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Posted on 11/22/23 at 8:13 pm to Drewbie
Posted on 11/22/23 at 8:13 pm to Drewbie
quote:And yet they couldn't score more than 30 ppg.
The passing record they set is 9 yards shy of Mallett's record here. It would be the 2nd best season in Arkansas QB history.
quote:You accused me of lying without showing where. Meanwhile, you've managed to mangle or distort stats to prove a point that was never true.
Except for where I already have. You've done nothing but slowly apply layer after layer of makeup this convo.
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Posted on 11/22/23 at 8:27 pm to silverstreak
quote:Deflect, deflect, deflect. First the record isn't impressive, then when the record is shown to be practically the exact same as ours, a completely unrelated stat isn't good enough. Clown behavior.
And yet they couldn't score more than 30 ppg.
quote:If you're still lost on this front, it's just you at this point.
You accused me of lying without showing where.
quote:I quoted the wrong column, which was fixed. Every single point I made is backed by the stats that exist. You don't have to distort anything to show that KJ is a terrible QB in comparison to anyone else Enos has coached. That's why you chose to go off the topic of QB development and bring up total offense and rushing attacks once his last QB's numbers were brought up.
Meanwhile, you've managed to mangle or distort stats to prove a point that was never true.
This post was edited on 11/22/23 at 8:36 pm
Posted on 11/22/23 at 8:34 pm to Drewbie
quote:Oh really? Like Enos outdoing us in almost every statistical category? We gained more yards and scored more points against a harder schedule. Only a dumbass would argue otherwise.
I quoted the wrong column, which was fixed. Every single point I made is backed by the stats that exist. You don't have to distort anything to show that KJ is a terrible QB in comparison to anyone else Enos has coached.
Posted on 11/22/23 at 8:39 pm to silverstreak
quote:The hell does that have to do with Enos as a QB developer? Do you even remember what your initial comment was? You're so far off the plot you're not even arguing the same point anymore.
We gained more yards and scored more points against a harder schedule. Only a dumbass would argue otherwise.
Posted on 11/22/23 at 9:05 pm to Drewbie
quote:Austin Allen, Cole Kelly, N'kosi Perry, Jarren Williams, KJ.
The hell does that have to do with Enos as a QB developer? Do you even remember what your initial comment was? You're so far off the plot you're not even arguing the same point anymore.
Tell us how Enos led the country in scoring.
Posted on 11/22/23 at 9:16 pm to silverstreak
Posted on 11/23/23 at 8:38 am to gohogs141
Sanders is a lesser Knile Davis. Put the freshman in and roll with it. At least he knows how to play the position and get downhill
Posted on 11/23/23 at 9:59 am to Drewbie
Son, you asked for a list of qbs that didn't perform well under all-star OC Dan Enos. I gave you a list. If you want an example of moving goalposts, that's exactly what you did when you brushed over Enos being fired twice, just because he wasn't also fired by Maryland. That is textbook moving the goalposts.
All you've done is show that you're too damn dumb to read and evaluate statistics. For instance, you've told us that Maryland had as balanced of an offense as we did, despite averaging 80 rushing yards less per game.
Hell, you told us that Maryland averaged 54 points per game. Any football fan would recognize that would be several sigma above average and would probably rank among the best in the modern era. Of course, that would only apply to people with something approaching a room temperature IQ. Leave the statistical analysis to your cognitive superiors (pretty much everyone).
All you've done is show that you're too damn dumb to read and evaluate statistics. For instance, you've told us that Maryland had as balanced of an offense as we did, despite averaging 80 rushing yards less per game.
Hell, you told us that Maryland averaged 54 points per game. Any football fan would recognize that would be several sigma above average and would probably rank among the best in the modern era. Of course, that would only apply to people with something approaching a room temperature IQ. Leave the statistical analysis to your cognitive superiors (pretty much everyone).
This post was edited on 11/23/23 at 10:14 am
Posted on 11/23/23 at 10:39 am to silverstreak
Cool thread guys.
Can ya'll please just meet at the Alma Sonic and settle this?
I'd like to go back to head coach in waiting conversations and Butch Davis as Head Coach Consultant scenarios.
Can ya'll please just meet at the Alma Sonic and settle this?
I'd like to go back to head coach in waiting conversations and Butch Davis as Head Coach Consultant scenarios.
Posted on 11/23/23 at 10:43 am to STLhog
Posted on 11/23/23 at 11:11 am to silverstreak
quote:Two pages later after completely derailing the conversation, but sure, and the fact that you think Austin Allen was the issue says a lot.
Son, you asked for a list of qbs that didn't perform well under all-star OC Dan Enos. I gave you a list.
quote:I literally directly responded to that and even called you out on incorrect info on it. I don't think you know what brushed over means.
If you want an example of moving goalposts, that's exactly what you did when you brushed over Enos being fired twice
quote:As balanced as we were when he was here the first time. As in his first stint at Arkansas. Not surprising you can't understand that either.
For instance, you've told us that Maryland had as balanced of an offense as we did, despite averaging 80 rushing yards less per game.
quote:You're hanging your hat on me misquoting one stat column while acting like you're not off your rocker pretending like Enos' offenses have been this poorly executed everywhere he's been.
Hell, you told us that Maryland averaged 54 points per game.
You've done nothing but deflect, obfuscate, and resort to basically anything that isn't the topic at hand because you know you don't have an argument. You asked who else lit it up under Enos, received your answer complete with stats to back it up, then immediately switched your tone and deflected to PPG and rushing yards. It's right there in plain english for all to see.
But keep calling people stupid to make yourself feel better about bringing literally nothing to the conversation.
This post was edited on 11/23/23 at 12:18 pm
Posted on 11/23/23 at 11:24 am to ArHog
quote:
I suspect 10-15 players to enter the portal soon, maybe more.
It’ll be north of 20, which is the norm for the Pittman era.
Granted, some will portal due to lack of PT or SEC ability, but rest assured we’ll lose some we’d rather not lose.
Posted on 11/23/23 at 1:48 pm to Feral
I have been told a very large number to the collective. Chance to upgrade here
Posted on 11/23/23 at 1:54 pm to sugatowng
I'd rather buy HS recruits and sprinkle in with a few portal racehorses like Fla State has been doing under Norvell.
There was a stat put out recently that 84% of the higher High School recruiters have won every game played so far this seson in FBS.
In the SEC, 74% of wins came by the better overall recruiter so far. That's been the norm for years, even before the portal.
Programs are still built on HS recruits. You better get a bunch of Drew Sanders types if you want to win with the portal in the SEC.
There was a stat put out recently that 84% of the higher High School recruiters have won every game played so far this seson in FBS.
In the SEC, 74% of wins came by the better overall recruiter so far. That's been the norm for years, even before the portal.
Programs are still built on HS recruits. You better get a bunch of Drew Sanders types if you want to win with the portal in the SEC.
This post was edited on 11/23/23 at 1:56 pm
Posted on 11/23/23 at 4:03 pm to Jack Ruby
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There was a stat put out recently that 84% of the higher High School recruiters have won every game played so far this seson in FBS.
In the SEC, 74% of wins came by the better overall recruiter so far. That's been the norm for years, even before the portal.
Programs are still built on HS recruits. You better get a bunch of Drew Sanders types if you want to win with the portal in the SEC.
Only 2 teams have won a national championship since 2007 without a top 3 class. Both had generational first round nfl starter quarterbacks.
Clemson with Deshaun Watson
Clemson with Trevor Lawrence
Posted on 11/23/23 at 4:03 pm to Jack Ruby
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Programs are still built on HS recruits. You better get a bunch of Drew Sanders types if you want to win with the portal in the SEC.
Meh. That’s true on the lines (specifically offensive line), but you can absolutely build the skill positions through the portal, and many teams like Ole Miss do and have. I’m speaking for non-CFP level teams like us.
You can’t flip an offensive line overnight but you can upgrade almost everywhere else, and we by and large have in the Pittman era. The season results don’t indicate it, but we upgraded our entire back 7 on defense last offseason. The year before that we got Landers and Haselwood at WR.
Granted, it doesn’t matter if our offensive line is horrid, which unfortunately was the case this year and likely next.
This post was edited on 11/23/23 at 4:05 pm
Posted on 11/23/23 at 4:12 pm to Feral
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Landers
Didn’t do much until the second half of the season.
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Haselwood
Didn’t do that much the whole season.
Posted on 11/23/23 at 4:30 pm to FayetteNAM
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Didn’t do much until the second half of the season.
Still our second best receiver of the last half decade
Posted on 11/23/23 at 4:30 pm to Drewbie
quote:Called me out on incorrect info? He was fired in a year vs less than a year? Lol
I literally directly responded to that and even called you out on incorrect info on it. I don't think you know what brushed over means.
quote:And yet you're still wrong. 2015 offense averaged 200 ypg rushing. 200 >140
As balanced as we were when he was here the first time. As in his first stint at Arkansas. Not surprising you can't understand that either.
quote:Just you. Not other people.
But keep calling people stupid to make yourself feel better about bringing literally nothing to the conversation.
This post was edited on 11/23/23 at 4:31 pm
Posted on 11/23/23 at 4:46 pm to FayetteNAM
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Only 2 teams have won a national championship since 2007 without a top 3 class. Both had generational first round nfl starter quarterbacks.
Clemson with Deshaun Watson
Clemson with Trevor Lawrence
And no one except Oklahoma in 2000 has won a title this century without at least one top 10 class in their 4-year recruting cycle.
Clemson kind of broke the mold by using Top 10-15 classes with a 1st round NFL QB at the helm. That's the only way to do it purs9de of stacking top 5 classes on top of top 5 classes like Bama, UGA, and Oh State do now.
Thats why most of the resources need to be thrown at HS recruits and maybe you can hit on a portal QB who is a future NFL guy like Penix.
Those are really the only ways to really compete now.
If Arkansas could ever revruit consistently on the top 8-15 like Oregon has been doing over the last few yrs, they could actually make some noise. Other than that it won't happen....especially when you constantly have to overcome your HC decisions in games.
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