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re: What’s up with all Musselman leaving talk?
Posted on 3/11/24 at 6:46 pm to BallHawg10
Posted on 3/11/24 at 6:46 pm to BallHawg10
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It’s crazy to me how nobody knows how our NIL situation actually definitively stacks up against other schools or in the recruitment of certain players but that doesn’t stop people from acting like they know everything for 100% fact.
Well considering our AD has actively spoken out against NIL and stated we wont play the game, I am pretty sure you can guess how ours stacks up.
But when Muss goes to Louisville and we replace him with some lame stan heath type enjoy the ride.
We’ve nobody to blame but ourselves.
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Posted on 3/11/24 at 7:03 pm to BallHawg10
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It’s crazy to me how nobody knows how our NIL situation actually definitively stacks up against other schools or in the recruitment of certain players but that doesn’t stop people from acting like they know everything for 100% fact.
Some folks can't read the tea leaves.
This post was edited on 3/11/24 at 7:04 pm
Posted on 3/12/24 at 8:16 am to ArHog
$500,000 is for the poor folks.
Sheduer Sanders has or had an NIL value of $4.7 million.
Sheduer Sanders has or had an NIL value of $4.7 million.
Posted on 3/12/24 at 9:06 am to dchog
Real talk nobody wants to agree with.
In terms of historical success our football program is at the bottom of the ladder when it comes to the SEC. We rank about 9th when it comes to historical success over the last 30 years.
That is about where we will always be. Win 6-8 games a year and I'll call it a success.
Our bread and butter is and will always be Basketball and Baseball in the SEC. I'm fine with that and believe our NIL focus should account for that as well.
In terms of historical success our football program is at the bottom of the ladder when it comes to the SEC. We rank about 9th when it comes to historical success over the last 30 years.
That is about where we will always be. Win 6-8 games a year and I'll call it a success.
Our bread and butter is and will always be Basketball and Baseball in the SEC. I'm fine with that and believe our NIL focus should account for that as well.
This post was edited on 3/12/24 at 9:07 am
Posted on 3/12/24 at 9:30 am to dchog
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It seems right now his ceiling is the Elite 8.
That is fine but Arkansas needs to end this Final Four drought.
The odds of slipping back into mediocrity and rarely making the tourney are a lot higher than making a Final 4 with replacing Muss.
Posted on 3/12/24 at 10:13 am to HogPharmer
True but it is embarrassing that South Carolina, LSU, Auburn and State all schools that have no history or care have more recent Final Four appearances than Arkansas.
29 years and counting.
It's time to put an end to this drought.
29 years and counting.
It's time to put an end to this drought.
Posted on 3/12/24 at 10:33 am to beebefootballfan
quote:since our natty in basketball we’ve finished in the top 10 In football just as much as we have in basketball. Actually more I think. Bottom line is since 94 we haven’t really done shite in either sport. And football makes way more money for the university when it’s good. This is what we should focus on. I’m not saying I don’t enjoy having great baseball and basketball teams But I think we should let every other program suffer if it means a good football team.
Real talk nobody wants to agree with. In terms of historical success our football program is at the bottom of the ladder when it comes to the SEC. We rank about 9th when it comes to historical success over the last 30 years. That is about where we will always be. Win 6-8 games a year and I'll call it a success. Our bread and butter is and will always be Basketball and Baseball in the SEC. I'm fine with that and believe our NIL focus should account for that as well.
Posted on 3/12/24 at 11:13 am to ArHog
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It’s crazy to me how nobody knows how our NIL situation actually definitively stacks up against other schools or in the recruitment of certain players but that doesn’t stop people from acting like they know everything for 100% fact.
I personally have no clue, but listening to national people who’ve talked to multiple athletic directors, including ours, we are in pretty good shape.
There will never be an AD saying we have enough money, don’t send no more here.
This post was edited on 3/12/24 at 11:15 am
Posted on 3/12/24 at 11:32 am to Hawgnsincebirth55
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since our natty in basketball we’ve finished in the top 10 In football just as much as we have in basketball. Actually more I think. Bottom line is since 94 we haven’t really done shite in either sport. And football makes way more money for the university when it’s good. This is what we should focus on. I’m not saying I don’t enjoy having great baseball and basketball teams But I think we should let every other program suffer if it means a good football team.
We will NEVER, and I mean NEVER have a *consistently* good football program. Period.
Posted on 3/12/24 at 11:32 am to dchog
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True but it is embarrassing that South Carolina, LSU, Auburn and State all schools that have no history or care have more recent Final Four appearances than Arkansas.
29 years and counting.
It's time to put an end to this drought.
And you think getting rid of Muss is way to do that?
Posted on 3/12/24 at 12:39 pm to HogPharmer
Did I say I wanted Muss gone?
Posted on 3/12/24 at 12:52 pm to dchog
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Did I say I wanted Muss gone?
Not directly. But you certainly imply that we'd be better off without him.
Posted on 3/12/24 at 1:24 pm to HogPharmer
quote:define good? I see no reason why we can’t be as consistently be as good as ole miss has been under kiffin and freeze. We just have to not make shitty/lazy hires. That would also help people loosen up the pocketbooks if they trusted whoever’s at the helm steering the ship.
will NEVER, and I mean NEVER have a *consistently* good football program. Period.
Posted on 3/12/24 at 1:26 pm to dchog
Just about every other tourney has a Cinderella that makes it to the final four. Auburn, SCAR were those.
What is more perplexing is Arkansas having a loseing record in basketball at this stage of his tenure. It's hard to relate to other teams and the past due to his recruiting strategy.
Most coaches suffer losing seasons early because rarely is a coach brought in to replace a coach who has a good team the year prior.
What is more perplexing is Arkansas having a loseing record in basketball at this stage of his tenure. It's hard to relate to other teams and the past due to his recruiting strategy.
Most coaches suffer losing seasons early because rarely is a coach brought in to replace a coach who has a good team the year prior.
Posted on 3/12/24 at 1:55 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
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define good? I see no reason why we can’t be as consistently be as good as ole miss has been under kiffin and freeze. We just have to not make shitty/lazy hires. That would also help people loosen up the pocketbooks if they trusted whoever’s at the helm steering the ship.
Fayetteville has never been in what you would consider "fertile recruiting grounds." Draw a 250 mile radius around Fayetteville and look at the talent within that circle. It's barren. Especially when you start comparing to other SEC schools. That has always been our problem. Generally, when we have good seasons, it's because we have a fantastic class of in-state recruits, which is an anomaly.
I understand the NIL game has changed that landscape to an extent. But so far, Arkansas has not shown the willingness to compete financially on the biggest fronts. It starts with not hiring a second rate coach. You can't have a guy that admits during a post-game presser in Year 4 that he doesn't know what he's doing. I wouldn't transfer to come play for that if I'm a high value kid. We have good facilities, but we go cheap on coaches. It's like building a million dollar house then filling it with cheap arse furniture from Ashley's.
Then we don't have the donor support to buy a solid roster. It's easier to do in basketball when you've got a small roster. But the support is just not there to get and keep a quality roster that can compete in the SEC.
We can wish as much as we want for that to not be true, but wishing doesn't change the fact that it is. And trust me, I wish it wasn't true. So don't think I'm just hating on the Hogs or our program. It's just the reality. And will be reality until something drastic changes.
Posted on 3/12/24 at 2:04 pm to HogPharmer
quote:exactly! I agree with everything you said and this is what we can control and have to change which we can. That’s my point
It starts with not hiring a second rate coach. You can't have a guy that admits during a post-game presser in Year 4 that he doesn't know what he's doing. I wouldn't transfer to come play for that if I'm a high value kid. We have good facilities, but we go cheap on coaches. It's like building a million dollar house then filling it with cheap arse furniture from Ashley's.
Posted on 3/12/24 at 2:05 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
IMO, "buying players" in an NIL sense is irrelevant if you don't still have a good coach to put it all together. And right now, we don't have that.
Posted on 3/12/24 at 2:10 pm to HogPharmer
I agree which is why I said the part we have control over as a university is hiring a good coach.
Posted on 3/12/24 at 2:13 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
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I agree which is why I said the part we have control over as a university is hiring a good coach.
We have to first as an administration start giving a frick about the football program.
So far, I've not seen that.
Posted on 3/12/24 at 2:15 pm to HogPharmer
I certainly didn't give any hint that Arkansas was better off without Muss.
Just because currently his ceiling is the Elite 8 doesn't mean he needs to go.
Just because currently his ceiling is the Elite 8 doesn't mean he needs to go.
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