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re: What’s up with all Musselman leaving talk?

Posted on 3/10/24 at 1:06 pm to
Posted by Drewbie
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Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 3/10/24 at 1:06 pm to
Do you think Muss is leaving if he doesn't want to?

Even if they did want to run him off, it's not like they can. I like Beard so it wouldn't hurt my feelings if it happened, but everyone with a brain knows Muss isn't going to get fired for one bad year. If we go after Beard it'll be because Muss didn't want to be here. That's why I don't get the point in making it a dick measuring contest between Muss and Beard.

We should be happy to have rumored interest from top tier coaching prospects during a time when our current coach is being cagey about his future.
Posted by JeffLebowski
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 3/10/24 at 1:13 pm to
Agree. 1 bad season with an I conducive team + Muss’s prior track record =

Posted by Maytheporkbewithyou
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 3/10/24 at 1:23 pm to
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It's beyond hilarious that fans think Beard would leave OM to coach here.


If Arkansas runs Muss off after 1 bad season then there's literally no incentive for an established coach to come here.

If Muss does just want to move on then I believe 100% we could take Beard from Ole Miss. Louisville is a little better job than Arkansas. Arkansas is a massively better job than Ole Miss.

Yuracheck would have to offer a real contract with protection after how Texas treated Beard.
Posted by ArHog
Muss is a coward
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Posted on 3/10/24 at 1:46 pm to
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If Arkansas runs Muss off after 1 bad season then there's literally no incentive for an established coach to come here.


It's all about the nil now and OM is light years ahead of Arkansas in that regard.

He was given X amount of funds and in return they got a shite sandwich, hence the angst.
Posted by beebefootballfan
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 3/10/24 at 4:15 pm to
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He was given X amount of funds and in return they got a shite sandwich, hence the angst.


I would really love to see the proof in this. I seem to remember some pretty big pieces who went elsewhere before we landed most of ours. If he had unlimited funds that likely doesn't happen.

Your telling me we had unlimited funds and got

Transfer Rankings

23 - Mark
20- Battle
75 - Menfield
93 - Ellis
207 - Davenport
Who even knows Denijay Harris


Outside of Mark and maybe battle find me one guy who just screams wow we are rolling with max funds.

Now go pull the top transfer list and look at guys who went elsewhere. There was no max funds.

You’re telling me we had mad funds and we could only pull a top 20 transfer portal player?

I am more willing to believe we tried to be budget NIL and Muss is pissed and looking for somewhere thats got boosters willing to pay for Hunter Dickenson, Ware, or Nelson. All players we missed on.
This post was edited on 3/10/24 at 4:16 pm
Posted by cubsfan5150
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 3/10/24 at 5:48 pm to
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We should be happy to have rumored interest from top tier coaching prospects during a time when our current coach is being cagey about his future.


But do we? When was the last time that “the insiders” were right when it came to a coaching search? Mike Anderson?
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
Gods country
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 3/10/24 at 7:26 pm to
I’m with you on this.people hyping up our basketball NIL when in reality it’s in the same boat as football. We’ve just been more successful recently in basketball and have a more competent head coach so we’ve done better. But I’m terms of NIL we’ve been outbid in that sport just like we have in football.
Posted by The Sultan of Swine
Member since Nov 2010
7790 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 8:02 pm to
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I would really love to see the proof in this. I seem to remember some pretty big pieces who went elsewhere before we landed most of ours. If he had unlimited funds that likely doesn't happen. Your telling me we had unlimited funds and got Transfer Rankings 23 - Mark 20- Battle 75 - Menfield 93 - Ellis 207 - Davenport Who even knows Denijay Harris Outside of Mark and maybe battle find me one guy who just screams wow we are rolling with max funds. Now go pull the top transfer list and look at guys who went elsewhere. There was no max funds. You’re telling me we had mad funds and we could only pull a top 20 transfer portal player? I am more willing to believe we tried to be budget NIL and Muss is pissed and looking for somewhere thats got boosters willing to pay for Hunter Dickenson, Ware, or Nelson. All players we missed on.


I think the staff was really close and believed they had Grant Nelson and Ron Holland.

Close isn’t what you want but I think losing on both of them unexpectedly affected the rest of the cycle
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 3/10/24 at 8:15 pm to
What I don't understand is with so many misses from the portal, how was Arkansas ranked top 15 before the season began? What was the justification for being ranked that high and even being picked top five in the SEC?

Muss went 8-10 in the SEC with NBA talent but a transfer portal full of inferior talent is worthy to be ranked in the top 15? What evidence is deserved of that ranking?

That is where I believe the frustration is as we have been told before the season began that Arkansas was an elite basketball squad and some people in the media had them going to the Final Four.

But those are just assumptions and opinions as it is based on
full of unknowns from the portal.

The record doesn't lie about this team. This is a bad basketball team and they clearly had all of us fooled. The historically awful losses is proof of this.
This post was edited on 3/10/24 at 8:16 pm
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 3/10/24 at 8:19 pm to
I believe when Muss missed out on those two, it screwed up the portal class.

So Muss knew he was in trouble with a weak portal class before the season began.
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
21474 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 8:22 pm to
NIL is getting out of hand.
This post was edited on 3/10/24 at 8:23 pm
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 3/10/24 at 8:24 pm to
This is a completely different team if both of them landed here.
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
21474 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 8:39 pm to
Having unlimited funds do not exist.

Arkansas has many wealthy donors but so do many other programs with wealthy donors.

Some have less but some have more and deeper pockets.

The transfer portal is one thing but the NIL is a real danger to the sport.

It is going to be much worse now that Texas has joined with plenty of oil money to spend.

Aggies spent 30 million on a recruiting class which got Saban and Bama nervous.

You know it is real shite going on when Bama got worried about NIL and complained about the aggies.

No one else in the SEC has Texas money and I'm afraid they will use NIL to turn the SEC into another 80s SWC.

This post was edited on 3/10/24 at 8:43 pm
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
Gods country
Member since Sep 2016
16143 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 10:15 pm to
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No one else in the SEC has Texas money and I'm afraid they will use NIL to turn the SEC into another 80s SWC.
omfg Texas isn’t doing shite and hasn’t been shite in 20 years. They’ve got 1 national title in the last 50 fricking years. Georgia will own the conference for the foreseeable future and they aren’t running a conference with Georgia, Florida, alabama and lsu in it the way they ran one with Baylor and fricking rice. Get a grip. The only people that believe the delusion you’re selling is Texas fans themselves and other. “Rivals” of Texas who truly see themselves as inferior. It’s a real cuck mind set you’ve got there. Texas is nothing to fear.
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
21474 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 11:06 pm to
You're missing the point.

This has nothing to do with football or any sport but everything to do with money and politics.

Texas just used money and politics to get the SEC media days out of Birmingham and to Dallas.

Texas is a cancer and they will destroy the SEC.
This post was edited on 3/10/24 at 11:19 pm
Posted by Razorback Reverend
Member since Dec 2013
22814 posts
Posted on 3/11/24 at 12:15 am to
Dude, OUt of 15 posts on this thread page... 6 are yours. And most of them could have been said in the same post.

Have you learned how to quote yet, how to combine your thoughts.

It is like a huge run on paragraph divided by... your other posts.
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
Gods country
Member since Sep 2016
16143 posts
Posted on 3/11/24 at 6:36 am to
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Texas just used money and politics to get the SEC media days out of Birmingham and to Dallas. Texas is a cancer and they will destroy the SEC.
the media days will rotate now is all. The university of Texas does not have more power than the rest of the sec. That’s insanity.
Posted by beebefootballfan
Member since Mar 2011
19080 posts
Posted on 3/11/24 at 9:37 am to
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Razorback Reverend


Everytime i get to one or DC’s posts

Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
21474 posts
Posted on 3/11/24 at 11:04 am to
Texas will find a way to keep it in Texas eventually.

Yes the whole state of Texas has more money and power than the rest of the SEC.

This is why it was a had idea to let them join.
This post was edited on 3/11/24 at 11:28 am
Posted by FayetteNAM
Boston Mountains
Member since Jun 2013
7222 posts
Posted on 3/11/24 at 11:10 am to
quote:

This season was a disaster. Time to get out of Dodge while the gettin is good

Nah, last year was a good year to get out. Going back on deep run next year and then leaving is better for him. You don’t leave after a losing season.
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