Really Solid Take By Josh Pate

He makes some good points, definitely from an optimist perspective. Strongly disagree that nobody would be talking about dynasty being over if the 2 point conversion failed. W or L the downward trend was still there.

Regarding the staff turnover part I partially agree. Can’t imagine how difficult the behind the scenes stuff must be to replace. On the other hand Sabans been dealing with it successfully for years and years why has it become a problem just the last few. Georgia lost its oline coach and hasn’t missed a beat. They lost their dc and most of their starters from last year and dominated a team we gave up 52 points to.

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Regarding the staff turnover part I partially agree. Can’t imagine how difficult the behind the scenes stuff must be to replace. On the other hand Sabans been dealing with it successfully for years and years why has it become a problem just the last few. Georgia lost its oline coach and hasn’t missed a beat. They lost their dc and most of their starters from last year and dominated a team we gave up 52 points to.

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Great post agree 100%

Great find OP. I hope he is right and changes are coming, but I'll believe it when I see it. As for me, I don't think Saban knows how to hire good coordinators, more specifically OCs. Its a crap shoot. So even if he replaces both coordinators, I have no faith he'll replace them with good ones. If he knew how to hire, he would have never gotten Obrien in the first place.

Lets look at his OCs:
Applewhite - Failure, fired him within 1 year. Never should have hired him.
Obrien - Failure, the guy was run off from most everywhere he had been.
Nussmeier - Failure, he was shown the door quickly.
Daboll - He was ok.
Locksley - The guy had ZERO pure OC experience when Saban hired him. The reason he succeeded was because he came through at a time we had some of the best QB talent ever seen at Bama. Calling plays was like PS3.
McElwain - He was pretty good, but he didn't wow me. He just kept it within the plan and let the process and talent do the work.
Kiffin and Sark - Were both offensive minds without question. The only reason we wound up with hem is because Saban was trying to up date the offense. Its the few pure proven OCs he has hired.

That's exactly why Sark wanted Saban to promote AJ Milwee as offensive coordinator so with that being said by Pate...Nick Saban put himself in this predicament.

AJ Milwee would of been the right guy for the job and he would of developed Bryce Young just like he did Tua & Mac!

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This is all on Saban

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How hard is it to hire people who have a proven skill set at their job and wants to work for him for lots of money. Except for 2-3 OCs, Saban seems to go after these 'tweeners' that are sort of borderline projects. Sometimes I wonder if he just hires off other people's recommendations. Most of his OCs seem to be people he thinks he can just plug then into his play book and they just call plays like its a bingo game....But as you are indicating, his history of bad hires is starting to show a track record.

I was dog cussing BOB from Tiger Stadium to the point that I had LSU fans cracking up in the stands this weekend.

That said, let’s not pretend 2022 Bama is 2020 Bama offensively.

The OL was non-functional last year and while solid this year is nothing special.

The QB is incredible, no room to make excuses there.

RB group is a disappointment. Gibbs is electric but not great at picking up the blitz or going between the tackles. Jase and Williams are just guys unless they recover more explosiveness from their injuries.

WR group is a mess. No one who wasn’t a freshman was getting separation and still with the drops. Comparing them to Smith and Waddle is like comparing Margot Robbie to Bette Midler.

My point is BOB needs to go, but our offensive decline isn’t just about coaching. I don’t think anyone but Bryce and Gibbs would start for 2020 Bama and Gibbs wouldn’t be a feature back he would be a complement guy to Najee.

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That said, let’s not pretend 2022 Bama is 2020 Bama offensively.

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People say this. It's not true. We're as talented as ever. We don't have four 1st round WR's, but, other than that historic group, we're more talented top to botttom at WR than we've been under Saban.

Do we have areas that are weaker than others? Sure. Are any of them real weaknesses? No. The coaching/play designs are bad. We could have Smitty, Ruggs, Waddle and Jeudy out there, and it would look BETTER, but it wouldn't be anything like when they were in KIffin's or Sark's offense.

When Latu (81) and Billingsley (transfered to Texas) were playing under Sarkisian scheme they were reliable beasts and people were talking about how we had two possible 1st-3rd rounders at TE.

They were always wide open catching balls. In fact everyone was always wide open catching balls.


The next season after Bill O'Brien took over Billingsley was a dud and Latu was never open (even with Jamo and Metchie) and never reliable.



It is amazing how many times it needs to be said but coaching matters. Gameplan matters. Play calling and scheming/adjustments matter.

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He was going through everything, and said changes are absolutely coming. He believes both coordinators will be gone at the end of the year.

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Blah, blah . I've been hearing this for 2 years.

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Otherwise these dudes just aren’t separating

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So much of this is the product of the route combinations being shite. That diving attempt by Brooks that he didn't bring in was a good example. The throw wasn't great, but if it had been it's probably either an INT or a hospital ball because Brooks ran his route into the same area as another receiver. He had separation, but it didn't matter because he was effectively double covered.

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and don’t do much with it when they do catch it.

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This is where talent comes into play. The only reliable and dynamic skill guy we have is Gibbs. Brooks and Holden probably run 4.65s with the wind behind them, Jojo is a JAG, Latu is awful, and Leary seems to be a bust. Prentice and Bond show some promise, but they're just freshmen and don't know what they're doing. I think getting the ball to Bond out on the perimeter needs to be a priority, but I have zero hope of seeing it happen with BooB in charge.