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re: When Saban does retire (a long time from now) Dabo is the answer

Posted on 11/22/22 at 9:40 am to
Posted by East Coast Band
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Posted on 11/22/22 at 9:40 am to
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You think Alabama would offer him?

Who else would they offer? I know there may be rumors that he'll never be offered Alabama for reasons going back to when he was here, but he'd still be on the list, IMO.
But, it's not really that, the real queston is: does Lane think he'd be offered the Alabama job?
This post was edited on 11/22/22 at 9:42 am
Posted by MOS0311
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Posted on 11/22/22 at 9:48 am to
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DeMeco Ryans, unless he's an NFL HC by then (most likely going to be the case).


May as well just bring Mike Shula back. What would be the difference here?
Posted by MOS0311
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Posted on 11/22/22 at 9:55 am to
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Dan Lanning. He’s familiar with what it takes to run the Saban/Kirby recruiting machine. I don’t want Dabo’s rah-rah, promote everybody from within high school type program coming to Alabama.


This. I think Dan would be a perfect fit and am surprised his name isn't being mentioned more by our fans. And I've been high on Dabo for years as the guy has proven he can win against the best of the best but as someone else said, he's hit his peak and is clearly losing his luster. So I'm jumping off the Dabo train.
Posted by CrimsonFever
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Posted on 11/22/22 at 10:09 am to
I think we would offer him if we get turned down by a couple of other people first but Kiffin would be dumb to turn down Auburn thinking its a sure thing that we would hire him, cause its not.
This post was edited on 11/22/22 at 10:11 am
Posted by auisssa
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Posted on 11/22/22 at 10:21 am to
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May as well just bring Mike Shula back. What would be the difference here?




Well, nobody wanted Shula as a head coach, either at the college or NFL level. He was a decent QB coach and that's it. He only got the Alabama job because of Mike Price and the weird timing of all of that.

There will be plenty of NFL owners that want Ryans as their HC. He's proven himself at the NFL level as one of the top coordinators. I believe he'll be a good NFL coach. And I think he'd be a good coach at Alabama.

Ryans and Shula are very, very different.
Posted by footstepsfalco
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Posted on 11/22/22 at 10:49 am to
I am thoroughly on the anti Dabo train. He nearly loses to teams with far...far less talent every year. In my opinion, he would be a very mediocre coach in the SEC. Kiffin is my guy and has been for some time, but I was thinking about it over the weekend, and I too would love a Dan Lanning hire. He is a younger Kirby, just as Kirby is a younger Saban. Your first move as AD is hand Kirby a blank check and make him say no; he will, and then you move on to Lane or Lanning.
Posted by East Coast Band
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Posted on 11/22/22 at 11:31 am to
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Kiffin would be dumb to turn down Auburn thinking its a sure thing that we would hire him, cause its not.

If that's his only reason, yes.
But, there are plenty other reasons to turn down the AU job, unless you don't mind getting manipulated.
Posted by Sl0thstronautEsq
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Posted on 11/22/22 at 11:34 am to
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I too would love a Dan Lanning hire.


Everyone is talking about Lanning, but this is why think we need to get Glenn Schumann on the staff next year.

It'd be great to have him come on as the DC and see if he can be developed in 3-5 years to take over for Saban.
Posted by CrimsonFever
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Posted on 11/22/22 at 11:37 am to

So you don't even talk to the guy who played for your university that has twelve 10-win seasons in a row and has won multiple national titles?


Some of you guys are thinking so far outside the box you're not even in the same room as it anymore lol. Dan Lanning? He hasn't even been a head coach for a full season yet.


The obvious answer if right in front of our faces. Come back home Dabo.

This post was edited on 11/22/22 at 11:53 am
Posted by Shaft Williams
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Posted on 11/22/22 at 11:53 am to
Dabo in the SEC isn't what he is at Clemson. Also, Dabo is slower to change than Saban. How do I know? Look at Clemson's offense!! Dabo would get ran out of the SEC.
Posted by Shaft Williams
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Posted on 11/22/22 at 11:55 am to
Kiffin, in my opinion, will turn down Auburn because there are better jobs out there that will likely be open in a year or two. Namely Texas and A&M. Either one of those jobs is a better deal that Auburn.
Posted by CrimsonFever
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Posted on 11/22/22 at 12:01 pm to
So Dabo and Clemson has been able to beat Saban, Brian Kelly, Ryan Day, Lincoln Riley ect in the college playoff, but you think he wouldnt be able to compete in the SEC with the resources and clout that Bama has?

That doesn't make any sense to me. Dabo would kill it at Alabama.
This post was edited on 11/22/22 at 12:05 pm
Posted by Shaft Williams
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Posted on 11/22/22 at 12:05 pm to
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So Dabo and Clemson has been able to beat Saban, Brian Kelly, Ryan Day, Lincoln Riley ect in the college playoff, but if he gets hired by Bama and has more resources than he has at Clemson, he wouldnt be able to compete in the SEC?

That doesn't make any sense to me. Dabo would kill it at Alabama.


Has he beaten those guys lately? I just saw Dabo get his shite pushed in by a rookie coach at Notre Dame a few weeks ago. The same ND coach who lost to our Charles Huff coached Marshall.

Have you noticed that Trevor and DJ both regressed after their freshman seasons at Clemson?

Have you noticed Clemson is running the same offense since Deshaun Watson was there and how Clemson's offense looks now?

Have you noticed Dabo won't hire a coach outside of his staff at Clemson?

I'm not saying Dabo hasn't been a great coach but he's definitely trending down. Yes, he may make the playoff this season but this Clemson team ain't shite if you've been watching.
This post was edited on 11/22/22 at 12:07 pm
Posted by CrimsonFever
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Posted on 11/22/22 at 12:08 pm to
I get your concerns and they are the same ones I have had but honestly his record and the fact that he is a winner trumps those concerns for me. If he does crappy here then fire him, but you got a guy that played for Alabama who as far as actual winning goes, is a top 5 CFB coach you have to go after him imo.


Clemson had a down year last year but they are right there in the playoff hunt right now after replacing both coordinators which is impressive.

Clemsons offense is averaging 35 points per game this year, that's not bad. Ole Miss is also averaging 35 ppg and Kiffin is considered an offensive genius.
This post was edited on 11/22/22 at 12:16 pm
Posted by Joka2kold
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Posted on 11/22/22 at 12:18 pm to
Fever...I don't know about this one.

I think with the right setup like it is here...Lane Kiffin will win multiple championships here.

Believe it or not he's the only one crazy enough to come COACH at Alabama when Nick Saban retires.
Posted by Shaft Williams
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Posted on 11/22/22 at 12:19 pm to
Your reasoning is why Mario Cristobal is Miami's coach. Look how that is going. Past performance is nice but give me the recent trends over past performance any day.
Posted by Joka2kold
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Posted on 11/22/22 at 12:20 pm to
Fever... Clemson has way more talent than Ole Miss and you know it.

Posted by FairhopeTider
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Posted on 11/22/22 at 12:23 pm to
I’ve always been on Team Dabo because he’s a proven championship caliber coach that won’t need a learning curve. Those are rare commodities…..but I have some pause now considering he doesn’t seem to be very open to adapting to NIL/Transfer Portal changes in CFB. For better or worse, we need a coach that can negotiate this new landscape better than anyone.
This post was edited on 11/22/22 at 12:26 pm
Posted by CrimsonFever
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Posted on 11/22/22 at 12:25 pm to
He might but give me the guy who has proven it. Even If Kiffin did win a NC here would he be able to handle it or would his ego become so big he it gets in his way? Its happened before to him multiple times. I think thats a legit concern.

Also I am not sure Kiffin wouldnt eventually want to coach in the NFL.


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Believe it or not he's the only one crazy enough to come COACH at Alabama when Nick Saban retires.


Couldn't disagree more there, Bama is the best job in college football, people will be lining up trying to get the job.
This post was edited on 11/22/22 at 12:27 pm
Posted by Shaft Williams
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Posted on 11/22/22 at 12:31 pm to
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Couldn't disagree more there, Bama is the best job in college football, people will be lining up trying to get the job.


What is the best job in college football varies by coach. Alabama might be the most pressure packed job in college football and when the job opens back up you'll be following the GOAT. Very few coaches will sign up for that. There are jobs that pay as well as Bama but the expectations aren't nearly as great. Look at UGA, Clemson, A&M, USC, etc.
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