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re: Exactly how hot is the Pitt Boss's seat?
Posted on 12/19/22 at 7:32 pm to The Sultan of Swine
Posted on 12/19/22 at 7:32 pm to The Sultan of Swine
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Or could it be because we went 6-6 and lost to Liberty?
He went 9-4 last year and lost to a crappy Auburn team, but he was a hero for winning 9 games. He and the team screwed up by winning too many games last year and no forgiveness is given for a rebuild year even though he made a bowl.
But folks are saying Saban sucks after losing 2 games so this speaks to the mentality of some people who watch football games.
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Posted on 12/19/22 at 7:42 pm to ArHog
That non-conference schedule looks easier but Arkansas has a history of losing to these shitty arse teams and so anything is possible with Arkansas and losing to the likes of Liberty is the norm.
They shouldn't go 4-8 but many fans thought this team shouldn't have gone 6-6 this year either.
They shouldn't go 4-8 but many fans thought this team shouldn't have gone 6-6 this year either.
Posted on 12/19/22 at 7:50 pm to The Sultan of Swine
The Liberty game was just awful and I believe had Arkansas won that game then at 7-5 the complaining wouldn't be so bad.
6-6 isn't the point but more than a few winnable games were Arkansas just wasn't prepared, not interested in the opponent and lack of urgency was missing unlike last year.
6-6 isn't the point but more than a few winnable games were Arkansas just wasn't prepared, not interested in the opponent and lack of urgency was missing unlike last year.
Posted on 12/19/22 at 7:58 pm to dchog
quote:this is exactly the issue. Win 2 more games and we're having very different discussions.
The Liberty game was just awful and I believe had Arkansas won that game then at 7-5 the complaining wouldn't be so bad.
6-6 isn't the point but more than a few winnable games were Arkansas just wasn't prepared, not interested in the opponent and lack of urgency was missing unlike last year.
Posted on 12/19/22 at 8:02 pm to Clark14
Losing to Auburn isn't the same as losing to Liberty. That crappy Auburn team if motivated would put a boot up the arse of Liberty 9/10 times.
2022 wasn't a rebuild year. Arkansas had a great level of returning starters back. Arkansas began the season in the top 20. Picked third in the West. This should have been a year where considering how weak the SEC West was, a good year to make a run for the West title
2022 wasn't a rebuild year. Arkansas had a great level of returning starters back. Arkansas began the season in the top 20. Picked third in the West. This should have been a year where considering how weak the SEC West was, a good year to make a run for the West title
Posted on 12/19/22 at 8:12 pm to dchog
The a&m loss was awful
The liberty loss even worse
His confident nature seems nonexistent these days
The liberty loss even worse
His confident nature seems nonexistent these days
Posted on 12/19/22 at 8:14 pm to YumYum Sauce
6-6 definitely would have been more palatable, injuries considered, if we’d just beaten Liberty. We were clearly better than them so that one kind of was a positive vibes killer.
Posted on 12/19/22 at 8:20 pm to TheCheshireHog
Another 6-6 year has got to have Hunter at least lighting a fire under him. We should have easily won 10 games this year and managed 6. Continue to get out coached and underachieve like that and the natives will get restless. Myself included.
Posted on 12/19/22 at 8:22 pm to Clark14
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rebuild year
?????
Posted on 12/19/22 at 8:35 pm to ElDawgHawg
Yeah this should not have been a rebuild year. The floor this year should’ve been 8 wins. We didn’t win a single close game other than I guess Missouri state but that shouldn’t even count. We lost to Texas A&M, Missouri, Liberty, and lsu by a touchdown or less. Just split those games and we’re having an entirely different conversation
Posted on 12/19/22 at 8:49 pm to BallHawg10
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rebuild year ?????
We were not then nor now in a position to reload like some,few, teams can.
Last year’s team ran on upperclassman leadership, talent and emotions which left when they did. That couldn’t be easily replaced.
We need players who come up through the system and are seasoned in the program, but those days are gone now due to the portal.
Hopefully the new coaches can help light a spark and bring in better players.
The kicker to that is, all SEC teams are battling to improve as well.
Sam said we got whooped physically in some games this year and is addressing that problem. He knows it, let’s see what he’ll do about it before we start flying the fire Sam Pittman flags all over the place….
Posted on 12/19/22 at 9:01 pm to BallHawg10
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Am I happy we aren’t going 2-10 anymore? Yes. Am I happy when we get outcoached and lose very winnable games to Liberty, Mizzou, and aTm? No.
Exactly. This was a 9 win team that was coached in to a 6 win team. Changes needed to happen...and they did.
Now they need to get busy recruiting and put together a good class and snag a few starters out of the portal.
But Sam should take some shite for losing to Liberty. That's always going to be unacceptable and it's ok for fans to be pissed about it.
Posted on 12/19/22 at 9:02 pm to Clark14
This years team was better than last years team in every area other than receiver. I love grant and Hayden and they will be razorbacks for life but both of them combined don’t equal the talent drew sanders has. Our d line was better, our secondary was worse due to injuries, I’ll give you that, even though that’s not something we knew pre season. We had 4 guys coming back on the offensive line, everyone in our backfield, and all of our tight ends.in what universe should this have been a rebuilding year? If anything this next year will be the rebuilding year.
This post was edited on 12/19/22 at 9:03 pm
Posted on 12/19/22 at 9:08 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
Should have beat liberty, lsu and tam.
But we didnt...
But we didnt...
Posted on 12/19/22 at 9:15 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
It's pretty obvious Sam can only get the team "up" for about 2-3 games per year, and those are mostly against some combo of Ole Miss, LSU, snd Bama... The latter of which we haven't beat in 16 yrs...
Miss State could also be in total Flux with the passing of the Pirate, so who knows.
All I know is, with that's soft Nonconf schedule, he should be able to cruise to a 6-6 or 7-5 type season without much stress. But, then again, we lost to a shite Mizzou team and fricking Liberty this year.... So.... If he only wins 5 games or less next year, he should be fired... But he probably won't be, because Arkansas fans are totally apathetic toward the football program now.
Miss State could also be in total Flux with the passing of the Pirate, so who knows.
All I know is, with that's soft Nonconf schedule, he should be able to cruise to a 6-6 or 7-5 type season without much stress. But, then again, we lost to a shite Mizzou team and fricking Liberty this year.... So.... If he only wins 5 games or less next year, he should be fired... But he probably won't be, because Arkansas fans are totally apathetic toward the football program now.
Posted on 12/19/22 at 9:57 pm to silverstreak
I would understand if this team was like Kansas and haven't been bowling in over a decade. That would have a different feeling to it. But this year had some expectations and just didn't come together.
Sam needs to understand that seasons like this year that have all the pieces in place to have a good year cannot be wasted. He needed to take advantage of because it is rare for Arkansas to have a down year in the West with so many players returning.
Sam needs to understand that seasons like this year that have all the pieces in place to have a good year cannot be wasted. He needed to take advantage of because it is rare for Arkansas to have a down year in the West with so many players returning.
Posted on 12/19/22 at 10:11 pm to dchog
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it is rare for Arkansas to have a down year in the West with so many players returning.
It's rare to have a good year in the West, ever.
Posted on 12/19/22 at 11:23 pm to dchog
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Sam needs to understand that seasons like this year that have all the pieces in place to have a good year cannot be wasted. He needed to take advantage of because it is rare for Arkansas to have a down year in the West with so many players returning.
I’m sure Sam cares a hell of a lot more than you do since it’s the job he’s always wanted. It’s easy for us to sit on our arse and bitch, not so easy to keep pace with a conference who are trying to do the same as us but with access to better players.
If you don’t think Sam understands more than you do then………..meh…never mind…
Posted on 12/20/22 at 3:40 am to YumYum Sauce
quote:This is what worried me the most as the season went on. Maybe it's just stress and frustration from how unnecessarily difficult this season was as a whole, but his demeanor switched up big time.
His confident nature seems nonexistent these days
Posted on 12/20/22 at 4:01 am to Hawgnsincebirth55
quote:I did the math once upon a time but I'm pretty sure we were 10 total points away from 10-2 or something ridiculous like that.
We lost to Texas A&M, Missouri, Liberty, and lsu by a touchdown or less. Just split those games and we’re having an entirely different conversation
This season was a disappointment no matter how you slice it. Some of it was Pittman's fault (all those points left on the field really sting after a stat like the one above), some of it wasn't. We had the team to reach a better record with the West being so down. The injuries on the defensive side of the ball just weren't replaceable and I doubt KJ will ever play a full season of games with his style.
Most people predicted 7-8 wins. 6 obviously falls short of that and the Liberty game is the game people are pointing to as the turning point. Personally, I would have rather beaten A&M and gave up the game to Liberty if given the choice. Liberty was a damn good football team until Freeze beat us and started using press conferences as open job interviews. He lost the team after that. It was pretty obvious he was gone.
For me it's not really the record that birthed the apprehension about the future. It's how undisciplined a team with so much experience on it looked throughout most of the season. We didn't look well coached a good chunk of the season. The first half of the Auburn game literally looked like a Chad Morris team. That said, I'm nowhere near the fire Pittman camp. He did lose brownie points this year, though.
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