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re: Yea I'm permanently in the fire him camp now

Posted on 12/5/18 at 8:27 am to
Posted by Bear88
Member since Oct 2014
13203 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 8:27 am to
Not sure how you get blaming players out of my post but my point is there has been talk on these boards about mock drafts and where a couple of our kids are projected and I just don’t see it TBH. Do we have a problem “coaching em up”? Sure as hell do. I think Avery is too used of the NBA where they play every other night and players are for the most part a finished product . That won’t work in college. My first line said “not hating on players” and I mean that . It is not their fault. But you got to admit that for several years( not just CAJ) we have recruited athletes who are inconsistent with b-ball skills. It is ok if you have a few who have high basketball IQs to mix in but we don’t . Long story short , I don’t see players ready for the league and CAJ dragging them down. You are right about development, just not getting better and that’s purely coaching
Posted by Jake_LaMotta
Coral Gables
Member since Sep 2017
5700 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 8:31 am to
Nothing will ever change until we build a new arena. Even Auburn was willing to do this.
Posted by Bear88
Member since Oct 2014
13203 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 8:33 am to
Yep, when I say burn it down
, I mean building, coaches, everything. Start over. Renovating Coleman is a joke
Posted by IB4bama
Pelham
Member since Oct 2017
1977 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 8:40 am to
But, Jones will be in the nba next year. We need to start looking for a replacement for him now.

These kids just dont have any confidence in what they are doing.
Posted by Bear88
Member since Oct 2014
13203 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 8:44 am to
Better develop a jump shot or some kind of offensive game if he is going to stick up there
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
44365 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 8:45 am to
Herb needed to obsessively work on his shot all offseason if he wanted to be able to go pro after this year. From the looks of it, he spent the entire offseason playing Fortnite.
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
21689 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 8:46 am to
quote:

Not sure how you get blaming players out of my post


I wasn't implying that you were bashing the players. But, I seem to remember most of your posts talking about how we have athletes and not basketball players.

My point is, even if that were true when we recruited them, and in most cases I don't think it was, with experience, they should become better basketball players, not worse. The coaching sucks arse.
This post was edited on 12/5/18 at 9:58 am
Posted by My2Bits
2500 mi from Tuscaloosa due west
Member since Jun 2012
4801 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 8:52 am to
Would love to know how Wimp would compare Jones to TR Dunn. TR was a demon on Defense and played 14 yrs in the league.
Posted by Bear88
Member since Oct 2014
13203 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 8:52 am to
I gotcha . I agree. I am just frustrated with this crap. When is the last time you see a Bama player come off a screen, turn and fill it up like MID MAJORS do against us??
Posted by Bear88
Member since Oct 2014
13203 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 8:59 am to
Not many on here give a frick about b-ball but I do for sure. No excuse we can’t be competitive in sports other than football . Baseball seems to be trending in the right direction but I am tired of missing the tourney. Being a teacher/ coach I am off for spring break when March madness begins and aside from last year it is frustrating as hell to not have Bama in it more
Posted by IB4bama
Pelham
Member since Oct 2017
1977 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 9:12 am to
TR didnt score much from outside until his senior year, but he consistently scored close to double digits by getting garbage points around the basket.
Posted by My2Bits
2500 mi from Tuscaloosa due west
Member since Jun 2012
4801 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 9:18 am to
Very true.I watched him play many games for us and also followed his career in the pro's.
Just want To know what Wimp would think of the comparison.
Posted by rcbama
birmingham
Member since Sep 2017
271 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 9:25 am to
quote:

Yea I'm permanently in the fire him camp now
Jones played 29 minutes and made zero FG's and was 1 of 6 from the FT line, which was his only points of the game. And he is a starter. He did get 5 rb's with no TO's. Does this type stat deserve to be a starter?



Agreed. Though he didn't this game he is normally a turnover machine. We had 15 minutes of scoring droughts and we Mack on the bench for most of it. Who is deciding playing time.

Heck, if you can not score, put Lawson in there to fire away. We didn't play D anyway.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 9:38 am to
Yep. No excuse for last night, and it's the same problem year after year. He has no idea how to coach the team out of in-gane shooting slumps. At least Grant would up the defensive pressure when our offense was sucking.

And my God, the free throws.
Posted by AlbertMeansWell
Member since Sep 2013
5555 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 9:52 am to
I've thought he was a horrible hire since day one. He's recruited well be done nothing with that. He's got to go. He's fricking awful. He's stealing money from the University.
Posted by Commander Data
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Dec 2016
7289 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 9:54 am to
He got a pass from the fans for signing Sexton and Petty. He is just a rah rah coach like Ed Orgeron.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 10:18 am to
I'm not in the camp that he is a terrible coach. I think he's a good coach, but I think we could and should expect better.
Posted by stomp
Bama
Member since Nov 2014
3705 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 10:23 am to
Who should we go after to replace him? I don't think he lasts thru the season.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 10:33 am to
I just gave my tickets for Sunday away. frick driving down in the cold rain to watch us lose.
Posted by Bear88
Member since Oct 2014
13203 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 10:45 am to
Yea with our schedule so far we should be riding high coming in to the Zona game and yet here we are.
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