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Posted on 1/12/20 at 10:54 am
Posted on 1/12/20 at 10:54 am
I thought this would be a cool way to start the off-season.
You can pick any former or current Bama player for 22 starters (11 O/11 D).
You can pick any former or current Bama player for 22 starters (11 O/11 D).
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Posted on 1/12/20 at 11:08 am to The Silverback
Set a few ground rules. Threads like this get silly when people have guys playing out of position. If a guy never played OG, don't put him at OG when he was an OT just because he might have been one of our best 5 OLs. Don't put Chance Warmack at tackle.
This post was edited on 1/12/20 at 11:11 am
Posted on 1/12/20 at 12:02 pm to The Silverback
QB - Tua
RB - El Tractorcito
TE - Ozzie Newsome
OT - Chris Samuels
OG - John Hannah
C - Barrett Jones
OG - Chance Warmack
OT - Andre Smith
WR - Julio Jones
WR - Jerry Jeudy
WR - Amari Cooper
DE - Quinnen Williams
DT - Da'Ron Payne
DE - Jonathan Allen
OLB - Derrick Thomas
ILB - Rolando McClain
ILB - Reuben Foster
OLB - Biscuit
CB - Antonio Langham
CB - Dre Swagpatrick
FS - Eddie Jackson
SS - Mark Barron
K - Van Tiffin
P - J.K. Scott
KR/PR - Jaylen Waddle
RB - El Tractorcito
TE - Ozzie Newsome
OT - Chris Samuels
OG - John Hannah
C - Barrett Jones
OG - Chance Warmack
OT - Andre Smith
WR - Julio Jones
WR - Jerry Jeudy
WR - Amari Cooper
DE - Quinnen Williams
DT - Da'Ron Payne
DE - Jonathan Allen
OLB - Derrick Thomas
ILB - Rolando McClain
ILB - Reuben Foster
OLB - Biscuit
CB - Antonio Langham
CB - Dre Swagpatrick
FS - Eddie Jackson
SS - Mark Barron
K - Van Tiffin
P - J.K. Scott
KR/PR - Jaylen Waddle
Posted on 1/12/20 at 12:43 pm to Robot Santa
quote:javier
KR/PR - Jaylen Waddle
Posted on 1/12/20 at 12:50 pm to Robot Santa
No insult, just picking at your list for fun.
Having John Hannah on your list is valid, but including him means we'd have to be making these lists based on the person's dominance at the time, not if they played today. Hannah was 6'2" 265 when he was drafted.
I respect Waddle at PR, but Arenas is maybe the best punt returner in the history of CFB. Waddle also hasn't gotten to the point in his career when teams refuse to kick to him. Arenas is 9 yards shy of the all-time yardage record and spent an entire year where NOBODY would punt to him. Our average starting field position that year (2009) was our own 44 because of Arenas and that defense.
Quinnen Williams only had one good year, and we didn't win a title that year. Marcel Dareus dominated folks for multiple years, ended Colt McCoy's career, had a pick 6 with spin move in the Natty, and was so dominat versus MichSt in that bowl game that the MichSt's student newspaper's sportswriter opened his write-up for the game with the line, "This game was over the moment Marcel Dareus was born."
Having Tua on your list means you won't have your starting QB healthy from mid-November on. If you pick Tua, then QB2 needs to be on the list because he'll need to start 2-4 games.
Having John Hannah on your list is valid, but including him means we'd have to be making these lists based on the person's dominance at the time, not if they played today. Hannah was 6'2" 265 when he was drafted.
I respect Waddle at PR, but Arenas is maybe the best punt returner in the history of CFB. Waddle also hasn't gotten to the point in his career when teams refuse to kick to him. Arenas is 9 yards shy of the all-time yardage record and spent an entire year where NOBODY would punt to him. Our average starting field position that year (2009) was our own 44 because of Arenas and that defense.
Quinnen Williams only had one good year, and we didn't win a title that year. Marcel Dareus dominated folks for multiple years, ended Colt McCoy's career, had a pick 6 with spin move in the Natty, and was so dominat versus MichSt in that bowl game that the MichSt's student newspaper's sportswriter opened his write-up for the game with the line, "This game was over the moment Marcel Dareus was born."
Having Tua on your list means you won't have your starting QB healthy from mid-November on. If you pick Tua, then QB2 needs to be on the list because he'll need to start 2-4 games.
This post was edited on 1/12/20 at 12:53 pm
Posted on 1/12/20 at 1:26 pm to BamaGradinTn
I kinda feel like it's not right for the RT to be the second best LT. I think RT should have to be a player that played RT predominantly, like DJ FLuker.
Posted on 1/12/20 at 1:51 pm to Robot Santa
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QB - Tua
RB - El Tractorcito
TE - Ozzie Newsome
OT - Chris Samuels
OG - John Hannah
C - Barrett Jones
OG - Chance Warmack
OT - Andre Smith
WR - Julio Jones
WR - Jerry Jeudy
WR - Amari Cooper
DE - Quinnen Williams
DT - Da'Ron Payne
DE - Jonathan Allen
OLB - Derrick Thomas
ILB - Rolando McClain
ILB - Reuben Foster
OLB - Biscuit
CB - Antonio Langham
CB - Dre Swagpatrick
FS - Eddie Jackson
SS - Mark Barron
K - Van Tiffin
P - J.K. Scott
KR/PR - Jaylen Waddle
If you're going back to the seventies to get Hannah, then don't ignore the other greats from those eras.
I love Barrett Jones. But he wasn't as good as Dwight Stephenson. Hell, I'd probably have Ryan Kelly over Jones.
I'd have Marty Lyons over Payne. I'd have Barry Krauss...and maybe a few others
(Hightower, Mosley)...over Foster.
This post was edited on 1/12/20 at 1:55 pm
Posted on 1/12/20 at 1:57 pm to Robot Santa
QB - Tua
RB - Alexander
TE - Howard
OT - Chris Samuels
OG - Barrett Jones
C - Ryan Kelly
OG - Chance Warmack
OT - Andre Smith
WR - Julio Jones
WR - Jerry Jeudy
WR - Amari Cooper
DE - Copeland
DT - Da'Ron Payne
DE - Jonathan Allen
OLB - Derrick Thomas
ILB - Rolando McClain
ILB - Reuben Foster
OLB - Biscuit
CB - Antonio Langham
CB - Fitzpatrick
FS - Eddie Jackson
SS - Mark Barron
K - Van Tiffin
P - J.K. Scott
KR/PR - Jaylen Waddle
RB - Alexander
TE - Howard
OT - Chris Samuels
OG - Barrett Jones
C - Ryan Kelly
OG - Chance Warmack
OT - Andre Smith
WR - Julio Jones
WR - Jerry Jeudy
WR - Amari Cooper
DE - Copeland
DT - Da'Ron Payne
DE - Jonathan Allen
OLB - Derrick Thomas
ILB - Rolando McClain
ILB - Reuben Foster
OLB - Biscuit
CB - Antonio Langham
CB - Fitzpatrick
FS - Eddie Jackson
SS - Mark Barron
K - Van Tiffin
P - J.K. Scott
KR/PR - Jaylen Waddle
Posted on 1/12/20 at 2:24 pm to prevatt33b
Any list without Dwight Stephenson at center is crazy IMO.
5× Pro Bowl (1983–1987)
5× First-team All-Pro (1983–1987)
NFL Man of the Year (1985)
NFL 1980s All-Decade Team
NFL 100th Anniversary All-Time Team
Miami Dolphins Honor Roll (1994)
2× National champion (1978, 1979)
2× Second-team All-American (1978, 1979)
5× Pro Bowl (1983–1987)
5× First-team All-Pro (1983–1987)
NFL Man of the Year (1985)
NFL 1980s All-Decade Team
NFL 100th Anniversary All-Time Team
Miami Dolphins Honor Roll (1994)
2× National champion (1978, 1979)
2× Second-team All-American (1978, 1979)
Posted on 1/12/20 at 3:01 pm to The Silverback
QB - AJ McCarron
RB - Derrick Henry
TE - OJ Howard
OT - DJ Fluker
OG - Mike Johnson
C - Antoine Caldwell
OG - Barrett Jones
OT - Andre Smith
WR - Julio Jones
WR - Jerry Jeudy
WR - Amari Cooper
DE - Marcell Dareus
DT - Da'Ron Payne
DE - Jonathan Allen
OLB - Donta Hightower
ILB - Rolando McClain
ILB - Demeco Ryans
OLB - Courtney Upshaw
CB - Kareem Jackson
CB - Dre Kirkpatrick
FS - Eddie Jackson
SS - Mark Barron
K - Leigh Tiffin
P - J.K. Scott
RB - Derrick Henry
TE - OJ Howard
OT - DJ Fluker
OG - Mike Johnson
C - Antoine Caldwell
OG - Barrett Jones
OT - Andre Smith
WR - Julio Jones
WR - Jerry Jeudy
WR - Amari Cooper
DE - Marcell Dareus
DT - Da'Ron Payne
DE - Jonathan Allen
OLB - Donta Hightower
ILB - Rolando McClain
ILB - Demeco Ryans
OLB - Courtney Upshaw
CB - Kareem Jackson
CB - Dre Kirkpatrick
FS - Eddie Jackson
SS - Mark Barron
K - Leigh Tiffin
P - J.K. Scott
Posted on 1/12/20 at 3:03 pm to BamaGradinTn
Not really implying an opinion about who to pick, but I feel like Barret Jones' legacy has been tamed unfairly through time due to his NFL career. The only reason he didn't "succeed" there was due to that foot injury. He was never the same and traded his NFL career to give us the best possible chance to win the Natty. I think that the combination of his skill and success at all three positions, his record while he was here and his sacrifice make him the GOAT Lineman for Bama.
This post was edited on 1/12/20 at 3:04 pm
Posted on 1/12/20 at 3:29 pm to Fells
Great list ! Somewhere in there I would put Cornelius Bennett
Posted on 1/12/20 at 3:39 pm to MrMojoRisin
quote:
Any list without Dwight Stephenson at center is crazy IMO.
This. All day long.
Posted on 1/12/20 at 3:40 pm to Fells
quote:
I think that the combination of his skill and success at all three positions, his record while he was here and his sacrifice make him the GOAT Lineman for Bama.
This may very well be true, yet ironically, he may not have been the best at any single position.
Posted on 1/12/20 at 3:55 pm to The Silverback
One observation I have regarding lists like this is as heralded as the '92 defense was it's rare that anyone lists a player from that group.
Posted on 1/12/20 at 4:29 pm to Globetrotter747
Lee Roy Jordan over Reuben at ILB. And getting historic, Don Hutson at one of the wideouts.
Posted on 1/12/20 at 5:16 pm to Robot Santa
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K - Van Tiffin
See, this is where memory or can fail you.
While he deserves hero status for the game winning kick against Auburn the cold, hard truth is that Van Tiffin was an average at best FG kicker by even Alabama's recent lowly standards.
His career percentage at Alabama was 67% with his best season being 76%.
Here are the kickers (with more than one season of kicking) that followed Tiffin:
Phillip Doyle 74.3% with two seasons >82%
Michael Proctor 71.4%. Best season 81.3%
Brian Cunningham 62.5%
Neal Thomas 70.6%
Brian Bosticks 73.1%
Jamie Christensen 69%. Best season 76%
Leigh Tiffin 74.8%. Best season 85.7%
Jeremy Shelley 80%. Best season 100%
Cade Foster 56.8%
Adam Griffith 69.5%. Best season 75%.
Joseph Bulovas 75.9%. Best season 78%.
You can make a serious argument for his son, but if dad was kicking today folks would talk about him like they did Griff and Bul.
Posted on 1/12/20 at 9:21 pm to Robot Santa
QB - AJ McCarron
RB - Derrick Henry
TE - Ozzie Newsome
OT - Chris Samuels
OG - John Hannah
C - Dwight Stephenson
OG - Barrett Jones
OT - Andre Smith
WR - Julio Jones
WR - Jerry Jeudy
WR - Amari Cooper
DE - Eric Curry
DT - Terrence Cody
DE - John Copeland
OLB - Derrick Thomas
ILB - Rolando McClain
ILB - Woodrow Lowe
OLB - Cornelius Bennett
CB - Antonio Langham
CB - Dee Milliner
FS - HaHa Clinton-Dix
SS - Minkah Fitzpatrick
K - Phillip Doyle
P - J.K. Scott
PR - Javier Arenas
KR - Kenyan Drake
AP - David Palmer
RB - Derrick Henry
TE - Ozzie Newsome
OT - Chris Samuels
OG - John Hannah
C - Dwight Stephenson
OG - Barrett Jones
OT - Andre Smith
WR - Julio Jones
WR - Jerry Jeudy
WR - Amari Cooper
DE - Eric Curry
DT - Terrence Cody
DE - John Copeland
OLB - Derrick Thomas
ILB - Rolando McClain
ILB - Woodrow Lowe
OLB - Cornelius Bennett
CB - Antonio Langham
CB - Dee Milliner
FS - HaHa Clinton-Dix
SS - Minkah Fitzpatrick
K - Phillip Doyle
P - J.K. Scott
PR - Javier Arenas
KR - Kenyan Drake
AP - David Palmer
Posted on 1/12/20 at 9:25 pm to BamaGradinTn
quote:
I'd have Barry Krauss...and maybe a few others (Hightower, Mosley)
Lee Roy Jordan, Kieth McCants?
Posted on 1/12/20 at 10:03 pm to The Silverback
QB - Tua
RB - MFBATR
TE - Ozzie Newsome
OT - Chris Samuels
OG - Fluker
C - Barrett Jones
OG - Jonah Williams
OT - John Hannah
WR - Julio Jones
WR - Jerry Jeudy
WR - Amari Cooper
DE - Quinnen Williams
DT - Da'Ron Payne
DE - Marty Lyons
OLB - Derrick Thomas
ILB - Rolando McClain
ILB - Lee Roy Jordan
OLB - CJ Mosley
CB - Minkah
CB - Dee Milliner
FS - Eddie Jackson
SS - Landon Collins
K - Van Tiffin
P - J.K. Scott
KR/PR - Javier Arenas
RB - MFBATR
TE - Ozzie Newsome
OT - Chris Samuels
OG - Fluker
C - Barrett Jones
OG - Jonah Williams
OT - John Hannah
WR - Julio Jones
WR - Jerry Jeudy
WR - Amari Cooper
DE - Quinnen Williams
DT - Da'Ron Payne
DE - Marty Lyons
OLB - Derrick Thomas
ILB - Rolando McClain
ILB - Lee Roy Jordan
OLB - CJ Mosley
CB - Minkah
CB - Dee Milliner
FS - Eddie Jackson
SS - Landon Collins
K - Van Tiffin
P - J.K. Scott
KR/PR - Javier Arenas
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