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Posted on 1/6/22 at 11:25 am to Crede15
Posted on 1/6/22 at 11:25 am to Crede15
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(I know this isn’t really the thread for this, but there is an Arkansas fan on here, and I’m not venturing over to the Rant for something like this).
This is technically an Alabama basketball thread, but all college basketball talk is encouraged as far as I am concerned, especially when it relates to the SEC.
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Posted on 1/6/22 at 11:26 am to SummerOfGeorge
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- We are much better finishers this year than last - makes sense, Herb was great but a terrible finisher and Shack wasn't very good either. And they both attempted it a ton. Ellis, JD, JQ are all very good at the rim and our bigs are near automatic.
- We are a much better transition team this year than last, but we do it less often. We're horrid when we get slowed down and have to play in the half court.
This all makes sense. We aren't causing as much defensive chaos without Herb and Petty, so while we're better in transition we don't get as many opportunities due to lack of turnovers forced. We really need to figure something out in our half court offense. JD being so awful in terms of defense and ball security that he's borderline unplayable at times has been a killer in that respect, because when he's not turning it over he's easily the most skilled facilitator on the team.
Posted on 1/6/22 at 11:28 am to Robot Santa
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This all makes sense. We aren't causing as much defensive chaos without Herb and Petty, so while we're better in transition we don't get as many opportunities due to lack of turnovers forced.
I think that was one of the most encouraging things about last night - the amount of hands we got on balls defensively. That was the highest defensive turnover rate we've had all season and was Florida's highest offensive turnover rate of the season.
Definitely not a coincidence that we played faster and got more transition looks.
Posted on 1/6/22 at 11:29 am to Skybox_rtr
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15. Rylan Griffen - CG - BAMA
I think this kid is going to end up being a monster in our system. He's basically Shack if Shack was 3 inches taller and a high level athlete.
Posted on 1/6/22 at 11:31 am to Robot Santa
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He's basically Shack if Shack was 3 inches taller and a high level athlete.
Hey, we solved Shack's NBA weaknesses!
Posted on 1/6/22 at 11:32 am to Skybox_rtr
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nobody checks the recruiting board now that we're past NSD
Posted on 1/6/22 at 11:34 am to Chadaristic
Lol I know you do Chad, but we're averaging like a post a week, so I felt the need to do more effective marketing.
Posted on 1/6/22 at 11:38 am to Robot Santa
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I think this kid is going to end up being a monster in our system. He's basically Shack if Shack was 3 inches taller and a high level athlete.
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Hey, we solved Shack's NBA weaknesses!
Yeah I think Shack has been huge for the program and we truly wouldn't be where we are without him. But...I think our non ball-handling guards really have to been longer and more athletic to be able to really run Oats' system to it's max potential. I think the Keon Ellises and Joshua Primos of the world are more what he's looking for in those spots and I think our recruiting since Oats' first year kind of shows that.
This post was edited on 1/6/22 at 11:41 am
Posted on 1/6/22 at 11:40 am to TrojanTide
quote:I'm glad somebody is, because I damn sure ain't! That 7 ft. transfer is gonna destroy us in the paint if we can't get him in QUICK foul trouble.
My body is ready for the Auburn game in coleman next tuesday
I despise them and their coach, but right now they're probably one of the 1-3 best teams in the country....it is what it is.
Posted on 1/6/22 at 11:40 am to Skybox_rtr
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Yeah I think Shack has been huge for the program. We wouldn't be where we are without him, but I think our non ball-handling guards and wings really have to been longer and more athletic to be able to really run Oats' system to it's max potential. I think the Keon Ellises and Joshua Primos of the world are more what he's looking for in those spots and I think our recruiting since Oats' first year kind of shows that.
Yep - pretty clear Shack never would have been on Oats' radar as a recruit. Just doesn't fit the prototype.
Doesn't mean he hasn't been a great player. Javier Arenas was an all-time great Bammer under Saban and there is zero chance Saban would have recruited him.
Posted on 1/6/22 at 11:47 am to SummerOfGeorge
quote:Yup totally agree. Sometimes great players just don't fit the profile of what a coach is looking for in that position relative to the system, but that takes nothing away from the player's legacy. I do believe it shows the quality of said coach those to adjust to that player's strengths and weaknesses and also gives hope for how talented a team can be if they do find the players to best fit their preferred system.
Yep - pretty clear Shack never would have been on Oats' radar as a recruit. Just doesn't fit the prototype.
Doesn't mean he hasn't been a great player. Javier Arenas was an all-time great Bammer under Saban and there is zero chance Saban would have recruited him.
I think Bediako will prove to be one of those as well by the time he's done here. Or he'll develop so well in the areas he's lacking in for our system that he exceeds all of our expectations. Bediako's limitations aren't physical, that's why he can still change the story. It isn't Shacks fault he's probably generously 6'3" and not particularly athletic (for major CBB standards), that's just genetics.
This post was edited on 1/6/22 at 11:56 am
Posted on 1/6/22 at 11:50 am to Bryant91092
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Having the trophy presentation at half of the basketball game is so dumb. If you want to do a trophy presentation, do it after the iron bowl itself.
Absolutely agree. And in many years, many of the good corporate and big donor seats go empty after halftime. Both Alabama and Auburn really need to change this way outdated tradition. All those Big 10 rivalries and Army/ Navy do it right after the football game.
Posted on 1/6/22 at 11:55 am to AbSnopes
Well you guys may not like it but if we win it all the night previous, the place will be electric for the presentation.
But yea, you guys go buy a coke.
But yea, you guys go buy a coke.
Posted on 1/6/22 at 12:02 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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I think that was one of the most encouraging things about last night - the amount of hands we got on balls defensively. That was the highest defensive turnover rate we've had all season and was Florida's highest offensive turnover rate of the season
The SEC is in much, much better shape today than it was 5 years ago, but conference play is still a good opportunity to get right on defense. The talent level is waaaaay better than it used to be, but there's a lot of questionable offensive coaching in this league. Even among its better coaches.
Posted on 1/6/22 at 12:08 pm to Robot Santa
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The SEC is in much, much better shape today than it was 5 years ago, but conference play is still a good opportunity to get right on defense. The talent level is waaaaay better than it used to be, but there's a lot of questionable offensive coaching in this league. Even among its better coaches.
Opposing Offenses (already played in bold) (PPP against Bama)
#3 Gonzaga (1.02)
#5 Baylor
#6 Houston (1.17)
#7 South Dakota State (1.09)
#18 Kentucky
#18 Kentucky
#19 Davidson (1.19)
#24 Miami (0.90)
#26 Auburn
#26 Auburn
#33 Mississippi State
#33 Mississippi State
#44 Memphis (1.21)
#52 Louisiana Tech (0.89)
#59 Arkansas
#57 Florida (0.98)
#66 Drake (0.96)
#72 Tennessee (0.92)
#90 Oakland (0.83)
#94 Texas A&M
#96 Iona (0.96)
#108 South Alabama (0.84)
#110 Jacksonville State (0.92)
#125 Georgia
#142 LSU
#142 LSU
#153 Vanderbilt
#232 Ole Miss
#243 South Carolina
#299 Missouri
#299 Missouri
We have 8 games left against teams whose offenses are worse than ANY offense we've played to date
This post was edited on 1/6/22 at 12:12 pm
Posted on 1/6/22 at 12:19 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Makes those Davidson and Memphis games look even worse when you see it like that. You remove those two games and we're probably viewed as a top 5 team at this point. Lets hope those letdowns were the kick in the pants we needed to park the second half of the season. Yesterday was an encouraging push in that direction.
This post was edited on 1/6/22 at 12:19 pm
Posted on 1/6/22 at 12:24 pm to Skybox_rtr
We have the best win in the country. CBB media has a new unbeatable team every couple of weeks. Let it play out, we’ll be a 4 seed at the absolute worst and JD will be a millionaire by July.
Posted on 1/6/22 at 12:24 pm to Skybox_rtr
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Makes those Davidson and Memphis games look even worse when you see it like that. You remove those two games and we're probably viewed as a top 5 team at this point. Lets hope those letdowns were the kick in the pants we needed to park the second half of the season. Yesterday was an encouraging push in that direction.
Yep - Davidson is the one that really sticks with me. Memphis was kind of predictable - if they came out and played balls to the wall you could see us losing that one coming off of Houston/Gonzaga.
Davidson we just should have won the game. We came out without any intensity, didn't respect them and then tried to frantically get back into the game (which we did) but came up just short. If we'd come out focused and ready to play we win that game by 10. But it's a long season and it happens.
Finding a way to win that Tennessee game was massive.
This post was edited on 1/6/22 at 12:25 pm
Posted on 1/6/22 at 12:34 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Mixed bag against the elite offenses we have faced and consistently good against anyone who is less than elite. The schedule has probably made us look a lot worse than we actually are on defense. Aside from Memphis, Houston, and Davidson we have played good defense all year.
Posted on 1/6/22 at 12:42 pm to SummerOfGeorge
quote:I truly do not understand why you care about JDs NBA draft prospects so much. Did you make a bet on that too? I want him to succeed as much as the next guy, but I feel like you care more about arguing about his NBA draft ranking than you do about the current production he’s having for our team.
JD will be a millionaire by July.
quote:Totally agree with all of that.
Yep - Davidson is the one that really sticks with me. Memphis was kind of predictable - if they came out and played balls to the wall you could see us losing that one coming off of Houston/Gonzaga. Davidson we just should have won the game. We came out without any intensity, didn't respect them and then tried to frantically get back into the game (which we did) but came up just short. If we'd come out focused and ready to play we win that game by 10. But it's a long season and it happens. Finding a way to win that Tennessee game was massive.
Memphis was predictable considering the point in our season and the point in theirs on top of being a road game. It happens.
As for Davidson, yeah no doubt they hit some shots they probably shouldn’t have, but our defensive intensity and just overall intensity was so lacking in that game. And they’re built as a team to take advantage of defensive mistakes, so not that surprising they did. The last minute team replacement didn’t help either, but that’s not an excuse. Bad loss.
I honestly thought after Tennessee lost Chandler and Fullerton, they’d come in playing tougher and grittier to prove they’re more than just those guys and they sure did. Without Gurley, that’s probably a 15+ pt loss. Tough, tough win and so needed. I think the Florida game was the continuation of the maturing we did the 2nd half of that UT game.
This post was edited on 1/6/22 at 12:46 pm
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