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Posted on 7/15/24 at 8:06 pm to mistaken4193
Posted on 7/15/24 at 8:06 pm to mistaken4193
It's not an exaggeration to say that pulling Dybansta puts us in another stratosphere in recruiting. He is being hyped equally to Cooper Flagg, Wemby, Zion, LeBron...that level of prospect. Purely in reference to prospect hype, he's arguably top 30 in the history of the sport, maybe even top 10. He's a 5star++ prospect. Expected to be #1 overall by a mile in his NBA draft.
AJ is the kind of player who has gravity, every player in the 5 classes after him knows him, and will want to go to Bama because of him. It's similar to the pull Flagg has for Duke right now.
Nate has Bama in a place I thought I would never get to see.
AJ is the kind of player who has gravity, every player in the 5 classes after him knows him, and will want to go to Bama because of him. It's similar to the pull Flagg has for Duke right now.
Nate has Bama in a place I thought I would never get to see.
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Posted on 7/15/24 at 8:18 pm to VaBamaMan
Agreed. He's a franchise cornerstone type pro prospect and if he had been in this year's draft he's a lock for #1 overall despite being 17. If by some miracle from above we sign him and he ends up actually playing for us instead of getting cold feet the moment he rolls his ankle a bit in a summer practice we're going to be on national television like 10-15 times.
Posted on 7/15/24 at 9:20 pm to VaBamaMan
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AJ is the kind of player who has gravity, every player in the 5 classes after him knows him, and will want to go to Bama because of him
Yep
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It's similar to the pull Flagg has for Duke right now.
I don't think there's a ton of 8th graders wanting to go to Duke because of Flagg. But his hype is definitely insane, and he's pretty well penciled in at #1 in the draft. Maybe 8th graders in Maine. But not prospects.
Posted on 7/15/24 at 9:21 pm to VaBamaMan
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He is being hyped equally to Cooper Flagg, Wemby, Zion, LeBron...that level of prospect
A couple of these things are not like the others lol. Flagg maybe. Zion possibly. But the hype for LeBron and Wemby are once every 20 year type situation and transcends normal basketball or recruiting.
He’s obviously a major major player. But you could put Wembenyama on the course with 4 Kai Spears and have a good shot at a title. He’s insane.
Posted on 7/16/24 at 5:11 am to Sandkhan
I'm not kidding, I have seen the same level of hype for Flagg and AJ among draftniks as Wemby. Go look through the threads on the NBA draft subreddit, it's mostly been Flagg conversations lately because of the NBA select team, but there are absolutely people putting them in that tier. There was a huge thread on there a while back discussing who was a better prospect between Flagg and Wemby. I thought they were crazy too. But the NBA select team has pushed Flagg to an even higher hype level, and AJ is considered on the same level as Flagg. People are calling the one Boozer twin generational too, but still have AJ a level above him.
I think some of the hype is due to there not being any hyper elite US prospects the past few cycles. And some of it is simple overhype. A lot of these people believe Flagg and AJ would beat a Brandon Miller or Jabari Smith 1v1 right now. Which is ludicrous.
I think some of the hype is due to there not being any hyper elite US prospects the past few cycles. And some of it is simple overhype. A lot of these people believe Flagg and AJ would beat a Brandon Miller or Jabari Smith 1v1 right now. Which is ludicrous.
This post was edited on 7/16/24 at 5:14 am
Posted on 7/16/24 at 9:58 am to VaBamaMan
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I think some of the hype is due to there not being any hyper elite US prospects the past few cycles
I think a big reason for that is our developmental system is bad compared to other countries. AAU isn't teaching kids good basketball. It's teaching them individual play instead of team, and defense is non-existent. You're slowly starting to see a greater emphasis on fundamentals. But there's a reason smaller countries have started catching up.
Posted on 7/16/24 at 2:56 pm to CCTider
10000%
Overseas they work on fundamentals Monday through Friday, and then have games on the weekends.
Here they only plays games, and as you said it's basically all ISO ball. Hardly any plays are run, ever, in AAU.
Overseas they work on fundamentals Monday through Friday, and then have games on the weekends.
Here they only plays games, and as you said it's basically all ISO ball. Hardly any plays are run, ever, in AAU.
Posted on 7/16/24 at 4:00 pm to VaBamaMan
Brandon Miller is different! Underrated badly out of highschool. He doesn't really have holes in his game. That's the big difference between him and the players mentioned.
Posted on 7/16/24 at 8:31 pm to VaBamaMan
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Overseas they work on fundamentals Monday through Friday, and then have games on the weekends.
I've also heard that in a lot of them have had success, they make all of their players learn all 5 positions. That way, regardless of what your job is, you know what everyone's job is. It's led to a court awareness that you can see in guys like Doncic and Jokic. Serbia seems like it's always produced big men who can pass well. And that more valuable than ever in the modern game.
Posted on 7/17/24 at 3:12 am to CCTider
Five-star and No. 1 recruit AJ Dybantsa has Alabama in his top-10
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/five-star-and-no-1-recruit-aj-dybantsa-has-alabama-in-his-top-10/ar-BB1q5XHv?ocid=sapphireappshare
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/five-star-and-no-1-recruit-aj-dybantsa-has-alabama-in-his-top-10/ar-BB1q5XHv?ocid=sapphireappshare
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"I've known Preston (Murphy), he used to coach me at EYBL. He used to be my Expressions coach, my freshman year playing 17s," Dybantsa said. "I know a lot about him (Murphy), but I don't know a lot about the school. I've talked to Nate Oats when I got the offer. They had a good run. Two of my teammates (Derrion Reid and Aiden Sherrell) went there, so they obviously think its good, so we'll see."
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Posted on 7/17/24 at 5:56 am to VaBamaMan
Overseas they work on fundamentals Monday through Friday, and then have games on the weekends. Here they only plays games, and as you said it's basically all ISO ball. Hardly any plays are run, ever, in AAU.
I think the idea of the rest of the world catching up to America in basketball is a little overblown. In 1992 it was obvious that the rest of the world was way behind, so of course they’ve closed the gap. But, on the national stage the US is still far and away the best.
The AAU system has had an impact on younger basketball players, but the U17 national team has 7 golds in 7 attempts. So if it’s hurting the game, it’s not evident there. The Olympic squads win when motivated - and that to me is where the drop off has been more so than talent.
I think the idea of the rest of the world catching up to America in basketball is a little overblown. In 1992 it was obvious that the rest of the world was way behind, so of course they’ve closed the gap. But, on the national stage the US is still far and away the best.
The AAU system has had an impact on younger basketball players, but the U17 national team has 7 golds in 7 attempts. So if it’s hurting the game, it’s not evident there. The Olympic squads win when motivated - and that to me is where the drop off has been more so than talent.
Posted on 7/17/24 at 1:10 pm to FreedomBarefoot
Dybantsa just kinda seems like it's going to be an all out bidding war. I can't imagine him getting less than $2 million, based on numbers thrown around this past portal season.
It sounds like everything is going through his dad. He's barely spoken to the changes l coaches himself. I guess his dad was a campus cop at Boston University, but now works on "Utah Prep’s newly formed administration team at its new campus at the mouth of Zion National Park in southern Utah." Sounds pretty odd overall.
I think we have a lot of things in place to make a serious run for AJ. But coming up with the minimum for him is going to be tough. I'm not sure if our top 3 guys combined are even getting the amount it'll take. And unless we have some big boosters decide they want point up big for a generational player, i don't see how it wouldn't kill our team budget. We're gonna need lagniappe to make it work, so that our overall talent is still there and not top heavy.
It sounds like everything is going through his dad. He's barely spoken to the changes l coaches himself. I guess his dad was a campus cop at Boston University, but now works on "Utah Prep’s newly formed administration team at its new campus at the mouth of Zion National Park in southern Utah." Sounds pretty odd overall.
I think we have a lot of things in place to make a serious run for AJ. But coming up with the minimum for him is going to be tough. I'm not sure if our top 3 guys combined are even getting the amount it'll take. And unless we have some big boosters decide they want point up big for a generational player, i don't see how it wouldn't kill our team budget. We're gonna need lagniappe to make it work, so that our overall talent is still there and not top heavy.
Posted on 7/17/24 at 5:57 pm to CCTider
Clifford Omoruyi turned down bigger offers to play in our system. No doubt our offer was high too, but not what some were offering.
Posted on 7/17/24 at 6:26 pm to CCTider
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I think a big reason for that is our developmental system is bad compared to other countries. AAU isn't teaching kids good basketball. It's teaching them individual play instead of team, and defense is non-existent. You're slowly starting to see a greater emphasis on fundamentals. But there's a reason smaller countries have started catching up.
This is strictly my opinion and Ive said this for years. Aau is bad.
There are some kids that play 5-10 games per weekend in aau tournaments.
I took little pioneer out of aau this year to focus on development. We had aau practice 4x a week last year at almost 2 hours. This was 3rd grade.
We have done individual workouts and group workouts with the older kids(+1 or +2 in grade level up)
Ive seen 6th graders here locally still shooting two handed.
Unfortunately, For alot of these kids AAU is the only way to get noticed and I tell all these kids. Dont let D1 be the end all be all. Theres no shame in going to d2,d3, naia, juco.
Theres nothing wrong with being a 3 time all American at the d2 level.
Posted on 7/17/24 at 9:21 pm to pioneerbasketball
Posted on 7/18/24 at 6:28 am to pioneerbasketball
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Theres no shame in going to d2,d3, naia, juco.
Theres nothing wrong with being a 3 time all American at the d2 level.
There's also the NCCAA schools, and even at that low of a level those guys are good. I attended Mid-America Christian University in 2005 and we had a former McDonald's All-American on the roster. I can't remember his name, but he signed with Bobby Knight at Texas Tech before having grade issues. We had at least 1 NBA scout come to a game. You can be seen anywhere.
Posted on 7/18/24 at 9:15 am to pioneerbasketball
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We had aau practice 4x a week last year at almost 2 hours. This was 3rd grade.
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Dont let D1 be the end all be all.
I know a kid right now who is on an AAU team, practices constantly, and his parents pay for private coaching.
Every time I'm around them that's all they talk about, and we have to watch all the videos, hear about the games, etc.
And I don't have the heart to tell them that he's just... not good enough.
He'll never play, anywhere, at the DI level.
I don't even know if he wants to do it anymore, because I can tell he's starting to figure it out and get frustrated.
This whole thing is a machine, and I wish everyone could just find their place and be happy (while they can) instead of hustling for a $20m Nike contract that is never going to happen.
Posted on 7/18/24 at 11:22 am to paperwasp
Know two different people that went pushed this with their daughters in travel softball. One got a partial scholarship to a d2 school in TN, the either is entering her 2nd year at a local juco school here in Al...alot of the time it is parents living vicariously thru their kids unfortunately.
Posted on 7/18/24 at 1:51 pm to peptide
Posted on 7/18/24 at 5:58 pm to VaBamaMan
Was in the service with a dude the went to D3, Depaw in Indiana. Was a straight up baller.
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