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re: Arkansas NFL combine thread (pro day numbers added)

Posted on 3/5/17 at 2:03 pm to
Posted by Gullah Gullah Island
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Posted on 3/5/17 at 2:03 pm to
Wow Wise is slow
Posted by Jack Ruby
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Posted on 3/5/17 at 2:20 pm to
Folks you want to know why we couldn't set an edge all year?

quote:

Ledbetter 4.85
Wise 4.93
Ellis 4.8


Posted by Pygthagorean Theorem
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Posted on 3/5/17 at 3:12 pm to
But but but Coach Herb is the best in the business
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
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Posted on 3/5/17 at 3:17 pm to
I was always told you can't teach speed. Maybe beilama just needs to be able to recognize when a guy is slow and get some guys with speed
Posted by Jack Ruby
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Posted on 3/5/17 at 3:32 pm to
I didn't keep up with recruiting this year but did he focus on speed more?

Also, it seems Herbert really really needs to adjust his program and help guys get faster instead of bulkier and heavier.
Posted by TheCheshireHog
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Posted on 3/5/17 at 7:55 pm to
40 times for DL are so pointless.
Posted by STLhog
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Posted on 3/6/17 at 2:43 pm to
What did Morgan run and how much did he bench? Didn't see it earlier in the thread?
Posted by Woopigsooie20
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Posted on 3/6/17 at 2:46 pm to
What were their shuttle times? The real indicator
Posted by gohogs141
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Posted on 3/6/17 at 3:09 pm to
quote:

What did Morgan run and how much did he bench?


4.74 on his first attempt and 4.8 on his second (last among WRs). He did 10 reps.

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What were their shuttle times?


20 yard:

Morgan- 4.12 (8th best)
Hatcher- DNP
Sprinkle- DNP
Ellis- 4.36 (6th best)
Wise- 4.36 (9th best)
Ledbetter- 4.56
Skipper- 5.01

60 yard:

Morgan- 11.19 (5th best)
Ellis- 11.28 (2nd best)
Hatcher- DNP
Sprinkle- DNP
Ledbetter- DNP

A lot of the LBs didn't participate in the shuttles but Ellis' time is still good and surprised me.

The 3 cone drill times:

Ellis- 6.8 (3rd best)
Morgan- 6.85
Ledbetter- 7.55 (3rd best)
Skipper- 7.61 (9th best)
Wise- DNP
Hatcher- DNP
Sprinkle- DNP

Interested to see if Hatcher does any of these drills at the pro day. I'll probably use this thread for that too. Reed's 40 time will be one to watch.
This post was edited on 3/6/17 at 3:21 pm
Posted by Jack Ruby
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Posted on 3/6/17 at 5:21 pm to
So Morgan and Ellis are almost the exact same speed in every category..... Ay yai yai

Honestly don't know if either get drafted
This post was edited on 3/6/17 at 5:22 pm
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 3/6/17 at 6:15 pm to
I knew we were on the low end of overall team speed but this is eye opening. It's no wonder big plays were so few and far between on offense and why giving up big plays on defense became a major issue. We really are a big 10 team.
This post was edited on 3/6/17 at 6:16 pm
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 3/7/17 at 6:23 pm to
They done any weights yet? Maybe Atleast were strong and slow instead of what I'm expecting
Posted by ArHog
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Posted on 3/7/17 at 7:09 pm to
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They done any weights yet? Maybe Atleast were strong and slow instead of what I'm expecting


#whenthefreakscomeout

Posted by gohogs141
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Posted on 3/15/17 at 12:02 pm to
Reed runs a 4.39 and had a 40" vertical with an 11'4" broad jump. Crazy. But we all knew he would lol.

Jared Collins with a good broad jump of 10.6

Bench press numbers:

Hollister- 29
Ellis- 21
Winston- 21
Walker- 20
Skipper- 19
Sprinkle- 15
Reed- 6
This post was edited on 3/15/17 at 1:01 pm
Posted by ocelot4ark
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Posted on 3/15/17 at 4:09 pm to
Damn, Hollister. Too bad you couldn't catch the ball.
Posted by Columbia
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Posted on 3/15/17 at 5:47 pm to
Skipper- 19 Sprinkle- 15

Posted by TheCheshireHog
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Posted on 3/15/17 at 6:17 pm to
I bet it is hard as frick to bench that with Skippers wingspan. He was never the most muscular guy to begin with but then you've also got a mile to go in between reps.
Posted by Feral
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Posted on 3/15/17 at 10:33 pm to
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I bet it is hard as frick to bench that with Skippers wingspan. He was never the most muscular guy to begin with but then you've also got a mile to go in between reps.


I'm no Skipper fanboy, but Ross Tucker has said repeatedly on his podcast that bench press is an irrelevant measurement for offensive lineman because long arms are an asset in pass protection, whereas they're a liability in bench press.
Posted by Feral
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Posted on 3/15/17 at 10:39 pm to
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Wow Wise is slow


He looked and played slow this year, too. I'm not sure what happened from his junior year to his senior year, but he completely lost his burst. After coming off the line, he had absolutely no counterpunch besides his spin, and he often got turned around and blocked out of the play when it didn't work (which it rarely did).

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