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re: Tide Football Thread in honor of TidalSurge

Posted on 1/17/24 at 11:41 am to
Posted by tattoo
Fantasy Island
Member since Oct 2017
2040 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 11:41 am to
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Downs let there be a bidding war. If people knew what went on behind the scenes.
Why don't you let us in on it? You can always redact any names that matter to you.
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
51385 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 11:42 am to
Welp, I honestly don’t know what to think. Hard to imagine how we won’t be a 3-4 loss (maybe more) team next year. Hopefully Coach DeBoer can start making some waves on the recruiting trail soon.
This post was edited on 1/17/24 at 11:42 am
Posted by EGO3x
Member since Oct 2023
1674 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 11:51 am to
This is why I was very concerned in hiring DeBoer because this didn't need to be a rebuild but now it's headed that way. We'll see how good he really is.

Even if we hired a young, energetic guy like Lanning, Kiffen or Sark we still might have these departures so maybe it doesn't matter. Seems like NIL is all that matters right now.

It is what it is. We have to be all in on CKD and hope he's the coach we think he is.
This post was edited on 1/17/24 at 11:52 am
Posted by Crimson_Chaos
Alabama
Member since Oct 2023
1488 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 12:16 pm to
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This is why I was very concerned in hiring DeBoer because this didn't need to be a rebuild but now it's headed that way.


I think this happens regardless.

quote:

Even if we hired a young, energetic guy like Lanning, Kiffen or Sark we still might have these departures so maybe it doesn't matter. Seems like NIL is all that matters right now.



Boom. This.

I don't place the blame on CKD. I think he will be a great coach for us... and from what we've seen, he is trying to build a very strong staff around him. This was going to happen regardless. We weather the storm, and rebuild into the post-Saban era.
Posted by Bear88
Member since Oct 2014
14906 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 12:18 pm to
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Even if we hired a young, energetic guy like Lanning, Kiffen or Sark


CKD fits that mold to me
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
13187 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 12:20 pm to
Before the portal players would not have been allowed to transfer out like they can now. So the real question do we want to have players that do not want to be here and play for Deboer or go ahead and get the ball rolling and let him build the roster that works for him with players that want to play for him?
Posted by remaster916
Alabama
Member since Oct 2012
13042 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 12:30 pm to
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So the real question do we want to have players that do not want to be here and play for Deboer or go ahead and get the ball rolling and let him build the roster that works for him with players that want to play for him?


That roster will be far less talented and would not survive the SEC this year.
Posted by Carlton
Forced LANKing made the GOAT Retire
Member since Feb 2016
14761 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 1:56 pm to
Wrong thread.
This post was edited on 1/17/24 at 1:57 pm
Posted by MagillaGuerilla
Nick Fairley Fan Club, Founder
Member since Nov 2009
35729 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 2:51 pm to
A 4th OL from Washington entered the portal, OG Geiren Hatchett. His younger brother, C Landen Hatchett, may also enter. The elder Hatchett split time at RG due to injuries.

He joins LG Nate Kalepo, C Parker Brailsford, and RG Julius Buelow in the portal.

I don't think Buelow is gonna be interested in Bama, as he referred to DeBoer as a "snake" when he left for Bama.
Posted by Joka2kold
Member since Nov 2019
6151 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 2:56 pm to
Hatchett ain't coming. They was sneak dissing to so I don't see them coming.
This post was edited on 1/17/24 at 2:58 pm
Posted by UASports23
Basketball School
Member since Nov 2009
26495 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 3:01 pm to
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Greg Byrne says Nick Saban’s official role in the program is as an advisor.

He confirms that he does now have an office in Bryant-Denny.

He also confirms that Nick has been talking to recruits and current players throughout this process, and that DeBoer is fully embracing this.
Posted by ETT2001
Member since Dec 2020
1102 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 3:16 pm to
Wish that would help with the gutting of the roster and losing our best defensive player
Posted by Crimson_Chaos
Alabama
Member since Oct 2023
1488 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 3:19 pm to
I wouldn't be surprised if Saban told Downs that his best opportunity for development lies elsewhere. I wouldn't expect him to lie to Downs. I don't fault him for it. He has to give transparent and truthful advice. This is how Saban has always interacted with players, and I don't expect it to change. It may suck for us short term, but it is what it is...
Posted by EGO3x
Member since Oct 2023
1674 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 3:28 pm to
That definitely wouldn't happen. Nick wants Alabama to succeed and he wants the players he recruited here to stay here.
Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
In The Ham
Member since Nov 2017
13136 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 3:29 pm to
C'Mon Man
Posted by Carlton
Forced LANKing made the GOAT Retire
Member since Feb 2016
14761 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 3:30 pm to
I wish he would have told him that his best chance for development is in this brand new free E-Class from Dream Motors .
This post was edited on 1/17/24 at 3:31 pm
Posted by MykTide
Member since Jul 2012
26970 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 3:32 pm to
Yikes.
Posted by Crimson_Chaos
Alabama
Member since Oct 2023
1488 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 3:35 pm to
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That definitely wouldn't happen. Nick wants Alabama to succeed and he wants the players he recruited here to stay here.


Nick absolutely wants UA to succeed, but not a the expense of a player's best potential for development... if you don't understand that about Saban, then you are blind.

If he thought Downs' best opportunity for success was UA, he absolutely would recommend staying. If he thought Downs' would reach his full potential somewhere else, Saban would not lie to him and would give his the curtesy of the truth. It's not different than Saban being honest with players about playing time. Downvote all you want, but Saban is a transparent person who looks out for his player's best interests.
Posted by Carlton
Forced LANKing made the GOAT Retire
Member since Feb 2016
14761 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 3:37 pm to
Unless we have a DB Coach Saban couldn't answer that question. No one has better resources than Bama, the rest is up to coaching.
This post was edited on 1/17/24 at 3:38 pm
Posted by Crimson_Chaos
Alabama
Member since Oct 2023
1488 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 3:37 pm to
So you don't think Saban and Downs had a discussion about the new DB coach last night... before Downs decided to enter the portal?
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