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re: Two Seasons- Coach Cig Vs CKD

Posted on 1/22/26 at 8:57 am to
Posted by PMHBammer
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 1/22/26 at 8:57 am to
I don't think anyone is going to argue that CC appears to be a better coach than KDB. And yes, he's been way more successful the last two years than KDB has been despite starting with a worse program.

Does that mean KDB should be fired because you can name a better hire? We knew KDB was going to retool the program, he runs a different system and he's a different type of coach. Byrne also learned from Alabama's past mistakes of chasing a Bear disciple and hoping to catch lightning in a bottle again. It's also easy to name the Saban assistants who have been successful, but there are just as many that also failed. Byrne went out and hired a coach who had been successful everywhere, much like CC, and a coach who had just played for the national title 4 days prior. It was a good hire at the time and now we have to see if it pays off. There's no guarantee with any of these hires.
Posted by bamaguy17
Member since Jul 2022
1259 posts
Posted on 1/22/26 at 8:59 am to
Also add in that the knock on Cig was his age and that being used against him in recruiting. You know, back when recruiting still mattered
Posted by PowHound
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Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 1/22/26 at 9:06 am to
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It's also easy to name the Saban assistants who have been successful,


Sure is because every team in the playoff was coached by a Saban disciple except for.... Bama

That Saban guy must have known a thing or two about football. Good thing Byrne had the good sense to go in another direction
Posted by labamafan
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 1/22/26 at 9:18 am to
So pimp your wife out to Kiffin and then pony your money up. You might be a cuck but most men are not.
Posted by PowHound
The Peoples Moderator
Member since Jul 2014
7294 posts
Posted on 1/22/26 at 9:31 am to
Don't need to pimp my wife out, Im already pimping yours.

Tell her I said Gators bitches better be wearing jimmies



Posted by LovetheLord
The Ash Grove
Member since Dec 2010
6533 posts
Posted on 1/22/26 at 9:36 am to
This is the same dude who will say, “I don’t have to give my money to some entitled teenager,” but then comes in and complains about the team. He has zero stake in the team. He’s not a player. Not a coach. Not a financial supporter. He is a free loader who feels entitled.

Really, if a person is not a contributor in some way, then they have no skin in the game, and they need to keep their mouth shut.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
19941 posts
Posted on 1/22/26 at 9:39 am to
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Are you suggesting that Alabama couldn't have hired Coach Cig, or Coach Kiffin ?


I think you're overvaluing both. While Cig is a good coach he hit lightning in a bottle; everyone will adjust.

With Kiffin, he hasn't even won anything so I don't get the love his way.

We have a good coach, he just needs to adapt a little and make some changes to the staff and then you'll be complaining about how everyone wants to hire him away
Posted by NWLA_Bama
Member since Aug 2024
1560 posts
Posted on 1/22/26 at 9:41 am to
There's no doubt, CC is a better coach than CKD. But as you said, at the time Byrne hired the best perceived coach that was available. If it were so obvious Cignetti was as good as he is, Indiana wouldn't have even had a shot at him. So, I can't blame Byrne for that. It's not like Cignetti had a line of blue blood P4 teams begging for his services.

The best thing for us to do is give DeBoer year three and year four to prove himself then make a decision. In this day and age of the transfer portal there's no need to give a coach longer than four years to prove himself. If he can't prove himself in four years he's probably not your guy.

Posted by NWLA_Bama
Member since Aug 2024
1560 posts
Posted on 1/22/26 at 9:43 am to
[quote]I think you're overvaluing both. While Cig is a good coach he hit lightning in a bottle; everyone will adjust.[/quote]

That's what was said about him in year 1 at Indiana then he turned around and won a NC. Granted, regardless of whether it was lightning in a bottle or not, teams will adjust. They always do. Climbing the mountain is hard, staying at the top is harder.
Posted by PMHBammer
Member since Aug 2010
163 posts
Posted on 1/22/26 at 10:13 am to
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That Saban guy must have known a thing or two about football.


Yeah, but we aren't hiring Saban, you'd be hiring a former assistant and flipping a coin. He's had plenty of assistant failures that you're overlooking. We could have also hired a Will Muschamp, Jeremy Pruitt, Jim McElwain, or Billy Napier, who at one time were equal or bigger names than Cig when IU made the hire. Instead we hired a coach who just played for a national championship.
Posted by labamafan
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2007
26846 posts
Posted on 1/22/26 at 12:42 pm to
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Don't need to pimp my wife out, Im already pimping yours. Tell her I said Gators bitches better be wearing jimmies



You’re too stupid to even understand what I was talking about.
Posted by Vulcan Materials
Member since May 2022
1429 posts
Posted on 1/22/26 at 1:49 pm to
What this post doesn’t take into account is the fact that the B1G is incredibly top heavy.

Indiana has 3 teams on their schedule at any given time and can just cruise control on the rest of them. The SEC is more middle heavy and does not have a clear alpha, which makes the conference overall look weaker in post season play.

Put Alabama in the B1G and they look just like Indiana until you get to the post season where they likely get exposed.
Posted by bamabonners
Alabama
Member since Nov 2015
5094 posts
Posted on 1/22/26 at 8:53 pm to
You'll get down voted, but you ain't wrong. Year 3 needs to break the cycle of 4 losses and showing up unprepared.
This post was edited on 1/22/26 at 8:55 pm
Posted by Shocco
Member since Nov 2015
2339 posts
Posted on 1/22/26 at 8:56 pm to
OP is generally correct.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
63337 posts
Posted on 1/23/26 at 12:01 am to
quote:

Two Seasons


Many of those players followed him from JMU. Let's not pretend.
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