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re: We've got a problem. Keelon expects to start.

Posted on 1/9/25 at 9:52 am to
Posted by Bear88
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Posted on 1/9/25 at 9:52 am to
Double post
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Posted by Oreo Speedwagon
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Posted on 1/9/25 at 9:55 am to
Maybe Ty is good and solid, but not great. Makes me a little nervous that he hasn’t been able to beat out Milroe. I know many will answer with “but nobody was going to beat out Milroe this year”. I disagree. Ty could have forced the issue with his play in practice. You won’t convince me that Deboer was willing to take losses just because he believed Milroe deserved to be the starter. If Ty was a clearly better option, he would have started.
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
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Posted on 1/9/25 at 9:56 am to
I like a guy with that kind of attitude and mindset.

If he comes in and performs well, demonstrates that he can do the job at a high level and takes the position, then he should be the starter.
This post was edited on 1/9/25 at 9:57 am
Posted by Sl0thstronautEsq
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Posted on 1/9/25 at 10:01 am to
I think it'll be interesting to see how Keelon handles the situation. Now that he's on campus, does he start organizing informal practice sessions with WRs and TEs?

He's already tight with RW, but will he develop relationships on and off the field with the rest of the guys leading up to, and through, Spring camp, or will Ty (or Mack) step up and be the guy to take on a leadership role?
Posted by Diego Ricardo
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Posted on 1/9/25 at 10:11 am to
quote:

Maybe Ty is good and solid, but not great. Makes me a little nervous that he hasn’t been able to beat out Milroe. I know many will answer with “but nobody was going to beat out Milroe this year”. I disagree. Ty could have forced the issue with his play in practice. You won’t convince me that Deboer was willing to take losses just because he believed Milroe deserved to be the starter. If Ty was a clearly better option, he would have started.



People seem to forget that his first outright bad performance was the Tennessee game and he followed that up by leading arguably our most balanced offensive performance of the season against Mizzou. 7 different receivers touched the ball, Milroe was not the leading rusher with Haynes leading in rushing yards and Miller leading in rushing touchdowns. I thought we had turned a corner in our approach after that game and this was going to be the attack going forward.

Regrettably, I think the LSU game playing out how it did intoxicated Sheridan, Milroe, DeBoer, or all three into reverting back to Milroe as the star of the show rather than a distributor. After that game - throwing out the Mercer scrimmage - we essentially got 3 games of Jalen Milroe Heroball.

By the time you get to the Oklahoma bed shitting, it was too late to make changes without it risking bad juju in the locker room to be quite honest.

This post was edited on 1/9/25 at 10:13 am
Posted by InkStainedWretch
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Posted on 1/9/25 at 10:12 am to
Or maybe the old rules don’t apply anymore in the NIL/portal era?
Posted by Bear88
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Posted on 1/9/25 at 10:15 am to
He may not start but his quote of “ They want me to come start ASAP” ( I know it is coach speak as well) at least leads me to believe he will be given every opportunity to win the job.
Posted by Teague
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Posted on 1/9/25 at 10:30 am to
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maybe the old rules don’t apply anymore in the NIL/portal era?


It wasn't a rule. It's just a fact that if your best option is a true freshman QB, you've got a problem.

I'm all for confidence. I'm also all for understanding how to present yourself verbally in a way that doesn't paint yourself or anyone else into a corner. You can word things in such a way that shows confidence, but also respect to your teammates and allows for the option that you don't get what you want. It doesn't mean he's a bad guy, but it points to exactly what I'm talking about with starting a freshman- immaturity/inexperience.

Maybe he's the exception, and is one of the very few QB's that can play at a NC level from day 1. But, I doubt it.

Posted by Bham Bammer
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Posted on 1/9/25 at 10:38 am to
I mean, I wouldn't expect him to say anything else. Spring practice will determine if he's even close to ready.

How many true freshmen started at QB this year in college football? It's very rare, and even more rare for elite or playoff-contending teams.
This post was edited on 1/9/25 at 10:42 am
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 1/9/25 at 10:46 am to



quote:

It wasn't a rule. It's just a fact that if your best option is a true freshman QB, you've got a problem.

I'm all for confidence. I'm also all for understanding how to present yourself verbally in a way that doesn't paint yourself or anyone else into a corner. You can word things in such a way that shows confidence, but also respect to your teammates and allows for the option that you don't get what you want. It doesn't mean he's a bad guy, but it points to exactly what I'm talking about with starting a freshman- immaturity/inexperience.

Maybe he's the exception, and is one of the very few QB's that can play at a NC level from day 1. But, I doubt it.


This is all rational.

I think that if Russell were to start as a true freshman, he'd have to be that good. If he is that good, then we are in for a treat. The chances of him being that special aren't that high, but it is possible.
This post was edited on 1/9/25 at 10:47 am
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
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Posted on 1/9/25 at 10:55 am to
quote:

How many true freshmen started at QB this year in college football? It's very rare, and even more rare for elite or playoff-contending teams.


I think Trevor Lawrence is the only true freshman starter to win a national title. The only true freshmen to lead their teams to a playoff are Jake Fromm, Jalen Hurts I believe.
Posted by JIB
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 1/9/25 at 10:56 am to
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How many true freshmen started at QB this year in college football? It's very rare, and even more rare for elite or playoff-contending teams.


Only a couple of true freshmen played meaningful time in P4 play this year.
Dylan Raiola for 7-6 Nebraska and CJ Bailey for 6-7 NC State. That's it I think. Raiola was highly sought out and was very good for a true freshman, but that's not saying much.
Posted by Carlton
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Posted on 1/9/25 at 10:59 am to
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I think Trevor Lawrence is the only true freshman starter to win a national title. The only true freshmen to lead their teams to a playoff are Jake Fromm, Jalen Hurts I believe.


We going to the chip, we going to the chip!
Posted by InkStainedWretch
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 1/9/25 at 11:30 am to
Maybe it’s just an alpha dog marking his territory? This might be a legend but I heard that Pat Trammell when he got off the freshman team threw a switchblade into a table in front of the other Bama QBs on the roster and said something to the effect of “The job is mine.”

People on here blast athletes for showing ego because they have this illusion of athletes being humble, aw shucks, non bragging types who just want to be part of the team.

Horse hockey. The great QBs all have tons of ego. They just know how to channel it constructively.

Again, if he’s not the best QB he should not have the job. If he is, he should play. If he blows his own horn a little bit, but backs it up, meh. It’s 2025 not 1965.
Posted by InkStainedWretch
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 1/9/25 at 11:31 am to
He should not have the job unless he earns it, and IMO if he earns it, it will be verification that he’s a generational talent.
Posted by Goforit
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Posted on 1/9/25 at 11:35 am to
Three good QBs. That is a problem most teams would like to have.
Posted by InkStainedWretch
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 1/9/25 at 11:36 am to
I will say again, there is an element of our fan base, for an assortment of reasons that I have discussed and some folks agreed with them and others didn’t which is fine, that is pulling for Simpson to get the job, wants him to be the best of the bunch, thinks he deserves or has earned the job.

If he wins the job, I will be his biggest booster. But he shouldn’t have the job if he doesn’t earn it with his performance on the field.
Posted by JIB
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 1/9/25 at 11:50 am to
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Three good QBs. That is a problem most teams would like to have.


Bama has 3 QBs that have a total of 1 college TD. There's not enough to go by to say we have 3 good QBs. We are going on hope at this point.
Posted by Bear88
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 1/9/25 at 11:57 am to
quote:

will say again, there is an element of our fan base, for an assortment of reasons that I have discussed and some folks agreed with them and others didn’t which is fine, that is pulling for Simpson to get the job, wants him to be the best of the bunch, thinks he deserves or has earned the job. If he wins the job, I will be his biggest booster. But he shouldn’t have the job if he doesn’t earn it with his performance on the field.


Yep. Got to make sure he “wins the locker room “ first . Will worry about throwing and reading a defense later
Posted by Carlton
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Posted on 1/9/25 at 12:06 pm to
4, Ty has 3 rushing and will likely be the fastest QB in College Football next year.

Based on what we have I think we are going to be great, at least Natty appearance. I think either Keelon (cause we have a lineage of first year QBs from Texas making the playoffs) or Mack (who is an absolutely marvel of a QB, leader of men, slinger of all things but mostly footballs, tall) will lead us to the championship. Then the night before CKD will access the traits of what a Bama QB needs to win a championship and he is going to use his elite strategy to possibly set up and Scott Frost style offense for Ty (with a little bit more slanging) and Jeff Hostetller Bama a title. We got 3 elite QBs and it is going to be lit.
This post was edited on 1/9/25 at 12:07 pm
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