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Posted on 2/16/21 at 9:13 am to
Posted by Chadaristic
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Posted on 2/16/21 at 9:13 am to
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3. Ambrose-Hylton (SO)



KAH would still be considered a freshman or no?

ETA: And Rojas a JR?
This post was edited on 2/16/21 at 9:14 am
Posted by DLev45
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Posted on 2/16/21 at 9:17 am to
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KAH would still be considered a freshman or no?

ETA: And Rojas a JR?


I ended up taking off the classes because I'm not sure how that is going to work with the COVID rules, either.

For football eligibility, it was like 2020 never happened, right? If you were a freshman, even if you played every game, you will be a freshman in 2021?

Is it the same for basketball? So Shack, for example, is a sophomore this season and will be a sophomore again next season, even though it will be his 3rd year playing?
This post was edited on 2/16/21 at 9:19 am
Posted by DLev45
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Posted on 2/16/21 at 9:24 am to
https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sports/aztecs/story/2020-10-14/san-diego-state-sdsu-aztecs-basketball-ncaa-extra-year-of-eligibility-new-transfer-rule

In this article talking about San Diego State, it says that all players, regardless of classification, get an extra year, and for returning seniors (i.e., Reese), that scholarship doesn't count towards the limit of 13.

So if Reese returned, Alabama could still add one more and have 14 scholarship players for next season, only.

So this is the 2021-22 roster with classification included:

PG (2):
1. Quinerly (SO-Rs)
2. Davidson (FR)

Wing (6):
1. Ellis (JR)
2. Shackelford (SO)
3. Gary (FR-Rs)
4. Primo (FR)
5. Miles (FR)
6. Holt (FR)

Bigs (4):
1. Rojas (JR)
2. Wilson (JR)
3. Tchikou (FR)
4. Ambrose-Hylton (FR)

Open spot (1)

* Herb, Petty, Bruner, Reese could all return (if they wanted to) and would not count against the 13 scholarship limit. Herb and Petty are gone for sure. Bruner is highly-likely gone. Reese is the one that I could maybe see sticking around for another season.

** Also adding McKinstry (FR) and Arnold (FR) as guards/wings as preferred walk-ons that count against football scholarships, not basketball scholarship.


This post was edited on 2/16/21 at 9:37 am
Posted by DLev45
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 2/16/21 at 10:00 am to
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So this is the 2021-22 roster with classification included:

PG (2):
1. Quinerly (SO-Rs)
2. Davidson (FR)

Wing (6):
1. Ellis (JR)
2. Shackelford (SO)
3. Gary (FR-Rs)
4. Primo (FR)
5. Miles (FR)
6. Holt (FR)

Bigs (4):
1. Rojas (JR)
2. Wilson (JR)
3. Tchikou (FR)
4. Ambrose-Hylton (FR)

Open spot (1)

* Herb, Petty, Bruner, Reese could all return (if they wanted to) and would not count against the 13 scholarship limit. Herb and Petty are gone for sure. Bruner is highly-likely gone. Reese is the one that I could maybe see sticking around for another season.

** Also adding McKinstry (FR) and Arnold (FR) as guards/wings as preferred walk-ons that count against football scholarships, not basketball scholarship.


With this roster, we would be returning 55.9% of our scoring (63.0% if you add Reese), but we would lose a lot on defense.

Herb, Petty, and Bruner are certainly 3 of our Top 5 defenders. I would have Ellis and Gary as the other 2.

Posted by Chadaristic
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 2/16/21 at 10:08 am to
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For football eligibility, it was like 2020 never happened, right? If you were a freshman, even if you played every game, you will be a freshman in 2021?

Is it the same for basketball? So Shack, for example, is a sophomore this season and will be a sophomore again next season, even though it will be his 3rd year playing?


Yes, that is correct. Shack's eligibility clock still reads him as a sophomore when next season starts.
Posted by Chadaristic
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 2/16/21 at 10:12 am to
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and for returning seniors (i.e., Reese), that scholarship doesn't count towards the limit of 13.



This is the only part i'm not 100% sure on. I saw the same link you posted and others on similar sites for Villanova and I think North Carolina, but when looking through the actual NCAA website I can't find anything that explicitly states that returning seniors won't count against the limit.

I looked all this up not that long ago (and posted it in either this thread or the megathread) when BigBird was asking about it. Let me see if I can find that post again so I can get the NCAA link about it.
Posted by Chadaristic
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 2/16/21 at 10:18 am to
Found it faster than I thought I would. And it isn't the actual NCAA website I found this on, but an article from The Washington Post.

LINK

quote:

The NCAA's Division I Council voted to give eligibility relief to winter-sport athletes regardless of how many games they play during the 2020-21 academic year. Athletes now have the opportunity to play five seasons within a six-year span rather than the typical four seasons in five years.


quote:

Schools self-apply this waiver for eligibility relief, meaning they get to choose whether athletes are allowed the extra season. Some athletic departments will not be able to afford the cost of doing so, particularly given the revenue deficits caused by the pandemic.

For fall sports, seniors who return for an extra season during the 2021-22 academic year will not count toward the team’s scholarship limit. However, in the years that follow, schools cannot exceed the limit, even though athletes on the team still would be allowed extra eligibility. In those cases, if schools choose to let athletes use their extra season of eligibility, it would effectively take away that scholarship from incoming recruits. The Division I Council’s announcement did not specify whether those same rules would be applied for winter sports.


So unless the NCAA has made an announcement regarding scholarship limits since October 14th, I guess we still don't know how they will handle that?

Would be awesome to get Reese back for another year without him counting as a scholarship though.
This post was edited on 2/16/21 at 10:33 am
Posted by DT55Forever1
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 2/16/21 at 11:29 am to
Bruner needs to come back. He's not ready for the NBA.
Wouldn't be surprised to see Reese back.
Posted by Crimsontide1713
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 2/16/21 at 12:13 pm to
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Bruner needs to come back. He's not ready for the NBA.


Bruner is a redshirt senior and has a degree from Yale. He would have left last year if not for COVID. He’s gone.
Posted by Chadaristic
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 2/16/21 at 7:55 pm to
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Congrats to Senior Jusaun Holt for earning Region Player of the Year for Region 6 - A Private. Well deserved, hard work pays off. Great to have him in our program.
Posted by Teague
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Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 2/16/21 at 8:14 pm to
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He would have left last year if not for COVID. He’s gone.


Where though? I'd be very surprised if he gets drafted in the NBA.
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
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Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 2/16/21 at 10:18 pm to
Probably making a lot of money in corporate America. Yale grads aren’t exactly a dime a dozen

Langston Wilson has the skillset to be an elite defender of nothing else. Kid has Gerald Wallace bounce
Posted by Chadaristic
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 2/17/21 at 6:27 am to
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Where though?


They play professional basketball all around the world.
Posted by DT55Forever1
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 2/17/21 at 12:05 pm to
He's not getting drafted after this season and my understanding is that he could come back due to Covid.
Another year in this system, he might get drafted.
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 2/17/21 at 12:14 pm to
He's not getting drafted, but Bruner is the type of guy who does so many small things that help you win that I'd imagine he has a future in the NBA or at worst the top levels of European basketball.
Posted by Chadaristic
Member since Jan 2011
40779 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 4:51 pm to
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The NCAA has extended the dead period until May 31st.

There will be more and more kids committing to schools via Zoom calls and w/o ever having seen the campus.
Posted by CrimsonFever
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Posted on 2/17/21 at 10:24 pm to
JD was two steals from a quadruple double.
Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 2/17/21 at 10:38 pm to
Bump
Posted by Chadaristic
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 2/18/21 at 8:32 am to
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McDonald’s will not host its prestigious All American game for the second straight year due to COVID-19 concerns. Instead they will host a virtual celebration for the finalists, who will be named later this month.
Posted by Chadaristic
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 2/18/21 at 8:55 am to
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Texas Tech transfer Nimari Burnett tells @Stockrisers that he's planned on possibly choosing a school in April. Illinois, Alabama, USC, Vanderbilt, and Oregon amongst those heavily in pursuit of the former McDonald's All-American.
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