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re: About the 3-man front
Posted on 10/11/21 at 12:03 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
Posted on 10/11/21 at 12:03 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
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wait you seriously have never hear of a dollar defense? Yes a 2-3-6 is something people run. Not every down but people run it
I dont' give a shite what Mountainburg runs against West Fork on 3rd and 12
Is this the end of this conversation then? Is that all you've got?
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Posted on 10/11/21 at 12:04 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
quote:where did i say we should run a 4 man front all game? All I said was we should mix it in, preferably on earlier downs. Odoms short yardage defense is extremely good imo. As evidence by his 4th and short stop vs ole miss and Texas. It’s the 1st downs where we give up 6,7 or 8 yards that hurt. Yes we are taking a chance in the pass game going to a 4-2-5, slightly because we still have 5 defensive backs in the field, but if we could stop the run for 3 or 4 that’s a big difference than 2nd and 2. I’m not trying to tell Odom how to coach but it seems like if teams are seeing a trend in our defense and adjusting to it we should make similar adjustments.
Against Ole Miss' one back set, we had 3 down linemen and 3 linebackers most of the game (except in short yardage)
That's our six guys up front playing the run first.
in birth55's 4-2-5, he's got 4 down lineman and 2 linebackers, his six guys up front playing the run first
Posted on 10/11/21 at 12:05 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
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wait you seriously have never hear of a dollar defense? Yes a 2-3-6 is something people run. Not every down but people run it
What about belichicks 1 down linemen defense? Used to used that on Xbox for all the exotic blitzes against the hail Mary 4 plays in a row guys.
Posted on 10/11/21 at 12:06 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
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Believe what you want.
you as well
Posted on 10/11/21 at 12:08 pm to ocelot4ark
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No one's making anything up.
Yeah i mean at a minimum i think we all get what they mean. Even though apparently this guy has only heard of it used that one way.
I've seen a front refer to the linemen and then front 7 refer to the line and backers. I've seen the front used to refer to the front 7 as well.
4 pages of semantics arguing and football knowledge dick measuring later....
Posted on 10/11/21 at 12:10 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
You asked me about a 4-2 front, so I used that example.
This post proves you don't read other people's responses, you just type up the next batch of shite you want to type
Go back and read what I wrote in that post.
damn you're hard headed
Posted on 10/11/21 at 12:19 pm to oklahogjr
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I've seen a front refer to the linemen and then front 7 refer to the line and backers. I've seen the front used to refer to the front 7 as well.
QB's don't read "how many down linemen there are", even if they're running the midline option (they would read odd or even on that). They give an educated guess as to how many guys up front are playing run first, pass second. Its matters. So that includes DL and LB's
Offensive linemen don't make the block scheme counts based off "down linemen." They base it off down linemen and linebackers.
But I certainly did believe you got alot of your knowledge from video games, as you confirmed.
This post was edited on 10/11/21 at 12:20 pm
Posted on 10/11/21 at 12:33 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
I read every word of what you said what are you even talking about?
Posted on 10/11/21 at 12:35 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
It matters when the gut your trying to come off the double team on is 215 pounds vs 245. More lineman, more linebackers makes it harder to run against. Less lineman, less linebackers makes it easier to run against it’s not rocket science. It doesn’t matter if we have 2 extra safeties to play run first if there are lineman and tight ends coming to hit them.
Posted on 10/11/21 at 12:40 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
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I read every word of what you said what are you even talking about?
2 linebackers running longer distances to make plays in a 4-2 front vs 3 linebackers running shorter distances to make plays in a 3-3 front?
what am I talking about?
take care dude, I'm done with you
And I guarantee I don't believe you coach high school football.
Posted on 10/11/21 at 12:41 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
People might actually listen to what you’re saying if you weren’t such an a-hole
Posted on 10/11/21 at 12:49 pm to Porcine Human
maybe you should take your own advice
Posted on 10/11/21 at 12:49 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
I never said anything negative against 3-3-5 dumbass! Our fricking base is a 3-2- fricking 6!!!! We have less issues if we run a 3-3 he’ll that’s basically what we run in high school where I coach. 3-3,3-5 1 high safety 2 corners 3 backers 2 down safeties on each side and 3 lineman. But Arkansas doesn’t do that! They a 3-2-6 most of the game with grant and bumper in the game with Hayden as the first relief option with brown, bishop, catalon,Blair, Brooks and foucha in the secondary. If you take Blair off and put Henry on the field maybe we stop the run better. Maybe we don’t have to go to 4 down lineman idk. But you’re making up arguments in your head that I’m not even talks my about, and neither is anyone else.
Posted on 10/11/21 at 12:55 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
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More lineman, more linebackers makes it harder to run against. Less lineman, less linebackers makes it easier to run against it’s not rocket science.
3-3 front is not "less LB's" than the 4-2
again, for the 100th time, they're both a 6 man front and there's a tradeoff
Odom was hired to make the decision and he chose 3 linebackers running shorter distances to make plays
Posted on 10/11/21 at 1:04 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
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maybe we don’t have to go to 4 down lineman idk
I'm sure Odom will be relieved that you're giving him permission to do that
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But you’re making up arguments in your head that I’m not even talks my about, and neither is anyone else.
No, I'm talking base philosophy of what Odom is doing
This post was edited on 10/11/21 at 1:06 pm
Posted on 10/11/21 at 1:08 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
For the 100th time I don’t have an issue with the 3-3 if that’s what we run! But arkansas doesn’t ! Not in the traditional sense. We don’t run the stack which is what a true 3-3 is and what rich Rodriguez ran at West Virginia and what we run at my high school. We run a modified 3-3/3-2 where we have a 2 high safety look with one guy staggered down in the box. Now that works when the guy staggered is catalon and he’s healthy but when he’s banged up he’s not the same guy.
This post was edited on 10/11/21 at 1:13 pm
Posted on 10/11/21 at 1:30 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
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the stack
I'm done
take care
Posted on 10/11/21 at 1:38 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
Your right I’m wrong let’s go beat auburn
Posted on 10/11/21 at 1:49 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
Im Done, take care
Your Right, Im wrong
Let's go beat anyone with a pulse!
I have enjoyed this lesson, however still a bit confused. Live to post another day. Blessings!
Your Right, Im wrong
Let's go beat anyone with a pulse!
I have enjoyed this lesson, however still a bit confused. Live to post another day. Blessings!Posted on 10/11/21 at 2:32 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
Me too. I don't really care what front we are in as long as it gives us the best chance to stop the other team.
I was concerned that we didn't seem to pressure Corral much.
I was concerned that we didn't seem to pressure Corral much.
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