bad, it was just a commercial, lol,

Edit: and I'm in the wrong thread...banner day!
This post was edited on 1/29/22 at 1:17 pm
Posted by ALrabbitKilla
Member since Jan 2021
241 posts
Posted on 1/29/22 at 1:41 pm to
On the NIL….absolutely.

I meant on the transfer portal
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
33517 posts
Posted on 1/29/22 at 1:57 pm to
quote:

I think people have to sit back and understand that we’re not a destination school in the Southeast right now


I think we all understand this, it's quite obvious, hence the frustration.

quote:

it’s going to take years to build the program up to respectable levels


That's not a given. There are coaches out there who could expedite the process, especially with the portal. It's becoming more and more clear the one we hired isn't one of those coaches.
Posted by WarEaGAL
Member since Sep 2012
2146 posts
Posted on 1/29/22 at 2:07 pm to
I just saw Caleb Nix accepted a "preferred walk on" offer from Clemson. So I had to go google difference between walk on and preferred walk on. Learn something new every day.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
16765 posts
Posted on 1/29/22 at 2:30 pm to
NIL is now like the pros, without contracts, and no salary cap. It should be an organization unto itself.

We need someone like Carmen Policy running the organization. One division for funding, setting up in channels, high rollers, medium, and that paraphernalia thingee nonsense we are working on.

Another division for contracts: current players, incoming freshmen, and for transfers.

Under recruiting we need a separate group of analysts to track the high school recruits we wanted and didnt get, and the ones we would love to have now. We should stay in touch with the contact people we engaged while recruiting them. Some of these kids will want to flip and if we have remained in contact with those around them we have a chance the second time around.

My point is, hiring a former player and telling him to "get after it", is VERY VERY naive. We can have the best "recruiting coaches" in the world but that wont mean squat when someone shows up from A&M gives them the same spiel about preparing for college, its a family atmosphere, and then whips out a powerpoint presentation to show mom and dad how your son will be funded, what he can expect as a ROI on his talent, etc.

Right now we are boasting about taking the training wheels off the bike and bama, georgia and A&M are building space shuttles.

Posted by TheJones
Member since Nov 2009
34093 posts
Posted on 1/29/22 at 4:25 pm to
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Right now we are boasting


We are?
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
16765 posts
Posted on 1/29/22 at 4:31 pm to
You understand my point Jones, we act as if this NIL is a little side bar, even when we saw the tip of the spear with A&M this cycle, its nothing compared to what it will become and I feel we arent ill prepared, we arent prepared at all.

The way a few QBs handled their recruitment this year will be the norm for all high 3 stars and above from now on.
Posted by Poker Dough
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2018
9419 posts
Posted on 1/29/22 at 5:28 pm to
Jason Campbell is over the NIL program now?
Posted by jt33
Member since Aug 2017
4729 posts
Posted on 1/29/22 at 5:30 pm to
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You understand my point Jones, we act as if this NIL is a little side bar, even when we saw the tip of the spear with A&M this cycle, its nothing compared to what it will become and I feel we arent ill prepared, we arent prepared at all.
Don't believe everything you hear about A&M.. they paid for sure, but not like the numbers people have been throwing around.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
107178 posts
Posted on 1/29/22 at 5:32 pm to
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but not like the numbers people have been throwing around.


Numbers being thrown around is 20-30 mil for that class.

What is the actual numbers and did you find a link that show the NIL payouts? I would be interested to see that.
This post was edited on 1/29/22 at 5:39 pm
Posted by jt33
Member since Aug 2017
4729 posts
Posted on 1/29/22 at 5:35 pm to
There aren't any official numbers. Even PM (I know.. I know) wrote an article the other day and he talked to someone he knows pretty good at TAM and they said the numbers we're anywhere close to whats actually being reported. I'm sure they still spent a couple of mil on that class as a whole though.. Its too good of a class to not have.
This post was edited on 1/29/22 at 5:36 pm
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
45213 posts
Posted on 1/30/22 at 11:21 am to
I see this guy recently visited. Pretty interesting highlight reel.

He seems to be a timing qb that can put the ball where he thinks the receiver will be. A lot like Bryce Young in his RPO passes too.

Don’t think I saw one play where he hit the second read though.

LINK
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