re: Let's talk About Pittman's new contract desires...

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OM had much easier schedules than we did.

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They also beat us.

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It also completely ignores the excellent job he has done in recruiting and the portal.

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By the numbers he's been right at average for an Arkansas head coach up to this point.

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It's a shallow view to support a shallow point that isn't really a problem to you unless you are a big booster. It isn't your money. Stop being butt hurt like it is and be happy that Pitt is getting a well deserved payday.

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It doesn't have to be your own money to want it allocated responsibly throughout the staff when you know you have a CEO-type coach that heavily relies on his assistants. Sorry if I don't agree with letting Sexton bend over this program and have us overpaying for one person and misusing funds in the long term. Very stupid and lazy argument there. It's not rocket science to put together that the more money Sam makes personally, the less funds there will be to give to assistants. The budget isn't infinite.

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They also beat us.

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He is 1-1 against Kiff with his loss being much more of a game than his win.

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By the numbers he's been right at average for an Arkansas head coach up to this point.

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You're right. Hicks and Starkel were just as good as Franks. You aren't being objective if this is your view of it.

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Sorry if I don't agree with letting Sexton bend over this program

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Sexton bends over damn near every SEC program. It's literally his job. He specializes in spreading cheeks for checks.

I'm actually impressed with Pitt. I've always thought he was a dumb arse for not using Sexton. What kind of idiot screws themselves out of millions of dollars in a sign of loyalty to people who will be anything but loyal if the situation was reversed?

I'm all for HY giving pittman incentives to make him a top coach over the next year or two. assuming he wins games in accordance of a top coach. double or triple the current ones even.

Top coaches don't drop games to a 6-6 auburn. Top coaches don't have big drop offs and find ways to always make a bowl game and go .500

I think he’s just setting the price high expecting to settle around 5 maybe 6 or get some restructured contract with better incentives. If he really wants 7 mil then I agree let him walk promote Kendall and keep Odom. But this is all for nothing because Pitt is here to stay

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Issue is Hunter by himself can't change the market prices or coaching salaries without tanking our program.

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Maybe he shouldn't've been flapping his gums about it then??

I agree with everything Drew said above.

Pittman is good, not great. When I looked back at 247 recruiting, we are above average for Arkansas period... Not much better.

He is a CEO coach who will only be as good as his talent, and coordinators.

He lost to 6-6 Auburn at home with Auburn having a 1st time HC who used to be at ... Arkansas State.

3rd in the west, and lost to Georgia by bunches... Not even competitive with Georgia.

Base and structure all $$$ to be incentives as to production in recruiting, and on the field results period.

You want 5 million win 9 next season, have a top 15 class... Wan't 6 million Win enough to be in a NY6 game.. want 7, win the SEC or at least get into the playoffs.

Something like the above. We must, must, MUST have more for assistants period!

The problem isn't paying them to coach, the issue is always what it costs to get rid of them when you no longer want to pay them to coach.

This is Pittman's last fbs hc job, he has no leverage for a huge buyout.

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Pittman in his first year was +1 coach effect, which is good. In his second year, he was +3, which is elite and one of the best HCs in the P5.

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Where does one go to see these rankings?

I honestly don’t know how any of the contract shite works, like most everyone else bitching about it.

But it seems we can all agree he isn’t 7.25m return. Maybe he is, it’s a break even with tickets if he sells 75k at $20 a ticket if you divide by the 7 home games. With a surplus of 500k a game.

I know tickets aren’t $20 a piece, so it’s actually a surplus. But that’s only for the head coaches cost. Now what about all the assistants that’s another 5.5m and the surplus is only 500k X 7 = 3.5m. Then we pay to rent that shite heap in Little Rock. Pay to rent wins in lower divisions.

All this to say I would like to see a 5m base with incentives that include winning the national championship that puts him at Sabans level that year, but if he loses them all, we still just have to pay $5m.

Ah yes. We were over due for the dreaded "everyone gets a bad case of the vapors and starts melting down" thread on football.

To start with... yes, coach salaries are going through the roof for college football. G5 teams are talking about 5 million dollar salaries for their coaches now to keep them from getting poached. An initial asking price of 7.25 isn't out of the question for someone who has had Pittman's results. Taking a team that was destroyed by the previous head coach and going 11-11 despite playing the toughest schedule in the country back to back? That puts you in pretty good company.

That would put him making more money than Kirby Smart!!!! Yep. And if you believe that Kirby Smart isn't going to be getting a pay raise soon I have ocean front property in Bentonville to offer you.

5 million a year, in a couple of years, is going to be a bottom feeder salary in the SEC after the next round of contract negotiations goes through. Right now it would put you solidly in the middle of the pack but in a few years... The good news is that nothing attracts elite level coaches like offering rock bottom prices on their salaries thank goodness.

So what is going to happen is this... Yurachek is going to respond to that offer with a counter offer. They are going to haggle over terms, which is what ADs and agents do. They will come to agreement for something a bit less than what Sexton wants and a bit more than what Yurachek wants. People on here will clutch their pearls and swoon over the figure.

The Arkansas Athletic Department will continue to turn a profit, something we managed to do for decades until Covid and Jeff Long's mismanagement put a hitch in our giddyup (we are going to be paying off those stadium upgrades for a while folks).

Or we can lowball Pittman, who can certainly afford to mosey off to his retirement home and kick back. Surely we will attract an elite level coach despite losing out on Drinkypoo to Missouri last time around and getting bailed out by Pittman when no one else wanted the job.