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Jeff Long vs Yuracheck

Posted on 7/16/21 at 8:58 am
Posted by FayetteNAM
Boston Mountains
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 7/16/21 at 8:58 am
Looking back, is it just me or did all he ever care about was making a splash hire and winning the press conference?

He hired BMFP, JLS, and fat Bert.
All names people knew

Yuracheck if we are honest has hired almost no one we knew or was on the radar at any point.

Never heard of Musselman, Pittman was a joke until signed, even Jordan Wieber. I don’t think she was really on the radar.
Posted by V Bainbridge
Member since Jul 2020
7795 posts
Posted on 7/16/21 at 10:19 am to
Long is a politician. Talked a good game, smiles for the cameras but had no idea what he was doing. Yuracheck seems to be someone who understands the landscape of college athletics and knows how to vet coaching candidates.

Like politicians, AD's bad decisions usually aren't immediately obvious. Long did significant damage to our sports programs. Just look at what he did in Kansas.
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
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Posted on 7/16/21 at 10:49 am to
Long botched the coaching search by doing zero research and hired a coach that was feeling the heat at Wisconsin. Then he ran his mouth on Twitter and brought an offense that the rest of the SEC was beginning to put aside for the spread.

I wanted Mike Gundy at the time and I think he would come here if Arkansas was being more serious. No way in hell would Arkansas go 0-8 in the SEC with that talent. But Bert found a way!
Posted by FayetteNAM
Boston Mountains
Member since Jun 2013
7208 posts
Posted on 7/16/21 at 11:14 am to
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Long botched the coaching search by doing zero research and hired a coach that was feeling the heat at Wisconsin. Then he ran his mouth on Twitter and brought an offense that the rest of the SEC was beginning to put aside for the spread.

I wanted Mike Gundy at the time and I think he would come here if Arkansas was being more serious. No way in hell would Arkansas go 0-8 in the SEC with that talent. But Bert found a way!


I wanted anyone but Bert. We were never going to over power Bama lines. We can get quicker and outscheme teams. But we don’t have 5 stars on our 4th string of the line. Then we extended his contract for no reason.
Posted by FayetteNAM
Boston Mountains
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 7/16/21 at 11:15 am to
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Just look at what he did in Kansas.


I was actually listening to a podcast about the big 12 and they mentioned Kansas and how far it had fallen. That’s what made me think of this.
Posted by gohogs141
Fayetteville
Member since Jun 2011
7512 posts
Posted on 7/16/21 at 11:25 am to
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We were never going to over power Bama lines.


People say this, but we got closer to beating them under him than anyone has in a long time. I'm not sure style of offense is why he failed here.
Posted by FayetteNAM
Boston Mountains
Member since Jun 2013
7208 posts
Posted on 7/16/21 at 11:45 am to
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People say this, but we got closer to beating them under him than anyone has in a long time. I'm not sure style of offense is why he failed here.

Are you saying Chad Morris wasn’t able to slay Saban?

Because Bobby got just as close as Bert. And had us in a way better position in other games.
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 7/16/21 at 11:46 am to
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People say this, but we got closer to beating them under him than anyone has in a long time. I'm not sure style of offense is why he failed here.


I think people forget we had one of the most balanced and fun to watch offenses in the country for a couple of years. In the back 7 games of 2015, we averaged more than 46 points a game. Enos/Allen was probably the biggest factor in all of that. Bert obviously deserves a ton of blame for what he did and what happened after he left but his approach on offense was actually very good imo.
Posted by gohogs141
Fayetteville
Member since Jun 2011
7512 posts
Posted on 7/16/21 at 11:50 am to
We lost in 2014 by one point and in 2015 by 13. Outside of 2010, Bobby's teams got boatraced by Alabama.

Petrino was obviously a MUCH better coach but we were extremely fortunate in 2011 in several games that we came back and won late against pretty shitty teams, while Bielema always seemed to find ways to lose those. Having a decent kicker like Hocker probably won Petrino 3-4 games during his tenure that Bielema ended up losing because our kickers were awful.
Posted by Porker Face
Midnight
Member since Feb 2012
15318 posts
Posted on 7/16/21 at 12:30 pm to
Half the time people say "friends of the program" or the "board of trustees" or Jerry Jones are making these hires
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
21141 posts
Posted on 7/16/21 at 1:44 pm to
Bert lost the State game in 2015 when he took the ball out of the hands of Brandon Allen and put it on the kicker. My dad told me let's go home because the game is over. It was 4th and short, the ball didn't even travel high enough and hit the arms of a state defender. The air just sucked out of the stadium with dead silence.

Bert cost Arkansas a bid to the Sugar Bowl and what could have been a very good year.
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
21141 posts
Posted on 7/16/21 at 1:56 pm to
Bobby would have at least won once against Bama with the 2014 and 2015 teams.

Vandy and A&M were decent teams. Ole Miss was bad but they always played better against us.

If Bert had the 2010 and 2011 teams, they would be 7-5 or 8-4.
Posted by Porcine Human
Fayetteville, Arkansas
Member since Feb 2016
11210 posts
Posted on 7/16/21 at 2:08 pm to
Yep, it was the defense falling off that did him in
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
21141 posts
Posted on 7/16/21 at 2:23 pm to
He lost the Petrino players on both sides of the ball from the 2013-2015 teams. Once Austin Allen started to get hurt, it got worse from that point on.
Posted by Poker_hog
Member since Mar 2019
2919 posts
Posted on 7/16/21 at 7:43 pm to
My one beef with Yuracheck is he seems to pride himself on not overpaying for a coach. Everyone is happy with pittboss, but let's not act like he was Yuracheck's first choice. That coaching search dragged on for weeks. It seems we had several guys tell us no because of money.

I mean does anyone think Pittman will elevate us to a top 20 program? I don't. He's here to restore us to a middle of the pack SEC program.

This post was edited on 7/16/21 at 7:44 pm
Posted by FayetteNAM
Boston Mountains
Member since Jun 2013
7208 posts
Posted on 7/16/21 at 8:11 pm to
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It seems we had several guys tell us no because of money.


I think it was just Kiffin and he was playing us for a big pay day. If he hadn’t been playing us against Ole Miss he probably would have got him.
Posted by johnzorback
Member since Apr 2012
4122 posts
Posted on 7/16/21 at 8:55 pm to
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I mean does anyone think Pittman will elevate us to a top 20 program? I don't.

Then don't watch.
Posted by pioneerbasketball
Team Bunchie
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 7/16/21 at 9:08 pm to
Controversy follows long
Posted by oklahogjr
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Member since Jan 2010
36748 posts
Posted on 7/16/21 at 9:20 pm to
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mean does anyone think Pittman will elevate us to a top 20 program? I don't. He's here to restore us to a middle of the pack SEC program.


I'm not convinced any of the other coaches we were in on would have done us any favors long term. Pittman is a good value choice honestly and that kind of selection will eventually pay off. Over paying for these coaches getting locked into buyout, ending up in court disputes.... While he's not the flashiest hire, he's definitely not a bad one.
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42346 posts
Posted on 7/16/21 at 9:26 pm to
Musselman was well known and towards the top of most power 5 school opening lists, if for nothing more than online discussions.

The questions were how he would do or if he would recruit highschool players and how the transfer game would work out in a power conference.

It's a little different taking guys looking for playing time from power 5 rosters and competing in the MWC, MVC, OVC, or conusa versus bringing in guys who can play in the SEC. I think if anyone was being completely honest most of the transfers being brought up from the lower conferences gave an at best wait and see approach as to if they would contribute before now. It has worked out and could draw comparisons to a coach who supplemented his roster of his recruits with JUCO transfers in the past if one wanted to have a real discussion about the topic.

Hunter's hiring those who want to be here approach as with Muss and Pitman sounds great, but the real test would be if one of them was lack luater to mediocre at best and if he would keep them because they want to be here, love the helmet, etc or if he'd go out and find the next one who wanted to be here. Firing Chad was a no brainer, so nothing is to be learned from this, hiring him delayed his return to Texas HS football in the first place.
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