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re: State of our OL
Posted on 10/26/21 at 2:43 pm to MagillaGuerilla
Posted on 10/26/21 at 2:43 pm to MagillaGuerilla
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He was hired 9 days before NSD 2021, that OL class was already signed.
This current OL class
4* OT Tyler Booker 6-5/325
3* OT Dayne Shor 6-6/325
4* OT Elijah Pritchett 6-6/280
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Posted on 10/26/21 at 7:42 pm to tider04
I get the frustration but it's not as bad as you think, yet not as good as we would expect with our talent at o-line. As good as we are, there does seem to feel like something is just "off" about our offense this season though.
At times there feels like there is no rhythm at all in the play calling but for the most part Bryce has bailed us out with his athletic ability and decision making. I've never seen Saban do anything like he did with Bryce with whatever conversation he had with him on the sideline Saturday night. Then just prior to that BOB was heated in the press box. Saying all of this, I am the type of person that over analyzes everything, and it could be nothing.
We have the talent to give any team this year a run for their money if we play like we have shown we are capable of. We just seem to be our own worst enemy for stretches of games which is to be expected with all of the new pieces on offense.
At times there feels like there is no rhythm at all in the play calling but for the most part Bryce has bailed us out with his athletic ability and decision making. I've never seen Saban do anything like he did with Bryce with whatever conversation he had with him on the sideline Saturday night. Then just prior to that BOB was heated in the press box. Saying all of this, I am the type of person that over analyzes everything, and it could be nothing.
We have the talent to give any team this year a run for their money if we play like we have shown we are capable of. We just seem to be our own worst enemy for stretches of games which is to be expected with all of the new pieces on offense.
This post was edited on 10/26/21 at 8:13 pm
Posted on 10/26/21 at 7:53 pm to Brostache48
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There is starting to be some chatter about BOB rubbing the players the wrong way with his coaching style.
link??
Posted on 10/26/21 at 8:01 pm to Funky Tide 8
I don't have a link
This post was edited on 10/26/21 at 8:13 pm
Posted on 10/26/21 at 8:11 pm to Funky Tide 8
Guess I should edit that out because it's really just speculation. But it's not really out of the realm of possibility, seems like he isn't very liked anywhere he's coached
Posted on 10/26/21 at 9:34 pm to Brostache48
BOB and Marrone doing great. Dalcourt and Owens are average, it’s not the coaching. Wake up
Posted on 10/26/21 at 9:40 pm to BamalaAnderson
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Marrone doing great.
I would like to see him develop somebody before we say he is doing great. Not really sure by what measure he is performing "great" at this point.
Posted on 10/26/21 at 9:45 pm to BamalaAnderson
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BOB and Marrone doing great. Dalcourt and Owens are average, it’s not the coaching. Wake up
Wake up? Do you even know what you're watching?
How is Marrone doing great when he hasn't developed one of the many highly recruited kids (Kight, Pierce, Latham, Brockmeyer, etc) for RT?
How is BOB doing great when we're basically depending on our QB to make something out of with minimal creativity pre-snap and predictability after the snap?
Posted on 10/26/21 at 9:49 pm to YStar
Marrone definitely deserves some criticism for how the o-line has performed. I don't know that BOB deserves the same. He has to get some credit for the 2nd best offense averaging 45+ points per game.
Posted on 10/26/21 at 10:15 pm to RollTide33
I can see giving BOB a pass for now even though I’m underwhelmed with his play calling and lack of creativity on offense. I sort of feel like Young improvising and BRob playing like a mad man are more responsible for the 46 ppg than anything on the play sheet.
That said, Marrone gets no such pass. He has done diddly to develop a solution at RT or center. He gets an F.
That said, Marrone gets no such pass. He has done diddly to develop a solution at RT or center. He gets an F.
Posted on 10/27/21 at 8:36 am to BamaReb
quote:In another post on this thread I called it physicality, or lack of a mean streak. Personally, I believe it's impossible to be a good Olineman without one (while on the field at least).
I've got a question for some of you guys with more OL knowledge. Why don't our OL block until the whistle? There seems to be an initial effort and then a lot of standing and looking. We don't seem to have anyone with that Landon attitude of still looking to take someone's head off. Coaching??
The LOS is basically hand-to-hand combat, and if/when you make your opponent doubt their ability to beat you, you've won 90% of the battle.
Posted on 10/27/21 at 8:46 am to coachcrisp
-- Left tackle Evan Neal was asked about the scrambling abilities of quarterback Bryce Young. “At some point when he takes off, I’m kinda just left watching because I’m like ‘alright, what am I supposed to do, I don’t want to hold the guy.’ Kinda exciting man. He kinda surprised me, I didn’t know he was that shifty, so he kinda surprised me.”
-- Neal also touched on the communication on a talented but rebuilt offensive line. He said that group “definitely came a long way” with room to improve. “So I feel like as the season progresses, we are progressively getting better from a communication standpoint,” Neal said. “I feel like we’re getting better in that area too. We just need to make sure we’re all on the same page.”
So they are getting better Neal tells us.
-- Neal also touched on the communication on a talented but rebuilt offensive line. He said that group “definitely came a long way” with room to improve. “So I feel like as the season progresses, we are progressively getting better from a communication standpoint,” Neal said. “I feel like we’re getting better in that area too. We just need to make sure we’re all on the same page.”
So they are getting better Neal tells us.
Posted on 10/27/21 at 9:19 am to JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
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“At some point when he takes off, I’m kinda just left watching because I’m like ‘alright, what am I supposed to do, I don’t want to hold the guy.’ Kinda exciting man. He kinda surprised me, I didn’t know he was that shifty, so he kinda surprised me.”
When a QB scrambles about the only thing an Olineman can do is to try to get in between his man and the QB without using his hands.
Posted on 10/27/21 at 9:56 am to coachcrisp
DBs means drop backs
Posted on 10/27/21 at 10:45 am to JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
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So they are getting better Neal tells us
Not a knock on you, but not sure Evan would say anything different publicly.
Posted on 10/27/21 at 10:55 am to Brostache48
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Guess I should edit that out because it's really just speculation. But it's not really out of the realm of possibility, seems like he isn't very liked anywhere he's coached
He's definitely been a polarizing coach. The Texan players didn't like him. Even Watt tried to fight him at practice. That's the same Watt who's won Humanitarian awards numerous times.
This is one example:
LINK
Posted on 10/27/21 at 12:06 pm to DT55Forever1
You only get two options
1-OL coach is Ok but nothing special (for college players)
2-Bama has a Jimmy and Joe problem with their OL roster (exception being #73)
1-OL coach is Ok but nothing special (for college players)
2-Bama has a Jimmy and Joe problem with their OL roster (exception being #73)
Posted on 10/27/21 at 12:33 pm to JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
quote:If #2 is the problem, then we'd better revisit how we evaluate high school Oline recruits! Hell, we got 4 and 5* Oline recruits all over the roster...AND how we train them.
2-Bama has a Jimmy and Joe problem with their OL roster (exception being #73)
Posted on 10/27/21 at 12:52 pm to JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
Bottom line: Despite our very good roster of OL talent, at mid-season our OL Coach still hasn't delivered a reliable best-five OL group. The weak links are Dalcourt (C) and Owens (RT). Maybe try a couple changes during the bye week:
LT - Neal
LG - Cohen
C- Ekiyor
RG - Brown
RT - Kight
LT - Neal
LG - Cohen
C- Ekiyor
RG - Brown
RT - Kight
This post was edited on 10/27/21 at 3:25 pm
Posted on 10/27/21 at 1:27 pm to coachcrisp
Nick will answer the quiz when this season is over
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