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re: Hunter Yurachek Statement (Sunday afternoon 1 p.m.)
Posted on 11/19/23 at 5:04 pm to Razorback Reverend
Posted on 11/19/23 at 5:04 pm to Razorback Reverend
Is it?
We saw last night we've had a RB who could gain yards. He hasn't been used.
Makes you question if it's bad reads in RPOs, holding the ball too long, slow developing plays, or bad receivers also responsible for what we saw from the oline.
Basically is it favoritism, bad recruiting, bad coaching, or all of it combined?
We saw last night we've had a RB who could gain yards. He hasn't been used.
Makes you question if it's bad reads in RPOs, holding the ball too long, slow developing plays, or bad receivers also responsible for what we saw from the oline.
Basically is it favoritism, bad recruiting, bad coaching, or all of it combined?
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Posted on 11/19/23 at 5:09 pm to DaleDenton
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bad recruiting
is 2/3 of the issue.... to be a 7-9 win team.
He didn't lose the ability to win 9 overnight. Talent man, talent...
He will never be a great coach, as we all know. But better than the recent means would suffice because we are Arkansas.
But, carry on stoking the fires. You are incredible at building angst!
Posted on 11/19/23 at 5:11 pm to Razorback Reverend
So your saying we need players to win despite of Sam, Sam doesn't pick up wins for them in coaching.
What would you out his +/- in terms of wins?
Based on the last 3 seasons I'm leaning towards -3.
What would you out his +/- in terms of wins?
Based on the last 3 seasons I'm leaning towards -3.
Posted on 11/19/23 at 5:23 pm to RazorHawg
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Our team was extremely excited last night after the game when I informed them that Coach Pittman is our head coach and will be moving forward into the 2024 season.
Who gives a shite?
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This has not been the season any of us anticipated.
Why has our season sucked? Sam can’t answer. You can’t answer. We’re just going to play it back in ‘24 with no answers? Let’s just come together and work hard guys! frick you. GTFO.
Posted on 11/19/23 at 5:23 pm to DaleDenton
We don’t have any money.
Posted on 11/19/23 at 5:54 pm to STLhog
I can 100% assure you this was not about the money. Yes, Sam's buyout is stupid and was a bad decision on Hunter's part, but the money would be there to get rid of him if Yurachek truly wanted to.
This is about something behind the scenes we aren't privvy to. Maybe Sam and Hunter had a come to Jesus meeting about what needs to happen on both of their ends to be more successful, and Hunter gave Sam some promises as far as NIL and resources for coordinators, assistants, and analysts, etc.
Maybe Hunter put feelers out to the coaching community and didn't feel like he could land anyone worth shelling out $20+ million to replace Sam.
Maybe Pittman made some promises and came with a detailed plan on what he intends to do to right the ship, and Hunter is willing to give him the opportunity to prove it or retire after the 2024 season with a lessened buyout and a cleaner breakup, instead of firing him if he doesn't perform.
Who knows. I do know that Yurachek has seen something to make him believe that this isn't an idea that'll nosedive and tank the program, whatever that may be. He's not stupid and knows football is the most important sport on campus and in the state. It even effects things like enrollment, donations to the university itself, the endowment, etc.
I'm just as puzzled by the decision as anyone, to me the losses at home are unforgivable and fireable offenses just about anywhere. But there is something that Yurachek sees or believes in that led him to make this decision, some changes that he believes can right the ship.
I'm still not 100% convinced that what we're seeing and hearing is the end of the story.
This is about something behind the scenes we aren't privvy to. Maybe Sam and Hunter had a come to Jesus meeting about what needs to happen on both of their ends to be more successful, and Hunter gave Sam some promises as far as NIL and resources for coordinators, assistants, and analysts, etc.
Maybe Hunter put feelers out to the coaching community and didn't feel like he could land anyone worth shelling out $20+ million to replace Sam.
Maybe Pittman made some promises and came with a detailed plan on what he intends to do to right the ship, and Hunter is willing to give him the opportunity to prove it or retire after the 2024 season with a lessened buyout and a cleaner breakup, instead of firing him if he doesn't perform.
Who knows. I do know that Yurachek has seen something to make him believe that this isn't an idea that'll nosedive and tank the program, whatever that may be. He's not stupid and knows football is the most important sport on campus and in the state. It even effects things like enrollment, donations to the university itself, the endowment, etc.
I'm just as puzzled by the decision as anyone, to me the losses at home are unforgivable and fireable offenses just about anywhere. But there is something that Yurachek sees or believes in that led him to make this decision, some changes that he believes can right the ship.
I'm still not 100% convinced that what we're seeing and hearing is the end of the story.
This post was edited on 11/19/23 at 5:57 pm
Posted on 11/19/23 at 5:56 pm to RazorHawg
We better make a final four or win a baseball national title. If not I don’t see any way HY is here this time next year.
HY seems to be waiting for sam’s record to drop below 50% so he can brag about not paying a high buyout. What a douche.
HY seems to be waiting for sam’s record to drop below 50% so he can brag about not paying a high buyout. What a douche.
Posted on 11/19/23 at 6:03 pm to Poker_hog
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We better make a final four or win a baseball national title. If not I don’t see any way HY is here this time next year.
Outside of this message board, Yurachek is seen as a quality, top AD. As a whole, the athletic dept is doing better than ever and has 33 championships to their name under Hunter's watch.
2 of the big 3 sports are near the top of their respective leagues. Literally football and women's basketball are the only ones struggling, the rest of our programs are killing it.
That's not to mention Musselman is probably gone if Yurachek goes. It's widely known that they're close, and HY is a big reason for Muss's staying on board and happy here.
Posted on 11/19/23 at 6:14 pm to RazorBroncs
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Outside of this message board, Yurachek is seen as a quality, top AD. As a whole, the athletic dept is doing better than ever and has 33 championships to their name under Hunter's watch. 2 of the big 3 sports are near the top of their respective leagues. Literally football and women's basketball are the only ones struggling, the rest of our programs are killing it. That's not to mention Musselman is probably gone if Yurachek goes. It's widely known that they're close, and HY is a big reason for Muss's staying on board and happy here.
Nobody cares about the non big three sports. If we regress in basketball and baseball HY is in trouble.
Muss is not here because of a friendship. He’s happy because he feels supported. No AD in their right mind would eff with Muss.
There’s no reason to keep Pittman around except for money. He’s not an up and comer coach that will eventually figure things out. He’s a stop gap at the tail end of his career. He’s not even a stop gap at this point. He’s a complete liability.
Posted on 11/19/23 at 6:19 pm to DaleDenton
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Sam doesn't pick up wins for them in coaching.
What would you out his +/- in terms of wins?
Based on the last 3 seasons I'm leaning towards -3.
Sam's progression over the last 2 yrs is pretty bad. And yes, he is -3 at least in terms of Coach Effect.
In 2020, he was +1
In 2021, he was +2
In 2022, he was 0
This year, he is -3 and will probably go to -4 with a home loss to Mizzou.
-4 typically means very very very bad news in major CFB, but not at Arkansas apparently.
Sam's drop-off last year was the first real sign of something being very wrong with the program. He had a top 10 coaching staff nationally (by the metrics across the board) yet still only went 6-6 and his +/- was zero....in year three with a veteran and supposedly cohesive coaching staff.
Those are just the facts by the metrics. Zero opinion.
Also, almost no one goes from -4 back into the positive again.
Now for the prediction. Even if Sam majorly improves his coaching staff (including the defensive support staff) and can somewhat get to back to the level he had in 2021/22, his progression shows he will probably still not win more than 6 games next year (and that is being extremely generous).
More than likely you are looking at a 4-5 win season unless he miraculously lands an NFL QB who can lift the tides of the entire program.
Also, fore reference:
Curt Cignetti is +8 this season
Jamie Chadwell is +4.
Jeff Traylor is +1.
Barry Odom is +4.
This post was edited on 11/19/23 at 6:22 pm
Posted on 11/19/23 at 6:42 pm to Jack Ruby
Can you imagine the level of fan backlash and vitriol that will come out if - right after this statement from HY and Pittman - we lose to Mizzou at home something like 42-13?
The timing of this whole thing is just weird. It seems ill advised.
Posted on 11/19/23 at 6:50 pm to RazorBroncs
Didn’t you say he was gone first?
What happened to that source of information?
What happened to that source of information?
Posted on 11/19/23 at 7:04 pm to STLhog
Yes I personally believed he was gone, but I was clear I didn't have "sources". Just know a few people, one in particular, that runs in a tight circle of big money guys close to the athletic department.
Obviously there was reason to believe it was a done deal, when it wasn't just me or random posters hearing it. I'm still perplexed as to what happened behind the scenes
I've made it pretty clear that it was just my opinion there was no way he survives, though
Posted on 11/19/23 at 7:37 pm to RazorBroncs
The SEC is a football conference first.
An SEC program is judged on the shape of the football program.
Because the football program is bad , that makes the whole Arkansas sports reputation as bad to the rest of the conference.
Football is the image and money for the conference.
Going 4-8 each year is not sustainable for fans living with inflation and not consuming products as much in the past.
Season tickets holders are slowly diminishing each year.
Arkansas cannot afford to let the football program turn into another Vandy.
Bad football has it's consequences and it will hurt other sports that Arkansas is good at and we cannot have that.
An SEC program is judged on the shape of the football program.
Because the football program is bad , that makes the whole Arkansas sports reputation as bad to the rest of the conference.
Football is the image and money for the conference.
Going 4-8 each year is not sustainable for fans living with inflation and not consuming products as much in the past.
Season tickets holders are slowly diminishing each year.
Arkansas cannot afford to let the football program turn into another Vandy.
Bad football has it's consequences and it will hurt other sports that Arkansas is good at and we cannot have that.
Posted on 11/19/23 at 7:57 pm to dchog
Did I once advocate against anything you're saying? I fully believe Pittman should be gone and the administration needs to fork over whatever it can to support a winning product.
My only argument was that there won't be a push to fire HY with those accomplishments in other sports, outside of message board and Twitter posters that only care about football
Posted on 11/19/23 at 8:40 pm to RazorBroncs
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I can 100% assure you this was not about the money. Yes, Sam's buyout is stupid and was a bad decision on Hunter's part, but the money would be there to get rid of him if Yurachek truly wanted to.
this is 90% about the money.... and 10% about relationships.
Calls were made, and boosters are not interested in buying out Sam at this point.
I felt this would be the case early last week. Not sure why, other than what I said above. I don't see Sam turning it around period
Posted on 11/19/23 at 8:45 pm to Razorback Reverend
Is it because they like Sam and the direction of the program or is it because it's an absurd amount of money due to HY being bent over a barrel by Sexton?
Posted on 11/19/23 at 8:49 pm to DaleDenton
Feels like they’re hanging Yurachek out to dry on this one to teach a lesson. I could be wrong though.
Posted on 11/19/23 at 8:54 pm to Razorback Reverend
They don't want to pay his buyout because maybe they are tired of this revolving door of spending millions in buyouts that go to waste.
Coach gets fired, millions spent paying his buyout.
Coach gets hired then fired. Millions spent paying his buyout.
Coach gets hired then fired. Millions spent paying his buyout.
That would get old real fast.
Coach gets fired, millions spent paying his buyout.
Coach gets hired then fired. Millions spent paying his buyout.
Coach gets hired then fired. Millions spent paying his buyout.
That would get old real fast.
Posted on 11/20/23 at 6:37 am to RazorBroncs
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To me, it's the timing of the statement that's the weirdest.
Well you’d have to believe that HY had already made up his mind. And we’re all seeing the backlash to him making the decision now. Could you imagine if that statement was released after a 30-40+ loss to Mizzou?
I feel like he had to release it after a win for there to be any chance it would be received well.
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