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re: Rumors about buyout

Posted on 11/22/23 at 3:54 pm to
Posted by silverstreak
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Posted on 11/22/23 at 3:54 pm to
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Thank God for the internet.



Maryland's offense outperformed us by almost every offensive metric except rushing yards per game in 2021. Lil bro Tua threw for 3860 yards (sorry not quite 4,000, how embarrassing for him)

Keep in mind this was a program that hadn't even been to a bowl since 2016. They averaged over 200 yards per game both on the ground and through the air. They set a school record for passing yards in a season, then broke the school record for most points in a bowl game by scoring 53 in a win that year. All of this in year 1 under Enos. Sound familiar?
How about scoring? How did that compare? Also, what about last year? You seem to have omitted that.
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Something KJ has never done. Even if you want to remove the comparison of the two offenses completely, all you have to do is look at our stats from our most successful season with KJ and see that we averaged less than 100 passing yards per game to realize we've been heavily limited at the QB position for years.
Because we had solid run game. Last year, we ranked top 10 in rushing. Maryland ranked 81st.
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 11/22/23 at 3:57 pm to
The problem that was run into is so much time & resources had been invested into KJ, plus him being loyal to the school.

Choosing to cut bait on an investment like him would not be easy. The investment in him was a necessity because of lack of quality behind him, then this year we had better quality behind him but so much had already been invested into KJ. He’s our spruce goose.
This post was edited on 11/22/23 at 4:03 pm
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 11/22/23 at 5:48 pm to
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Them maybe both of them should have told K.J that he needed to explore more opportunities and get a quarterback from the portal that can run his offense?
The problem here is that KJ had probably already been promised his NIL money. I doubt Enos had much say in who the starting QB was, which is ultimately the crux of the issue.
This post was edited on 11/22/23 at 6:02 pm
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 11/22/23 at 5:52 pm to
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How about scoring? How did that compare?
27 ppg to 30 ppg.

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Last year, we ranked top 10 in rushing. Maryland ranked 81st.
I find it hilarious that every time the topic of QB play and development is brought up, the rushing game is used as the crutch of the argument.

You'd think people would start to see the contradiction there. Yes, we've had a QB that needed to be carried by the rushing attack for 4 years. That's the point.
This post was edited on 11/22/23 at 6:36 pm
Posted by silverstreak
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Posted on 11/22/23 at 6:07 pm to
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That's what the last number is. 54 ppg. We averaged 24. They averaged 30 more points per game than we did. They cleared us by more than we totaled.
They didn't average 54 ppg. Do you realize they'd be the top offense in the country?

Check cfbstats.com. Your stats are nowhere near accurate.

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I find it hilarious that every time the topic of QB play and development is brought up, the rushing game is used as the crutch of the argument.

You'd think people would start to see the contradiction there. Yes, we've had a QB that needed to be carried by the rushing attack for 4 years. That's the point.

Let me say this gain, LESS THAN 100 YARDS PASSING PER GAME
Ok? So because they couldn't run the ball for shite and had to pass more, he's a qb whisperer? That's pretty damn dumb. We averaged a yard more per pass last year. Also 70 more yards per game. You suck at this.

And fwiw, KJ wasn't carried by the run game. He was part of it.
This post was edited on 11/22/23 at 6:09 pm
Posted by dchog
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Posted on 11/22/23 at 6:10 pm to
That is one of many things that I don't like about the NIL. They are like NFL contracts, you can't get rid of them because you owe them all this money. So you ride them out as much as you can when you know someone else is better and paid far less. It's a damned scam.
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
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Posted on 11/22/23 at 6:10 pm to
Already fixed that, looked at the wrong column.
This post was edited on 11/22/23 at 6:48 pm
Posted by silverstreak
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Posted on 11/22/23 at 6:12 pm to
Still wrong
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 11/22/23 at 6:18 pm to
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So because they couldn't run the ball for shite and had to pass more
Rushing for over 100 yards per game isn't not being able to rush. They had the same type of balanced offense we saw when he was here the first time.

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You suck at this.
Tell me again how Enos got fired twice. I'm also still waiting on another QB that has sucked as bad as KJ under Enos' coaching.
This post was edited on 11/22/23 at 6:22 pm
Posted by silverstreak
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 11/22/23 at 6:25 pm to
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Rushing for 200 yards per game isn't not being able to rush. They had the same type of balanced offense we saw when he was here the first time.
Nope. Never got close to 200 ypg rushing. Again, your stats are way off. They averaged 140 ypg last year and 136 in 21.
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Tell me again how Enos got fired twice. I'm also still waiting on another QB that has sucked as bad as KJ under Enos' coaching.

Sure. He's been fired twice. His job is to score points and he couldn't do that. You disagree? But hey, keep telling about "Tua's little brother".
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
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Posted on 11/22/23 at 6:27 pm to
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Sure. He's been fired twice.
Within a year. Don't forget that part.

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His job is to score points and he couldn't do that. You disagree? But hey, keep telling about "Tua's little brother".
You do realize this whole conversation was about your disagreeing with Enos as a QB developer right? Bringing up the last QB he developed before KJ is quite literally the most relevant thing to this topic, but you know you don't have an argument so it's deflect about the offense as a whole and talk about the rushing game.
This post was edited on 11/22/23 at 7:08 pm
Posted by silverstreak
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 11/22/23 at 6:30 pm to
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Within a year. Don't forget that part. When did Maryland fire him?

Sure. He sucked so bad that he didn't get a year 2. Oh, but he didn't get fired 3 times so it's ok.

You got caught fudging or misreading stats already. I'd quit at this point.
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
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Posted on 11/22/23 at 6:33 pm to
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He sucked so bad that he didn't get a year 2.
He would still be at Maryland if he hadn't taken this job.

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You got caught fudging or misreading stats already.
I'd much rather look at the wrong column than be so desperate to display a hate boner for a man that I just make up bold faced lies about his employment.
Posted by silverstreak
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Posted on 11/22/23 at 6:35 pm to
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He would still be at Maryland if he hadn't taken this job.
Quite the accomplishment.

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I'd much rather look at the wrong column than be so desperate to display a hate boner for a man that I just make up bold faced lies about his employment.
Bold faced lies? Where?
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
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Posted on 11/22/23 at 6:37 pm to
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Quite the accomplishment.
They're better than we are. Not sure why you're throwing stones.


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Bold faced lies? Where?
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a guy that's been twice fired in less than a year
Even if you're trying to reference Miami firing him, they didn't do it until after the bowl, so he coached the whole year.
This post was edited on 11/22/23 at 6:56 pm
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
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Posted on 11/22/23 at 7:01 pm to
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That is one of many things that I don't like about the NIL. They are like NFL contracts, you can't get rid of them because you owe them all this money. So you ride them out as much as you can when you know someone else is better and paid far less. It's a damned scam.
Just one more reason to not be a college football coach. All of the hassle of having to handle rich professional athletes with a fraction of the authority.
Posted by silverstreak
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 11/22/23 at 7:40 pm to
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They're better than we are. Not sure why you're throwing stones.
Sure. We had an OC that sucked.

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Even if you're trying to reference Miami firing him, they didn't do it until after the bowl, so he coached the whole year.
That's your proof of a lie? Damn, you're desperate.
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
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Posted on 11/22/23 at 7:57 pm to
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Sure. We had an OC that sucked.
They broke school records and went to a bowl game for the first time in 5 years with the same OC.

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Damn, you're desperate.
One of us certainly is. To the point of obfuscating truth, apparently.
Posted by silverstreak
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 11/22/23 at 8:00 pm to
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They broke school records and went to a bowl game for the first time in 5 years with the same OC.
School records at Maryland are supposed to mean something? Maybe if you're a fluffer for shitty OCs.

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One of us certainly is. To the point of obfuscating truth, apparently.
Except you can't show where.
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 11/22/23 at 8:05 pm to
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School records at Maryland are supposed to mean something? Maybe if you're a fluffer for shitty OCs.
The passing record they set is 9 yards shy of Mallett's record here. It would be the 2nd best season in Arkansas QB history.

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Except you can't show where.
Except for where I already have. You've done nothing but slowly apply layer after layer of makeup this convo.



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