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Posted on 12/30/21 at 3:56 pm to
Posted by Joka2kold
Member since Nov 2019
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Posted on 12/30/21 at 3:56 pm to
Well let's combat that and like maybe switch ROLES with him and JQ!
Posted by Joka2kold
Member since Nov 2019
6151 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 4:00 pm to
I think JD does but he differs too much to OLDER GUYS. When the game was on the line and he got the rebound late in the game shoot JD could of passed the ball to Keon but he didn't because he's not scared of the moment.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
16164 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 4:02 pm to
Go back and look at Colin Sexton and Kira Lewis' first conference game.

Colin
3-12 FG, 1-6 3PT, 3 Turnovers, 1 steal

Kira
4-14 FG, 2-6 3PT, 4 Turnovers, 0 steals

Not as craptastic as the numbers JD put up last night but nowhere near what you'd think guys that were 2 months from going first round would do.

By the time conference play starts, teams are getting a feel for players and adjust defenses accordingly. There's also the grind of going from being the best and often biggest on the floor to getting beat around by guys bigger and nearly as good as you.

Kira and Colin adjusted just fine. I suspect JD will too.
This post was edited on 12/30/21 at 4:13 pm
Posted by Allthatfades
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2014
9323 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 4:04 pm to
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Right now, JD is a 2 year player in my eyes

No way. NBA draft is more about potential than performance, as evidenced by Primo
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105802 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 4:06 pm to
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He also has a gw putback dunk and block and b2b possessions not too long ago


Those were reaction plays. He's had a few other ones like that where he gets downhill and makes a a great pass on the run (did it 2-3 times last night).

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Timidity is the last of his problems


I think he's overthinking every decision he makes in the half court, which is understandable for a young guy who is going through turnover issues. Happens quite a bit, especially for a guy like him without any real experience running a real offense against other elite athletes. He showed in EYBL he could play with anybody, but those are not structured offense running situations. The level of high school he played means he never really had played offensive team basketball at this level. He's hit some rocky spots and seems clear to me he's playing a step slow overthinking his decisions. It's definitely something I expect him to work through and get more comfortable with.

JMHO
This post was edited on 12/30/21 at 4:08 pm
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 4:07 pm to
We just gotta start hitting our 3's!

- Jackie Moon
Posted by Joka2kold
Member since Nov 2019
6151 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 4:10 pm to
Most definitely need to do that!
This post was edited on 12/30/21 at 4:11 pm
Posted by IRobbedMyMom
Member since Aug 2019
1004 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 4:20 pm to
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I think we need to start Gurley over Chuck. I like Chuck but he is a lane clogger.
I’d honestly prefer Gary, and not necessarily start but see heavy minutes. And yeah Bediako is a lane clogger is he not?
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
31088 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 4:28 pm to
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If Rojas is anywhere near 90 to 95 percent...you will see the difference with the toughness of this team because he WILL be toughest on the court. He will make plays on both ends of the floor.

You lost it here.
Posted by Skybox_rtr
Atlanta, GA
Member since May 2021
311 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 4:33 pm to
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If you have a confidence stat to back that up then cool. He flourishes in the open court, his skillset isn’t utilized properly when lanes are clogged and the drive and kick is completely shut off. There’s no confidence issue with JD, it’s blasphemous to suggest there is
Not everything in basketball is analytics based. Just look what happened to Markelle Fultz. There aren’t any stats to quantify what happened to his psyche.

Last game was not a utilization issue, their defense double teamed once we got into the lane and he made sloppy kick out and dump down passes once he got there. He also made a couple beautiful passes that were just pure instincts, so that was encouraging. But overall, he was incredibly sloppy with the ball.

I personally think he’ll improve a ton throughout conference play and we’ll need him to to reach our ceiling, but I don’t think it’s outrageous to think he should be a 2-year player if he doesn’t take some steps forward throughout the year. He has plenty he needs to work on, notably reducing his turnovers and improving his shooting and defense. Brandon Boston was a top 7 recruit and supposed to be a surefire stud and barely gets drafted after a lackluster year at Kentucky. Caleb Love needed an extra year at UNC (so far). That’s just guards from last year too.

Current NBA mock drafts mean nothing to scouts (they’re also almost wholly based off preseason potential at this point in the year too) and JD has not shown enough by any means to be picked first round at the moment. He’d probably go 2nd round just off potential, but if you think someone would pick him top 20 right now, you’re wrong. Primo showed he had an NBA-ready shot and played solid defense and so the Spurs thought they could unlock the other parts of his game. JD hasn’t shown an NBA ready skill up to this point. He’d get drafted just based off a team hoping he could develop those in the years to come, but players don’t go first round unless they have some skill that’s NBA-ready. I think we all hope he puts it together and makes the leap, but no need to blast someone for a fair assessment.
This post was edited on 12/30/21 at 4:40 pm
Posted by Alum69
Member since Jan 2021
263 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 5:14 pm to
Herb led the team with 26 against the Cavs Tue.

LINK
This post was edited on 12/30/21 at 5:16 pm
Posted by Joka2kold
Member since Nov 2019
6151 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 6:13 pm to
No, I didn't. He made plays last year. He defended Yves Pons and Tolu Smith last year and did a great job. I think he made big time plays for us on offense when needed sometimes last season. There will be a lot of intangibles Rojas could bring to the table for this team with the main one being EXPERIENCE. If Rojas is near 90-100 percent then all these offensive rebounds we give up will stop because he's going to send people flying out of there. He might get fouls called but I guarantee you that we won't be CHARMIN SOFT.
This post was edited on 12/30/21 at 6:15 pm
Posted by Joka2kold
Member since Nov 2019
6151 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 6:24 pm to
JD would never see the second round. He would be drafted high off POTENTIAL alone that's what a lot of individuals not understanding. Josh Primo is a prime example.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
31088 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 7:02 pm to
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JD would never see the second round. He would be drafted high off POTENTIAL alone that's what a lot of individuals not understanding. Josh Primo is a prime example.

Son, you got a lot to learn about about the game.
Posted by IRobbedMyMom
Member since Aug 2019
1004 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 7:26 pm to
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Son, you got a lot to learn about about the game.
Just because you’re old doesn’t mean you know what you’re saying. JD is a first round lock, regardless of what this board’s opinion at the time is
Posted by Joka2kold
Member since Nov 2019
6151 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 7:29 pm to
I love learning more everyday about the game. You got a lot to learn as well. He's shown flashes here in there of his capabilities. JD is built like a running back and has elite passing ability. We not even gone talk about his 47 inch vertical and long wingspan. I bet you learned a lot about Primo last year too.

I thought about another player comparison for JD.

Ja Morant couldn't really shoot it but he had crazy passing ability and could jump out the gym lol

I don't think he got drafted in the second round!
Posted by mistaken4193
Member since Jan 2017
30373 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 8:55 pm to
Michigan now 7-5. Oats got robbed of NCOTY last year.
Posted by Alabama_Fan
The Road Less Traveled
Member since Sep 2020
16364 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 10:09 pm to
Alabama Women's Basketball Falls to No. 7 Tennessee, 62-44

The Crimson Tide was in a close game entering the fourth, but the Vols proved to be too much in the SEC opener.
Posted by DT55Forever1
Member since Jan 2018
3154 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 10:53 pm to
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 Morant couldn't really shoot it


What? The year he got drafted, he shot 56% from two and 36% from three.
Posted by BigBird09
Member since May 2012
6082 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 11:25 pm to
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What? The year he got drafted, he shot 56% from two and 36% from three.


Not to mention he scored 25 ppg and averaged 10 apg. And the fact that he didn't go until his sophomore year after averaging 13 and 6 his freshman year. I think JD will be a one and done 1st round pick, but that's with some projected improvement. I doubt if he performs at the level he currently has that he will be a first round pick.

I think his biggest issue right now is him deferring to the other guys too much. He's shooting at a remarkable 65% clip from 2 which is unheard of for a guard. He needs to stop looking for everyone else when he drives and look for his own shot. That would solve most of his TO issues by itself.
This post was edited on 12/30/21 at 11:29 pm
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