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Posted by Chadaristic
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Posted on 3/8/22 at 6:56 pm to
Peter Kiss is so much fun.
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Posted by Chadaristic
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Posted on 3/8/22 at 7:10 pm to
Posted by Chadaristic
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Posted on 3/8/22 at 7:18 pm to
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A lot has been said about the amount of turnovers that the Alabama lead guards have had this season, but after looking at the numbers, JD Davison and Jahvon Quinerly have turnover figures that are in line with a number of former Alabama ball-handlers



Posted by train1523
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Posted on 3/8/22 at 7:53 pm to
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Can’t remember which player but there was a girlfriend issue with one of them around that time - seems like she was messing around with another person in the program (player, staff or coach) and the player left after the season.


Could be completely misremembering this but wasn’t that Ron Steele’s girlfriend? Again, could be completely misremembering but I feel like Gottfried was banging her or something and that’s why he effectively quit the team mid season.
Posted by Bear88
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 3/8/22 at 7:56 pm to
SIAP but looks like Brittany will be back for one more year for the ladies

Twitter
Posted by CrimsonBoz
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 3/8/22 at 8:04 pm to
I mean I’ll take it but damn that seems like a long shot.
Posted by mistaken4193
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Posted on 3/8/22 at 8:08 pm to
A Massive Brawl broke out in the stands at the NEC Championship.
Posted by Alabama_Fan
The Road Less Traveled
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Posted on 3/8/22 at 8:12 pm to
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train1523

I think that may be it!
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 3/8/22 at 8:20 pm to
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A Massive Brawl broke out in the stands at the NEC Championship.


The random shirtless guy in the middle of it needs to become a meme.
Posted by Joka2kold
Member since Nov 2019
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Posted on 3/8/22 at 8:26 pm to
I always said just with the way Nate Oats system/tempo is...I think you will have your lead guard with those types of turnover numbers all the time. Just my opinion though.
Posted by Chadaristic
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 3/8/22 at 8:26 pm to
Guy in the USA jersey took a solid shot right in the mouth on a sneak job.


ETA: 10 sec mark.
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Posted by mistaken4193
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Posted on 3/8/22 at 9:31 pm to
South Dakota State best player is having a horrendous game
Posted by East Coast Band
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Posted on 3/8/22 at 9:57 pm to
The JackRabbits won.
Went undefeated in conference play, 30-4
Posted by mistaken4193
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Posted on 3/8/22 at 9:59 pm to
Jackrabbits win.


9 of our 13 Non-Conf opponents will be in NCAA tournament with Louisiana Tech still to go.

The 3 who are out All won at least 20 games. Unreal schedule. One of the toughest ever

Edit: Davidson and Iona still technically to go
This post was edited on 3/8/22 at 10:39 pm
Posted by mistaken4193
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 3/8/22 at 10:01 pm to
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The JackRabbits won. Went undefeated in conference play, 30-4


I think they will win a Game next week
This post was edited on 3/8/22 at 10:02 pm
Posted by TomRollTideRitter
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 3/9/22 at 12:44 am to
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JD Davison and Jahvon Quinerly have turnover figures that are in line with a number of former Alabama ball-handlers


What is the comparative usage rates though? Obasohan, Sexton, Releford, Kira - these guys were the only ball handlers on their team. Q and especially JD aren’t asked to do nearly as much as those guys.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105802 posts
Posted on 3/9/22 at 7:34 am to
From Torvik

2022 JD Davison - 29.2 TO Rate, 20.9 Usage Rate
2022 Jahvon Quinerly - 21.0 TO Rate, 24.9 Usage Rate

2021 Jahvon Quinerly - 20.2 TO Rate, 24.6 Usage Rate
2021 Herb Jones - 22.9 TO Rate, 24.3 Usage Rate

2020 Kira Lewis - 20.0 TO Rate, 24.7 Usage Rate

2019 Kira Lewis - 17.9 TO Rate, 22.0 Usage Rate
2019 Dazon Ingram - 26.1 TO Rate, 19.7 Usage Rate
2019 Avery Jr - 12.5 TO Rate, 13.2 Usage Rate

2018 Collin Sexton - 16.2 TO Rate, 32.5 Usage Rate
2018 Dazon Ingram - 21.7 TO Rate, 20.4 Usage Rate
2018 Avery Jr - 12.4 TO Rate, 17.3 Usage Rate

2017 Dazon Ingram - 24.2 TO Rate, 22.2 Usage Rate
2017 Avery Jr - 14.7 TO Rate, 22.1 Usage Rate

2016 Retin Obasohan - 16.2 TO Rate, 28.5 Usage Rate
2016 Justin Coleman - 21.0 TO Rate, 21.4 Usage Rate

2015 Ricky Tarrant - 16.1 TO Rate, 27.2 Usage Rate
2015 Justin Coleman - 19.4 TO Rate, 19.0 Usage Rate

2014 Trevor Releford - 18.1 TO Rate, 26.4 Usage Rate

2013 Trevor Releford - 15.3 TO Rate, 23.1 Usage Rate

2012 Trevor Releford - 18.7 TO Rate, 21.3 Usage Rate

2011 Trevor Releford - 23.8 TO Rate, 21.2 Usage Rate



JQ's turnover numbers this year are above average in comparison but not horrific. JD's are catastrophic, all-time worst bad.
This post was edited on 3/9/22 at 7:45 am
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 3/9/22 at 7:49 am to
SEC Players (Last 5 years) (min 50% mins, 20 usage rate) - Ranked by Worst Turnover Rate

1. JD Davison (Alabama) (2022) (29.2)
2. Sahvir Wheeler (Georgia) (2020) (27.6)
3. Eric Gaines (LSU) (2022) (27.0)
4. Marcus Williams (TAMU) (2022) (27.0)
5. Jarron Coleman (Mizzou) (2022) (26.0)


SEC Players (Last 10 years) (min 50% mins, 20 usage rate) - Ranked by Worst Turnover Rate

1. Charles Mann (Georgia) (2013) (30.9)
2. Craig Sword (Miss St) (2013) (29.3)
3. Alex Caruson (TAMU) (2013) (29.2)
3. JD Davison (Alabama) (2022) (29.2)
5. Alex Caruso (TAMU) (2015) (28.4)
This post was edited on 3/9/22 at 7:52 am
Posted by DT55Forever1
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 3/9/22 at 7:51 am to
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2022 JD Davison - 29.2 TO Rate, 20.9 Usage Rate


I know he's a freshman, but man, that's brutal.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105802 posts
Posted on 3/9/22 at 7:53 am to
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I know he's a freshman, but man, that's brutal.



I think that he can absolutely get better, but he's turned the ball over at a rate that ranks up there with the worst of the last decade. It's really hard to win when that happens, no matter how good the other stuff is.
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