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Posted on 3/4/22 at 9:36 am to Chadaristic
Posted on 3/4/22 at 9:36 am to Chadaristic
Just A Minute: Alabama Men's Basketball Doesn't Have to Look Far For Inspiration (SI)
While the Crimson Tide men's team remains an enigma, the women are making an impressive NCAA Tournament charge.
While the Crimson Tide men's team remains an enigma, the women are making an impressive NCAA Tournament charge.
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Posted on 3/4/22 at 9:44 am to Alabama_Fan
Posted on 3/4/22 at 9:53 am to mistaken4193
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Aren’t they suppose to avoid rematches? I don’t want them again…no thanks
Depends who is really choosing the match ups. Those controlled by tv contracts like some rematches unless it's conference. Like I said earlier, I could see them put us up against S. Dakota St, Iona or Davidson in the first round or UCLA or Houston in the second. Usually, you might see a rematch in only one of the first two rounds.
For Auburn, you might see them try to set up a rematch with UCONN since they played earlier in the year and UCONN beat them in 2OT
This post was edited on 3/4/22 at 9:55 am
Posted on 3/4/22 at 10:09 am to Robot Santa
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This take will probably age like milk, but I would be OK with that. They're the stereotypical experienced, well coached mid-major full of white kids who never miss open shots that'll torch the frick out of our joke of a defense, but in our first matchup they had absolutely no means of slowing us down and I doubt they have gotten bigger or more athletic since November.
I actually kind of agree.
Our krytonite, other than ourselves, are athletic teams that drive the rim and don't mind slowing down combined with long defenders.
Posted on 3/4/22 at 10:21 am to Alabama_Fan
People gotta relax with articles like that lmfao. Alabama is a 5-seed with one regular season game left. The women's team has to hope they can win one more SECT game just to have a shot at being in the first 4 out. There is no comparison.
Mens team: A good team that is very inconsistent. Could potentially make a Sweet 16 run.
Womens team: A below average NIT type team that got hot the last 2 games. Probably won’t make the NCAAT and will be an early exit 100% if they do.
Mens team: A good team that is very inconsistent. Could potentially make a Sweet 16 run.
Womens team: A below average NIT type team that got hot the last 2 games. Probably won’t make the NCAAT and will be an early exit 100% if they do.
This post was edited on 3/4/22 at 10:22 am
Posted on 3/4/22 at 10:49 am to SummerOfGeorge
Yeah they're smallish and play fast. We dropped 104 on them despite a not great shooting night because they couldn't stop us from getting into the paint. We made 2/3 of our 2pt attempts. They could definitely beat us in a shootout, but I just don't see them having any way to limit us. I'd be pretty surprised if we lost to a typical mid-major (not teams like Gonzaga, Houston or Memphis) who plays at our pace.
Posted on 3/4/22 at 11:21 am to Robot Santa
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Nate Oats on the team's response after the A&M loss: "I think the guys realized it wasn't good. Why we continue to have to learn the same lesson over and over again this year is a little mind-boggling to me. ... We've responded well every time we've had these losses."
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Nate Oats on leadership: "The guys that we need to lead have been playing hard in practice and trying to lead. There's a leadership void after a loss like that, so sometimes guys step into that void. We're gonna see how the leadership goes."
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Nate Oats on LSU: "The biggest thing since the last time we played them is (Xavier) Pinson's playing. He didn't against us. And then (Darius) Days got hurt and didn't play the whole game against us. They're both back and playing well. They'll have their full roster."
Posted on 3/4/22 at 11:32 am to Robot Santa
Possible 1st round matchups that fit the "slow, good against drive, good at making 2s and drawing fouls" template that should be a red flashing light if we draw them:
#s are only vs Top 150 Opponents (to weed out dominating terrible teams)
San Diego State (currently a #9 on BracketMatrix)
- #276 2PT% (43.9%)
- #285 Tempo (66.2)
- #2 2PT Defense (41.5%)
- #82 Defensive Rebound % (27.3%)
Creighton (currently a #10 on BracketMatrix)
- #48 2PT% (51.7%)
- #215 Tempo (67.5)
- #8 2PT Defense (43.8%)
- #92 Defensive Rebound % (27.6%)
Wake Forest (currently a #10 on BracketMatrix)
- #7 2PT% (56.3%)
- #112 Tempo (69.6)
- #26 2PT Defense (46.4%)
- #81 Defensive Rebound % (27.2%)
Loyola Chicago (currently a #12 on BracketMatrix)
- #12 2PT% (55.0%)
- #325 Tempo (64.9)
- #134 2PT Defense (51.0%)
- #60 Defensive Rebound % (26.4%)
New Mexico State (currently #14 seed on BracketMatrix)
- #76 2PT% (50.1%)
- #258 Tempo (66.7)
- #24 2PT Defense (46.1%)
- #60 Defensive Rebound % (26.4%)
SMU (currently 4th team out on BracketMatrix)
- #72 2PT% (50.2%)
- #128 Tempo (69.2)
- #15 2PT Defense (45.0%)
- #198 Defensive Rebound % (30.8%)
Memphis, obviously, also fits this mold.
#s are only vs Top 150 Opponents (to weed out dominating terrible teams)
San Diego State (currently a #9 on BracketMatrix)
- #276 2PT% (43.9%)
- #285 Tempo (66.2)
- #2 2PT Defense (41.5%)
- #82 Defensive Rebound % (27.3%)
Creighton (currently a #10 on BracketMatrix)
- #48 2PT% (51.7%)
- #215 Tempo (67.5)
- #8 2PT Defense (43.8%)
- #92 Defensive Rebound % (27.6%)
Wake Forest (currently a #10 on BracketMatrix)
- #7 2PT% (56.3%)
- #112 Tempo (69.6)
- #26 2PT Defense (46.4%)
- #81 Defensive Rebound % (27.2%)
Loyola Chicago (currently a #12 on BracketMatrix)
- #12 2PT% (55.0%)
- #325 Tempo (64.9)
- #134 2PT Defense (51.0%)
- #60 Defensive Rebound % (26.4%)
New Mexico State (currently #14 seed on BracketMatrix)
- #76 2PT% (50.1%)
- #258 Tempo (66.7)
- #24 2PT Defense (46.1%)
- #60 Defensive Rebound % (26.4%)
SMU (currently 4th team out on BracketMatrix)
- #72 2PT% (50.2%)
- #128 Tempo (69.2)
- #15 2PT Defense (45.0%)
- #198 Defensive Rebound % (30.8%)
Memphis, obviously, also fits this mold.
This post was edited on 3/4/22 at 11:41 am
Posted on 3/4/22 at 11:38 am to SummerOfGeorge
On the flip side, a few teams that would be great to see (using these metrics)
- Northern Iowa (#13 BracketMatrix)
- Chattanooga (#13 BracketMatrix)
- South Dakota State (#12 BracketMatrix)
- Miami (#11 BracketMatrix)
- Michigan (#11 BracketMatrix)
- Northern Iowa (#13 BracketMatrix)
- Chattanooga (#13 BracketMatrix)
- South Dakota State (#12 BracketMatrix)
- Miami (#11 BracketMatrix)
- Michigan (#11 BracketMatrix)
This post was edited on 3/4/22 at 11:39 am
Posted on 3/4/22 at 11:43 am to SummerOfGeorge
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"I’ve gotta do a better job building leaders, helping them to become leaders, and that’s where I’ve somewhat failed this team a little bit, to be honest with you," Oats said. "Because we don’t have as good of internal leadership as we’ve had in the past and we need to be, to be honest with you.”
Posted on 3/4/22 at 11:46 am to Chadaristic
I'm glad he's kind of accepting some blame for this. I'm ok with him being blunt and not always doing the "aw shucks I'm the coach and it's my fault" thing, but it was not a great look to always blame the players for the effort stuff.
Hopefully he incorporates this sort of evaluation into his roster building the next few years in terms of recruiting and the portal (my guess is he does). I give him a pass for this year with it still being early in his tenure (in terms of still having a roster with a lot of prior pieces) and the injuries/Primo departure that kind of gutted one of the key areas this team needed (athletic wings who can defend).
Hopefully he incorporates this sort of evaluation into his roster building the next few years in terms of recruiting and the portal (my guess is he does). I give him a pass for this year with it still being early in his tenure (in terms of still having a roster with a lot of prior pieces) and the injuries/Primo departure that kind of gutted one of the key areas this team needed (athletic wings who can defend).
This post was edited on 3/4/22 at 11:48 am
Posted on 3/4/22 at 11:50 am to Chadaristic
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quote: "I’ve gotta do a better job building leaders, helping them to become leaders, and that’s where I’ve somewhat failed this team a little bit, to be honest with you," Oats said. "Because we don’t have as good of internal leadership as we’ve had in the past and we need to be, to be honest with you.”
This is exactly what I have been thinking. Leaders in team sports are very important. Coaches need to work on developing them every year. Cannot go into a season hoping someone would emerge. Need to identify and then counsel alpha's on the team.
This post was edited on 3/4/22 at 11:53 am
Posted on 3/4/22 at 12:10 pm to My2Bits
Hypothetical question:
Lose to LSU
Lose in first round of SEC tourney
Make a run in the NCAA tournament to the Elite 8
Do you deem the year a success or no? Curious what y’all think
Lose to LSU
Lose in first round of SEC tourney
Make a run in the NCAA tournament to the Elite 8
Do you deem the year a success or no? Curious what y’all think
Posted on 3/4/22 at 12:14 pm to TrojanTide
Absolutely a success. An Elite 8 has only been accomplished once in our entire basketball history.
Posted on 3/4/22 at 12:14 pm to TrojanTide
Elite 8? Absolutely!
I haven’t seen anything lately that makes me think we can string three wins together against good teams though.
I haven’t seen anything lately that makes me think we can string three wins together against good teams though.
Posted on 3/4/22 at 12:17 pm to TrojanTide
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Hypothetical question:
Lose to LSU
Lose in first round of SEC tourney
Make a run in the NCAA tournament to the Elite 8
Do you deem the year a success or no? Curious what y’all think
I'm not sure I even understand the argument against that being a successful year to be honest.
Posted on 3/4/22 at 12:17 pm to Chadaristic
He isn't wrong, but I also can't blame a relatively inexperienced coach too much for having a blind spot regarding leadership when he has multiple upperclassman starters. Yeah some of it is on Oats, but most of it is on Shack, Quinerly, and Ellis for being unwilling or unable to take ownership of the team. It goes without saying that if you're an upperclassman on a college basketball team part of your role is to hold your teammates accountable.
This post was edited on 3/4/22 at 12:21 pm
Posted on 3/4/22 at 12:20 pm to Crede15
More so I guess maybe in the sense that it hasn’t been that enjoyable a good bit of the time and to go out with a dud but get hot in the tourney if that’d be worth it or not. 1st round loss or elite 8, won’t be shocked either way.
If it was a Sweet 16 run would the feeling of a success still be there?
If it was a Sweet 16 run would the feeling of a success still be there?
This post was edited on 3/4/22 at 12:21 pm
Posted on 3/4/22 at 12:21 pm to Crede15
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I'm not sure I even understand the argument against that being a successful year to be honest.
I only know of one person who would deem that outcome to the season a failure, and fortunately he hasn't been shitting all over this thread anytime lately. Hopefully because he's banned.
Posted on 3/4/22 at 12:23 pm to TrojanTide
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If it was a Sweet 16 run would the feeling of a success still be there?
Absolutely. If this team is still alive after the first weekend, especially after how infuriating the regular season has been, I'd consider it a huge success and a ton of positive momentum going forward.
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