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re: Steele is what he is. We're gonna play simple stuff and play fast.

Posted on 2/6/23 at 7:03 pm to
Posted by Tupelo
Member since Aug 2022
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Posted on 2/6/23 at 7:03 pm to
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I just don't see why Steele would give up a DC job with Miami to come here if he is only a 1 or 2 year placeholder.

The state of Alabama is his home.


I read that his daughter confirmed to someone that he was trying to move back to Alabama.
Posted by cajunbama
Metairie
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 2/6/23 at 7:21 pm to
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We're gonna play simple stuff and play fast.


Posted by Alfie Solomons
Alabama
Member since Aug 2020
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Posted on 2/6/23 at 7:39 pm to
How does no one else remember when Bama fans thought it was hilarious when Auburn hired Steele.

Now it’s the best thing ever.
This post was edited on 2/6/23 at 7:40 pm
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
5913 posts
Posted on 2/6/23 at 7:44 pm to
He proceeded to do a pretty damn good job there. I dunno man. I am mature enough to change my opinions when new information dictates it.
Posted by Alfie Solomons
Alabama
Member since Aug 2020
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Posted on 2/6/23 at 7:48 pm to
Are you mature enough to admit the reason you think he is great now is because Saban hired him? If Kiffin would have hired him we would all be laughing again.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 2/6/23 at 7:48 pm to
His time at Auburn is why I am withholding judgement. He’s been average to bad in his other stops but was superb at Auburn.

His defenses are what kept Gus from getting fired years earlier.

I have no idea which Steele is coming to Tuscaloosa.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 2/6/23 at 7:49 pm to
He was actually pretty good at Clemson his first 2 seasons (Top 20 defenses) back when they were a borderline Top 25 recruiting program. His last year there wasn't great and was capped with the infamous WVU game.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 2/6/23 at 7:50 pm to
Yeah I mean how are fan reactions when he was hired relevant at all to the matter at hand considering he coached really good defenses at AU. That's the main reason many of us are hopeful, because of what he did at AU.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 2/6/23 at 7:50 pm to
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Are you mature enough to admit the reason you think he is great now is because Saban hired him? If Kiffin would have hired him we would all be laughing again.


And he'd be bad at Ole Miss because Ole Miss doesn't have good players.

He isn't a super schemer who is going to do magical stuff to cover up for physical deficiencies. What he does do is teach guys core things and have them do it fast and without thinking. That doesn't work with crappy players. It can work with elite players.
Posted by Alfie Solomons
Alabama
Member since Aug 2020
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Posted on 2/6/23 at 8:01 pm to
SOG,

I respect you man, and I always appreciate your evaluations, and you know way more than I do, but I have a terrible feeling about this duo.

The superior talent argument doesn’t convince me, it’s not like Pete and BOB had a lack of talent the last two seasons.

I foresee low scoring offense and average defense.

Teams that shouldn’t will make games real close this season, and eventually I think it’s going to catch us when it shouldn’t
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 2/6/23 at 8:03 pm to
I feel ya, and that is certainly possible here Alfie. This is not without risk and not how I would have gone.
This post was edited on 2/6/23 at 8:04 pm
Posted by RollTide33
Member since Sep 2019
2776 posts
Posted on 2/6/23 at 9:28 pm to
I'll tell you what I bet we won't see from a Steele defense. 12 men on the field after a timeout.
Posted by cajunbama
Metairie
Member since Jan 2007
30949 posts
Posted on 2/6/23 at 10:22 pm to
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How does no one else remember when Bama fans thought it was hilarious when Auburn hired Steele. Now it’s the best thing ever.



I don’t think it’s the best thing ever, or the worst thing.

I was because of the simple and fast comment.
This post was edited on 2/6/23 at 10:55 pm
Posted by Bear88
Member since Oct 2014
13233 posts
Posted on 2/6/23 at 10:29 pm to
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foresee low scoring offense and average defense.


I hope not but if that turns out to be true, I will be willing to bet that it is because we are losing over half the defense and a heisman winning QB and not so much on coaching . I don’t think we will avg 41 ppg and am damn glad BOB is gone
This post was edited on 2/6/23 at 11:32 pm
Posted by Rip N Lip
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Member since Jul 2019
5227 posts
Posted on 2/6/23 at 11:09 pm to
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He got fired with Pruitt. His star anywhere outside of Knoxville faded a long time ago.



That’s not what I said.

Do you think the NCAA is willing to burn Phillip Fulmer? Their top informant for decades?

ETA: Do you think UT is willing to burn Fulmer to hang Pruitt?

The point is that Fulmer will be implicated at some point if the focus is solely on Pruitt,and his show cause is ridiculous.

To compare Pruitt to any case involving basketball where the FBI was literally involved is beyond uninformed. The FBI is the only reason the NCAA even acted on Wade and Person.

Growing weary of some of the BAMA “fanbase”.
This post was edited on 2/6/23 at 11:23 pm
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 2/7/23 at 6:56 pm to
Posted by tattoo
Fantasy Island
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 2/7/23 at 9:20 pm to
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Are you mature enough to admit the reason you think he is great now is because Saban hired him?
You are wrong again. The reason many of us changed our mind is because Steele did a great job at AU. Are you mature enough to admit that you do not know our motives and that the alternative I just suggested is not only plausible but true for many of us?

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If Kiffin would have hired him we would all be laughing again.

You might be laughing but many Alabama fans would not be. Afraid of Steele with OM talent, no, but respect the hire, yes.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15712 posts
Posted on 2/7/23 at 9:45 pm to
Fulmer hasn’t been relevant for past 15 years now. The people at the NCAA have rolled over many times since he was their guy.

If you think the current NCAA gives a rip about a guy who helped them at the turn of the century and is already at a point where he’ll never be in big time athletics again, that’s your issue to resolve. Whatever they do with JP won’t for one second be influenced by any potential impact on Fat Phil.
This post was edited on 2/7/23 at 9:46 pm
Posted by tattoo
Fantasy Island
Member since Oct 2017
1805 posts
Posted on 2/7/23 at 9:59 pm to
You ignore the fact that the Steele and Rees hires indicate a return to a much more physical brand of football. Something that will remedy the more important issue regarding Alabama football recently - the physical, mental and psychological softness that had seeped in and now permeates the program. Saban has apparently now addressed that issue. Maybe more needs to be done.

That has been the primary difference between Bama and UGA the last 2 years. Bama has had equal talent and coaching, in fact, better coaching overall with Saban over Smart. But UGA is now tougher and meaner than Alabama. That needs to change.

One reason many suspect that you might be a troll is that you ignore these things and ALWAYS, WITHOUT EXCEPTION double down on your pessimistic takes. You show some intelligence when you want to make a point rather than the dumb ignorance you do otherwise.

But giving you the benefit of the doubt, know this: Fewer points will not mean a less effective offense. Points per possession is much more indicative of an offense's effectiveness. And if things go well next year there will be fewer possession per game which will help the defense while the O will not have as many chances to score. And if Bama regains its toughness it will handle close games much better than now.

You knew UT and LSU were not only in doubt but Bama was going to lose because Bama was weak and wimpy (I shudder saying it) and because UT and LSU wanted it more - they just jerked the game out of the hands of the little rag doll, Alabama. Those games were shameful not because Bama was out schemed but because Alabama wilted. That's why Kelly went for two - it was like taking candy from the Bama baby. Alabama was cooked.

Alabama needs to knock somebody's jock off early in 2023, then keep on like Glenn Coffee and Roy Upchurch and Ingram and Javy and Rolando McClain and Mark Barron in 08 & 09. Then their skill and finesse will become more effective.
Posted by Section 80
Member since Apr 2013
797 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 6:46 am to
Great post Tattoo


This last recruiting class reminds me of the '08 recruiting class, a culture changing class that will turn around the program.



Caleb Downs, Justice Haynes, Kayden Proctor, Keon Keely, Ricks, Pierre, Smith, Russaw, Renaud, Hurley and Hale ... came to Bama to win a National Championship

Pair that class with Alexander, Campbell, Simpson, Pritchett, Booker, Bond, Oatis, Murphy and Miller

Plus the 2021 class of Latham, Kool-Aid, Turner, Payne, Brooks, Arnold and Lawson are all hungry for a ring, Bama has a great shot to win it all in 2023

Then you have the glue guys like Seth at Center, Jase and Roydell at RB, Outz at TE, Tim Smith on the DL, Braswell at OLB and Malachi Moore at DB


This post was edited on 2/8/23 at 7:01 am
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