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“I blame the negative fanbase for these instate football misses”
Posted on 7/7/24 at 11:06 am
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Posted on 7/7/24 at 11:23 am to hawgfaninc
Posted on 7/7/24 at 11:42 am to hawgfaninc
It’s not the reason and I can’t blame fans for constantly bitching about the state of the program but there really isn’t anything remotely positive that comes out of it either except for maybe making fans feel better about getting it off their chest lol
Posted on 7/7/24 at 2:27 pm to hawgfaninc
It's nowhere near the biggest problem we have in recruiting, but there's probably some truth to it outside of that last line.
The record has been "mediocre" because we've done nothing but hire bad to mediocre coaches since Petrino fell off the bike. We had all the recruiting momentum in the world after 2021 and did absolutely nothing with it.
The record has been "mediocre" because we've done nothing but hire bad to mediocre coaches since Petrino fell off the bike. We had all the recruiting momentum in the world after 2021 and did absolutely nothing with it.
This post was edited on 7/7/24 at 2:36 pm
Posted on 7/7/24 at 3:43 pm to hawgfaninc
I blame the administration for the negative fanbase.
Chicken\ egg argument
Chicken\ egg argument
Posted on 7/7/24 at 4:48 pm to hawgfaninc
Funny, I don't remember getting paid millions to run the program, recruit kids, and pretend we don't suck
Guess I will adjust my attitude once the check gets here
Guess I will adjust my attitude once the check gets here
Posted on 7/7/24 at 4:49 pm to Drewbie
Pittman was on top of the world after 2021 and was doing just fine until that Superman jump in the A&M game.
He had them on track after beating Auburn and BYU. But came unprepared and lost against a far more motivated Liberty team in front of a crowd that might as well be at a funeral service.
Then more ugly losses with LSU and Missouri.
What could have been a solid season like the year before was instead nothing short of underwhelming. Last year was the same BS.
He had them on track after beating Auburn and BYU. But came unprepared and lost against a far more motivated Liberty team in front of a crowd that might as well be at a funeral service.
Then more ugly losses with LSU and Missouri.
What could have been a solid season like the year before was instead nothing short of underwhelming. Last year was the same BS.
Posted on 7/7/24 at 4:55 pm to Drewbie
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We had all the recruiting momentum in the world after 2021 and did absolutely nothing with it.
This is why I don’t always buy it when people say one good season can turn our recruiting around. It seems like even when we do have good seasons we recruit around the same range regardless of coach. More often than not it just turns out to be a flash in the pan.
Posted on 7/7/24 at 5:34 pm to gohogs141
It would take decades of consistent winning at a higher level to see any change in recruiting.
Back when Arkansas was good in the 60s through the 80s, those teams then weren't loaded if you go by the NFL drafts. But they had a lot of really good college players that were all conference or made all American teams. That is what Arkansas is lacking now.
Coaches like Broyles, Holtz, Hatfield and even Petrino didn't have teams full of future NFL players but they were all above average college coaches that coached up and developed players to full potential.
But more importantly they took advantage of opportunities when presented itself and won alot of one possession games.
Back when Arkansas was good in the 60s through the 80s, those teams then weren't loaded if you go by the NFL drafts. But they had a lot of really good college players that were all conference or made all American teams. That is what Arkansas is lacking now.
Coaches like Broyles, Holtz, Hatfield and even Petrino didn't have teams full of future NFL players but they were all above average college coaches that coached up and developed players to full potential.
But more importantly they took advantage of opportunities when presented itself and won alot of one possession games.
This post was edited on 7/7/24 at 5:36 pm
Posted on 7/7/24 at 7:00 pm to dchog
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Back when Arkansas was good in the 60s through the 80s, those teams then weren't loaded if you go by the NFL drafts. But they had a lot of really good college players that were all conference or made all American teams. That is what Arkansas is lacking now.
That's because every kid thinks they are NFL night 1 potential their sophomore year of HS
"Come be 3 year all conference at arkansas instead of riding the bench at alabama" is not an appealing sales pitch in an era of unlimited transferring. They think they need to "get tape" and get stats under staffs with NFL connections. Winning games at the college level is meaningless
There are 1000 JT Daniels and Cade Fortins for every Drew Sanders
Posted on 7/7/24 at 7:22 pm to hawgfaninc
Cal and DVH are doing just fine recruiting with those same negative fans.
Pittman was hired because of money and he was retained because money. Admin isn’t investing in football and neither are the fans.
Pittman was hired because of money and he was retained because money. Admin isn’t investing in football and neither are the fans.
Posted on 7/8/24 at 12:24 am to dchog
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Coaches like Broyles, Holtz, Hatfield and even Petrino didn't have teams full of future NFL players but they were all above average college coaches that coached up and developed players to full potential.
With the current landscape of college football, kids won't hang around to get coached up.
Even Petrino had mediocre classes. I remember the talking heads,specifically the midget, blasting if the services would rerank them at seasons end we'd have a bunch of 4/5 stars.
This post was edited on 7/8/24 at 12:25 am
Posted on 7/8/24 at 8:13 am to hawgfaninc
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“I blame the negative fanbase for these instate football misses”
I'm sure it doesn't help. Although, the much bigger issue is probably other major programs telling these kids that they likely have no idea who their head coach is going to be by the time they set foot on campus. That falls squarely on Sam and his performance.
Minor tangent: I am more than ready to show Pittman the door, but I don't understand complaining incessantly on social media for months on end...even when it's a positive for the program. We get a major pickup and the first Twitter comment is "who cares, he's playing for Pittman".
Same thing with baseball. We could pick up a dude hitting .400 with 30 home runs and the first comment is "Don't worry, Nate will have him hitting .230 by the end of the year".
If you can't even let yourself celebrate the good events that happen to your favorite team, it might be time to take a step back and log off for a while.
This post was edited on 7/8/24 at 9:25 am
Posted on 7/8/24 at 1:20 pm to hawgfaninc
In semi-pro there are no "in-state" kids anymore. Money got rid of state lines.
Posted on 7/8/24 at 2:13 pm to ArHog
quote:To be fair, this did eventually happen. The Wright, Childs, Adams class ended up being ranked top 10 retroactively by multiple services. Some even had it top 5.
I remember the talking heads,specifically the midget, blasting if the services would rerank them at seasons end we'd have a bunch of 4/5 stars.
This post was edited on 7/8/24 at 2:16 pm
Posted on 7/8/24 at 3:09 pm to boogiewoogie1978
Agree. NIL ruined any allegiances to in state or home schools.
However, the Hogs have always been more successful when they have star players from right here at home. The lifetime Razorbacks just play harder than the out of state kids when it gets down to the nut cutting
However, the Hogs have always been more successful when they have star players from right here at home. The lifetime Razorbacks just play harder than the out of state kids when it gets down to the nut cutting
Posted on 7/8/24 at 5:24 pm to Poker_hog
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Cal and DVH are doing just fine recruiting with those same negative fans.
This. If we just would've hired fricking Kiffin we'd be set right now. Look at Ole Miss. If we can't compete with them financially we should just fold up the shop. Pitt Boss sucks hind tit. We have to make a great hire after he gets canned mid season
Posted on 7/8/24 at 5:47 pm to Hubbhogg
Yeah we really shite the bed with Kiffin. Not good.
Is it time for Coach Prime? We aren’t getting a top tier coach, so maybe it’s time to think outside the box. He would immediately elevate our recruiting and brand.
Is it time for Coach Prime? We aren’t getting a top tier coach, so maybe it’s time to think outside the box. He would immediately elevate our recruiting and brand.
Posted on 7/8/24 at 7:47 pm to CFB_Fanatic
Jesus I initially thought Pitt said that and my blood pressure went through the roof
Posted on 7/9/24 at 7:47 am to Hubbhogg
quote:it’s not that we can’t it’s that we won’t. Same reason we hired Pittman is same reason we kept him last year, and same reason our nil is so far behind. Hunter Yurachek is trying to save a buck anywhere he can and it’s fricking us. Time for Hunter to go.
If we just would've hired fricking Kiffin we'd be set right now. Look at Ole Miss. If we can't compete with them financially we should just fold up the shop
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