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Who was more of a physical freak of nature..Henry or Julio?
Posted on 5/21/21 at 12:29 pm
Posted on 5/21/21 at 12:29 pm
I ask this because Henry has been talking to Julio and is pushing for the Titans to trade for him
Who do y’all think is the bigger beast?
I gotta go with the King myself
Who do y’all think is the bigger beast?
I gotta go with the King myself
This post was edited on 5/21/21 at 12:30 pm
Posted on 5/21/21 at 12:36 pm to mistaken4193
Probably Henry. There have been players like Megatron, Fitz, Moss, etc. similar to Julio on the freak scale. Henry is pretty unique in football history. The closest comparison is probably Eric Dickerson, who played at like 225 pounds whereas Henry probably goes about 245-250 these days.
Posted on 5/21/21 at 12:39 pm to mistaken4193
Henry... but I’m gonna throw DJ Flucker in the mix
Posted on 5/21/21 at 1:06 pm to mistaken4193
Henry far and away. Dude is a long strider as a big back which makes his running style pretty interesting. Shannon Sharpe noted that up close 6’ 2-6’ 3” isn’t really accurate. He’s more along the lines of about 6’ 4” 260.
The fact I’ve seen him outrun cornerbacks that surely run in the 4.3s and toss around the more physical 210 pound corners like they were wet paper bags is astounding. He's fundamentally a scat back but he plays so long in the game that it makes him seem like a power back cause all the bruising happens when everyone is tired of tackling or tries to get him up high. I don’t think I’ve ever seen Henry straight up bulldoze someone. It’s always either:
1. Fall forward
2. Stiff arm
3. Outrun them in the open field.
He might at the goal line but it’s just pushing. Not straight up squashing a dude.
The fact I’ve seen him outrun cornerbacks that surely run in the 4.3s and toss around the more physical 210 pound corners like they were wet paper bags is astounding. He's fundamentally a scat back but he plays so long in the game that it makes him seem like a power back cause all the bruising happens when everyone is tired of tackling or tries to get him up high. I don’t think I’ve ever seen Henry straight up bulldoze someone. It’s always either:
1. Fall forward
2. Stiff arm
3. Outrun them in the open field.
He might at the goal line but it’s just pushing. Not straight up squashing a dude.
Posted on 5/21/21 at 1:30 pm to FourThreeForty
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Henry far and away. Dude is a long strider as a big back which makes his running style pretty interesting. Shannon Sharpe noted that up close 6’ 2-6’ 3” isn’t really accurate. He’s more along the lines of about 6’ 4” 260.
I would be scared shitless to try and tackle that guy
Posted on 5/21/21 at 2:30 pm to mistaken4193
Give me Derrick. He is a complete anomaly in the age of analytics
Article about Derrick Henry vs. Analytics
Derrick Henry is not as much of a trendsetter as he is a trend-fighter. What he is doing should not be happening because someone that big and strong should not also be the greatest big play runningback in the sport. Not only does he have touchdown runs of 53, 54, 68, 72, 74, 75, 94, and 99 yards, he frequently leads the league in yards after contact per carry. Over the past 2 years, he had more rushing yards after contact than anyone else has rushing yards period. All in an era where bellcow runningbacks are not supposed to work. Just an absolute monster
Article about Derrick Henry vs. Analytics
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A good running game requires less thinking. Keep handing the ball off to your running back, snug and secure, for about 10 minutes of game time, and if everything goes well, you’ll have a nice six-point touchdown. No fuss and no muss. Who doesn’t want that?
Except football at the NFL level typically doesn’t work like that anymore. Bellcow running backs are becoming increasingly rare, and those who show promise often can’t maintain it for long.
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Henry is different than a lot of running backs, mind you. To start, there is his sheer size. At a listed 6’3, 247 pounds, he is the biggest running back in the league. The reason why so few backs have that frame is that it isn’t typically conducive to the acceleration, speed, and elusiveness needed to play the position. And yet, Henry is explosive, he can outrun defensive backs, and he finds and slips through tight gaps despite looking like a defensive end.
To that last point, Henry’s power and surprising nimbleness are reflected in the fact that when defenses try to load up to stop him, he just bowls them over anyway. He finished the regular season with more yards after contact (973) than anyone, and was third with 29 broken tackles. He’s even more effective against eight-man boxes than he is against seven-man boxes, according to ESPN’s Matt Bowen.
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Everything that the Titans do works off of Henry. The play fakes, screens, rubs, and QB keeps are only so effective because their mondo-back demands that you over commit to him. And though contemporary philosophy has evolved towards spreading the field to run, the Titans have done the opposite to spring Henry, tightening their formations and adding heft to force undersized defenses to be gap sound. When Henry breaks through an encroaching defense’s first line, he’s frequently gone.
Watch as Ravens linebackers get sucked towards the line of scrimmage, only for Henry to blow right by them.
Derrick Henry is not as much of a trendsetter as he is a trend-fighter. What he is doing should not be happening because someone that big and strong should not also be the greatest big play runningback in the sport. Not only does he have touchdown runs of 53, 54, 68, 72, 74, 75, 94, and 99 yards, he frequently leads the league in yards after contact per carry. Over the past 2 years, he had more rushing yards after contact than anyone else has rushing yards period. All in an era where bellcow runningbacks are not supposed to work. Just an absolute monster
This post was edited on 5/21/21 at 2:31 pm
Posted on 5/21/21 at 5:19 pm to mistaken4193
The real physical freak:
Posted on 5/21/21 at 5:36 pm to mistaken4193
Henry is a fricking animal
Posted on 5/21/21 at 7:41 pm to Roll Tide Ravens
Derrick Henry looks like a child compared to A’Shawn Robinson
What did that boy eat growing up?
What did that boy eat growing up?
Posted on 5/22/21 at 10:20 am to tiger perry
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Henry is a fricking animal
He and Metcalf are the better comparisons for physical freaks for size, speed, strength at their positions.
Julio is a beast in his own right though. 32 yrs old and going on a decade in the league, injuries and all, he is still one of the most dominant players out there.
Posted on 5/22/21 at 10:21 am to FourThreeForty
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What did that boy eat growing up?
Anything he wanted, including a lot of school lunches that weren't made for him
This post was edited on 5/22/21 at 10:56 am
Posted on 5/22/21 at 10:28 am to mistaken4193
Julio isn’t getting enough respect...dude had over 1100 yds his last year here with a screw in his hand. And then he obliterated the combine and ran a 4.3 on a broken foot
Posted on 5/22/21 at 10:59 am to mistaken4193
Would've loved to have seen Julio featured in an offense, not just a role player in a run heavy WCO. Wouldn't change the results, but dang Julio was wasted in McElwain's offense.
Got this generational talent throwing blocks and running screens after seeing all these clips and highlights of him Moss'ing people in practice. Come on man
Got this generational talent throwing blocks and running screens after seeing all these clips and highlights of him Moss'ing people in practice. Come on man
Posted on 5/22/21 at 11:09 am to MagillaGuerilla
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Julio was wasted in McElwain's offense.
Not sure I'd say that, as he had a role in a play action, run first offense and crushed it.
JJ was and remains the single most important player recruited in the Saban era. His selflessness in spite of talent and utilization helped change the climate of the team immediately and started a trend toward true culture change.
It was a different era in offensive philosophy. Had he played in the Kiffin OC years or after, he may very well have secured every receiving record in CFB history
Posted on 5/22/21 at 3:35 pm to Che Boludo
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It was a different era in offensive philosophy. Had he played in the Kiffin OC years or after, he may very well have secured every receiving record in CFB history
Julio is amazing, but let's settle down here. He was an absolute physical freak but we've had 2 receivers who were just as good or better, they just got to the production in a different way, without overwhelming physicality. Both of them were heisman finalist and one of them won the dang thing. And neither one of them broke even one single season or career FBS record.
Posted on 5/24/21 at 8:42 am to FourThreeForty
Henry made the college game look like little league where you have the under 13 year league have that one kid who hit puberty or this major growth spurt at ten years of age and towers over the rest of the kids. He was man-child in college with baby teeth still in mouth. His mouth piece was his teething ring for the of love god. I still see him stiff arming that DE for Michigan State like a rag doll.
Henry definitely!!!!
Henry definitely!!!!
Posted on 5/24/21 at 9:05 am to mistaken4193
Henry have s strange.
He doesn’t really play like his size says.
He was probably the worst short yardage back of the Saban era, but he could outrun DBs.
He doesn’t really play like his size says.
He was probably the worst short yardage back of the Saban era, but he could outrun DBs.
Posted on 5/24/21 at 9:09 am to mistaken4193
Every time I see big Henry easily outrunning NFL DBs en route to the endzone, it pretty much blows my mind. Just not normal at all how big, fast, and strong he is.
Him spinning Earl Thomas around like a puppet in open field and turning him into his blocker was one of the coolest things I've ever seen in football.
Him spinning Earl Thomas around like a puppet in open field and turning him into his blocker was one of the coolest things I've ever seen in football.
This post was edited on 5/24/21 at 9:11 am
Posted on 5/24/21 at 9:20 am to Funky Tide 8
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Him spinning Earl Thomas around like a puppet in open field and turning him into his blocker was one of the coolest things I've ever seen in football.
He does stuff like that all the time. Check out the King Henry stiff-arm highlights:
LINK
Posted on 5/24/21 at 9:43 am to mistaken4193
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I gotta go with the King myself
Easy call. Julio is a beast, but Derrick is in a class by himself.
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I still see him stiff arming that DE for Michigan State like a rag doll.
Derrick actually made the guy airborne.
This post was edited on 5/24/21 at 9:44 am
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