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re: What I’m hearing on Tua

Posted on 11/16/19 at 4:24 pm to
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26956 posts
Posted on 11/16/19 at 4:24 pm to
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I pay attention to the draft more than anyone on this site it seems like.



And exactly how is that relevant, pray tell, when no one...especially you...even knows the magnitude of his injury or what the recovery time will be?

Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
9419 posts
Posted on 11/16/19 at 4:25 pm to
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They were serious enough that he wasn't near 100%. NFL teams don't like that. Also, he was dinged up all season, but how many times did he even play in the second half? He hasn't played many full games of football.





Well then hardly anyone coming out of the SEC fits your standard. Most of these guys have injuries whether you hear about it or not.
This post was edited on 11/16/19 at 4:26 pm
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
22517 posts
Posted on 11/16/19 at 4:25 pm to
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Tua's other injuries weren't serious.

The several different little injuries are what gets a player labeled as injury prone. There’s no way NFL teams don’t seriously take that into account when looking at him. It’s not his fault. Some guys like Brett Favre can repeatedly get destroyed yet get back up year after year without a scratch. Not everyone can do that.
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49682 posts
Posted on 11/16/19 at 4:26 pm to
How many full games have they played. How many has Tua played?


Edit: by full games I mean at least into the 4th
This post was edited on 11/16/19 at 4:27 pm
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26956 posts
Posted on 11/16/19 at 4:26 pm to
quote:

As of right now, the odds are greater that he isn't drafted AT ALL in 2020.


Show me where to find those odds then, because I'm about to make some hella money.


Obviously no such odds exist...just my opinion that there's no way in hell Tua gets drafted in the first round in 2020. So it's just simple math...even 1% is significantly higher than absolutely 0%

And if you've got some money you don't mind losing, that would be the easiest money I've ever made.
This post was edited on 11/16/19 at 4:27 pm
Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
In The Ham
Member since Nov 2017
11659 posts
Posted on 11/16/19 at 4:28 pm to
Half of the starting QB's in the NFL aren't worth a shite BUTTTTTTTTTTT their backup is worse. There is NO doubt that #13's injury history is going to cost him some big dollars but he will get a chance.
Posted by MagillaGuerilla
Nick Fairley Fan Club, Founder
Member since Nov 2009
35445 posts
Posted on 11/16/19 at 4:33 pm to
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And if you've got some money you don't mind losing, that would be the easiest money I've ever made.



Riiiight, I'd lose more money in the dryer than I'd lose on this.

Clearly you are not gonna be moved on your opinion, however wrong and misinformed I may think it is. No reason to continue.
Posted by Bear88
Member since Oct 2014
13200 posts
Posted on 11/16/19 at 4:35 pm to
It depends on the severity of the injury obviously . It is all speculation at this point but if it is a dislocation with a good prognosis , I don’t think teams will pass on a player who was going to possibly be the #1 overall pick too many times IMO
This post was edited on 11/16/19 at 4:38 pm
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26956 posts
Posted on 11/16/19 at 4:35 pm to
This is from the American Academy of Orthopaedic Surgeons: page on acetabular fractures.

"Most patients require crutches or a walker for a period of time. For some patients, partial weight bearing may be allowed after 6 to 8 weeks. Full weight bearing will not be allowed until your bones are fully healed, which usually takes from 3 to 4 months. You may require the use of a cane or a walking aid for a longer period of time.

It is important to follow your doctor's specific instructions for weight bearing. Walking on your injured leg prior to healing or participating in physical activities too soon may cause the fracture to shift. This can lead to unevenness in the hip socket or recurrent instability in the hip joint.

Physical Therapy
Despite weight-bearing restrictions, your doctor may encourage early movement. This means getting up out of bed and doing as much as feasible within specific weight-bearing limitations. In many cases, a physical therapist will provide instructions on how to safely begin moving and use crutches or a walker.

Over time you will learn other exercises to help you build strength and endurance so that you are better able to perform your daily activities.

Sports and Fitness Activities
If your goal is to resume sports or fitness activities, your doctor will guide you in a gradual progression to more vigorous activities. It is important to be aware that due to the complicated nature of many acetabular fractures, many patients are not be able to return to pre-injury levels of activity.

Your doctor will tell you when it is safe to begin low-impact activities, such as swimming and/or riding a stationary bicycle. However, it can take from 6 to 12 months to return to more vigorous sports activities."

Sure Tua will still be taken in the first round, even though he may not even be able to play next year.
Posted by Bigfoot67
Member since Mar 2013
2007 posts
Posted on 11/16/19 at 4:36 pm to
My Dad had his right hip replaced at the age of 86, was walking the next day. 3 months later, had his right knee replaced and was walking the next day and is still doing fine at 88.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26956 posts
Posted on 11/16/19 at 4:37 pm to
quote:

It depends on the severity of the injury obviously . It is all speculation at this point but if it is a dislocation with a good prognosis , I don’t think teams will pass on a player who was going to possibly be the #1 overall pick to many times IMO



Not merely a dislocation...a dislocation with a fracture. See above. The bottom line at this point is that no one knows, and no NFL team will spend a #1 pick if they don't know.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26956 posts
Posted on 11/16/19 at 4:37 pm to
at downvoting the American Academy of Orthopaedic Surgeons.
Posted by The Tom Arnold
Tuscaloosa
Member since Dec 2015
1549 posts
Posted on 11/16/19 at 4:38 pm to
quote:

acetabular fractures.


Not an acetabular fracture per reports.
This post was edited on 11/16/19 at 4:40 pm
Posted by Bamafan4evr12
Member since Jul 2014
1977 posts
Posted on 11/16/19 at 4:39 pm to
Tua’s injury isn’t the same as a joint replacement.
Posted by cajunbama
Metairie
Member since Jan 2007
30949 posts
Posted on 11/16/19 at 4:40 pm to
quote:

at downvoting the American Academy of Orthopaedic Surgeons.


That’s not what they are down voting. They are down voting you.
Posted by Bear88
Member since Oct 2014
13200 posts
Posted on 11/16/19 at 4:42 pm to
Exactly , can’t say if it is fractured or not at this point . All speculation . As I said in another thread , a player where I coach had a fracture and won’t be able to do anything for 3 months. Too early to say he would still be drafted in first round or not at all
This post was edited on 11/16/19 at 4:51 pm
Posted by Spread
Alabama
Member since Aug 2012
1150 posts
Posted on 11/16/19 at 4:42 pm to
quote:

It is important to be aware that due to the complicated nature of many acetabular fractures, many patients are not be able to return to pre-injury levels of activity.


This is worrisome...
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
75848 posts
Posted on 11/16/19 at 4:43 pm to
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Sure Tua will still be taken in the first round, even though he may not even be able to play next year. ?


That's all well and good, but it's also not what you said.

You said there was a chance he wouldn't be drafted at all in 2020. The only way that happens is if he returns for his Senior year.

Only an idiot would believe otherwise.
Posted by cajunbama
Metairie
Member since Jan 2007
30949 posts
Posted on 11/16/19 at 4:43 pm to
quote:

My Dad had his right hip replaced at the age of 86, was walking the next day. 3 months later, had his right knee replaced and was walking the next day and is still doing fine at 88.



That’s what you call a bad arse
Posted by Bigfoot67
Member since Mar 2013
2007 posts
Posted on 11/16/19 at 4:48 pm to
no doubt they made them a lot tougher back then....
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