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re: The Chemistry Isn’t Right

Posted on 9/13/21 at 11:16 pm to
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
18162 posts
Posted on 9/13/21 at 11:16 pm to
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The OP reminds me of that Crimson Clover troll. Whatever happened to that shitbag ? Hmmmm

I'm not super excited he chose a name so close to my own.

He's on the edge of being the new DD4Bama with his "realistic" (pessimistic) shtick. If it is DD, hope he is enjoying an Army retirement, but i also hope he figures out how to enjoy things for what they are. Yes, the glass can sometimes be half empty, but it is equally likely to be half full based on perspective. And, in either case, there isn't a water shortage, so we can always fill the damn thing back up if needed.
Posted by ArmyTide
Member since Aug 2021
77 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 12:13 am to
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He's on the edge of being the new DD4Bama with his "realistic" (pessimistic) shtick.

On the contrary. I’m more optimistic than most people on this board in terms of my season predictions.
The problem this board has is they act like you’re criticizing their own son when you talk about a player who isn’t impressing, or should be passed on the depth chart.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11833 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 9:10 am to
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The problem this board has is they act like you’re criticizing their own son when you talk about a player who isn’t impressing, or should be passed on the depth chart.


Nah you are no different than many that have been spoiled and have unrealistic expectations of a team that has to reload and developed into a contender.

Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 9:24 am to
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The problem this board has is they act like you’re criticizing their own son when you talk about a player who isn’t impressing, or should be passed on the depth chart.

Or maybe they think you're overreactive.

What changed for Tide offense from 1st to 2nd game? (AL.com)



Bryce Young: Tide wasn’t sharp, not proud of game film (AL.com) Bryce Young didn't mince words Monday when looking back at Alabama's second game of the 2021 season.

This post was edited on 9/14/21 at 10:44 am
Posted by UASports23
Member since Nov 2009
24345 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 9:28 am to
Have we fired Saban yet? Just wanted to check.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 9:42 am to
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expectations of a team that has to reload and developed into a contender.



Ya this appears to be the issue - if next years team came out looking like this, I would be more surprised/concerned.

But on offense, we don't have a single position group that returned significant major starters / contribution from last year remaining plus a new OC.

Next month will be a great opportunity to grow under pressure and develop an identity though.
This post was edited on 9/14/21 at 10:19 am
Posted by CrimsonBoz
Member since Sep 2014
16977 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 9:44 am to
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The problem this board has is they act like you’re criticizing their own son when you talk about a player who isn’t impressing, or should be passed on the depth chart.


The problem is people are creating fake stats to support their BS argument e.g. Slade Bolton. Who is a kid who has worked his arse off, never been in trouble, and would die for his teammates. I wish we had a 100 of him. All the while people are saying others should start over him like our coaches are stupid.

Edit: to add I am not saying the coaches are infallible, the Cade Foster thing is still a mystery.
This post was edited on 9/14/21 at 9:47 am
Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
In The Ham
Member since Nov 2017
11659 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 10:03 am to
You have to be careful because the Bama Sunshine Crew wear those Bama shades 24/7/365
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37592 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 10:13 am to
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The problem is people are creating fake stats to support their BS argument e.g. Slade Bolton. Who is a kid who has worked his arse off, never been in trouble, and would die for his teammates. I wish we had a 100 of him. All the while people are saying others should start over him like our coaches are stupid.


Where is the narrative that Bolden is a liability coming from? The guy is sure handed, clutch, blocks, and always executes his assignments. Of course, he isn't an explosive playmaker like Smith, Waddle, or Williamson but he is solid and dependable which is why he is in there.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11833 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 10:18 am to
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Where is the narrative that Bolden is a liability coming from? The guy is sure handed, clutch, blocks, and always executes his assignments. Of course, he isn't an explosive playmaker like Smith, Waddle, or Williamson but he is solid and dependable which is why he is in there.


Because we have spoiled fans who have set the bar with unrealistic expectations. Every time a player has a season like Smith, Jones, Harris, or whoever we have fans that now expect that to the be norm in that position. Any player that can not perform in the same manner needs to be cut in their eyes.
Posted by CrimsonBoz
Member since Sep 2014
16977 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 10:23 am to
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The problem is people are creating fake stats to support their BS argument e.g. Slade Bolton. Who is a kid who has worked his arse off, never been in trouble, and would die for his teammates. I wish we had a 100 of him. All the while people are saying others should start over him like our coaches are stupid.


Where is the narrative that Bolden is a liability coming from? The guy is sure handed, clutch, blocks, and always executes his assignments. Of course, he isn't an explosive playmaker like Smith, Waddle, or Williamson but he is solid and dependable which is why he is in there.


He had a fumble last year and now he sucks this year. It’s a weird deal on that.
Posted by RollTide33
Member since Sep 2019
2736 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 10:41 am to
Slade is Hunter Renfrow. And there's nothing wrong with that.
Posted by ArmyTide
Member since Aug 2021
77 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 10:44 am to
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He is a kid who has worked his arse off, never been in trouble, and would die for his teammates.

Is Slade Bolden your son?

You could throw out these empty platitudes for 95% of the players on this roster, including a lot of guys who will never get a moment of playing time, so what makes Slade Bolden so special to you?
This post was edited on 9/14/21 at 11:07 am
Posted by ArmyTide
Member since Aug 2021
77 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 10:46 am to
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Slade is Hunter Renfrow. And there's nothing wrong with that.

You're retarded if you think Slade Bolden is as good as Hunter Renfrow. Hunter Renfrow tore our arse up multiple times, and is currently tearing it up in the NFL. Slade Bolden, if he gets drafted, will never play a meaningful down in the NFL, and I'd be willing to bet $100 that Slade Bolden doesn't even get drafted.
This post was edited on 9/14/21 at 11:01 am
Posted by RollTide33
Member since Sep 2019
2736 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 11:18 am to
Renfrow is tearing it up in the NFL? He's averaging around 600 yards and 3 tds a season so far. Which is basically what he did in college. Bama fans have a biased memory of just how good he was because he showed out when they played us. Based on his production and measurables there's no way he should have been drafted in the 5th round. He should have been an UDFA at best.
Posted by eric4UA08
Member since Nov 2008
2016 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 11:18 am to
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Where is the narrative that Bolden is a liability coming from? The guy is sure handed, clutch, blocks, and always executes his assignments. Of course, he isn't an explosive playmaker like Smith, Waddle, or Williamson but he is solid and dependable which is why he is in there.


I don’t have a problem with Slade in the fact that he seems like a great teammate and the guys love him. So I’ve got no problem with him seeing the field some. I’d certainly rather see more explosive players on the field in at least in early down situations. I definitely agree he’s a dependable blocker. What baffles me is how he keeps getting described as “sure handed” and “clutch” I feel like he has done nothing to prove either one of those. All that said, I’m not losing any sleep because he’s seeing playing time. We’ve obviously had far worse contributors than Slade Bolden before.

As far as the team “not having chemistry”, how, after 14 years do we still have people panicking after a 2-0 start? Let it sink in that some Bama fans still don’t trust the process…. Amazing.
Posted by Sauron
Birmingham
Member since Dec 2015
994 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 11:27 am to
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You're retarded if you think Slade Bolden is as good as Hunter Renfrow.


I agree Slade isn't the same player as Hunter Renfrow (although I might have phrased that differently).

However, it should be blatantly clear by this point to anyone with six functioning brain cells that Saban values knowing what to do on any given play over athletic ability. Obviously the preference is to have both, but if he has to choose, he chooses knowledge over talent.

Is Slade a better receiver than, say, Christian Leary? We don't know at this point. What we DO know, though, is based on the parameters Saban has established for more than a decade at Alabama, Slade is a better option at this point than others.

Why this is so difficult for people to understand is beyond me. Folks want to point to highlight reels, or plays from a spring game, and say "But muh talent!" When, as has been proven time and time again, talent isn't the main factor in who starts and plays on Saturdays.

And honestly, Saban's track record with this approach at Alabama is pretty difficult to argue.
Posted by CrimsonBoz
Member since Sep 2014
16977 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 1:35 pm to
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He is a kid who has worked his arse off, never been in trouble, and would die for his teammates.

Is Slade Bolden your son?

You could throw out these empty platitudes for 95% of the players on this roster, including a lot of guys who will never get a moment of playing time, so what makes Slade Bolden so special to you?


No he is not my child however, my point is, he is being played because he is doing what the coaches want apparently. Again this false narrative he cannot hang on to the ball etc is totally BS. Even the Renfro thing is over inflated. People just need to relax and let these young players develop instead of throwing them in a situation where they will fail and it kill their confidence moving forward. If you ever pay attention to Saban he tries to bring kids along with experience and time unless you are some freak of nature like Smith, Anderson, Minkah etc. in a perfect world you want the player to slowly come up.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 1:39 pm to
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However, it should be blatantly clear by this point to anyone with six functioning brain cells that Saban values knowing what to do on any given play over athletic ability. Obviously the preference is to have both, but if he has to choose, he chooses knowledge over talent.

Is Slade a better receiver than, say, Christian Leary? We don't know at this point. What we DO know, though, is based on the parameters Saban has established for more than a decade at Alabama, Slade is a better option at this point than others.

Why this is so difficult for people to understand is beyond me. Folks want to point to highlight reels, or plays from a spring game, and say "But muh talent!" When, as has been proven time and time again, talent isn't the main factor in who starts and plays on Saturdays.



It's amazing this still has to be said 14 years into his tenure, but here we are with all the armchair experts thinking they know better than the man that has won 6 national championships since arriving on campus.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15712 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 2:14 pm to
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When coach finally hangs it up you are gonna be in for a very rude awakening. My goodness.


Those not old enough to have been an adult during the saga of the 3 Mikes or, for that matter, even the Perkins and Curry eras have no idea what they're watching. It's going to be a hard fall.
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